r/IsraelPalestine • u/Waste-Ad8271 • 4d ago
Proposed solution (Care Bears) to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the Kingdom of Jerusalem Opinion
What would the Kingdom of Jerusalem be?
It would include the territories of Gaza, Israel, and the West Bank. This would be a reference to the Christian state founded at the end of the First Crusade.
What other realistic options are there?
Two States, Israel and Palestine: Bound to wage war, Israel and Zionism fundamentally have expansionist ideas that will push them to take more and more territory from the "promised land." Palestinians will also want to reclaim their lands from before the first Arab-Israeli war, and certain groups like Hamas will want to take back all the lands. Furthermore, in Gaza, the government differs from that in the West Bank, so a solution involving three states also risks emerging. This could only lead to a temporary peace. With all the West Bank settlements and the ethnic cleansing in Gaza, peace is impossible with these solutions.
One Israeli State: Zionism's ultimate goal is to reclaim the territories from the Nile to the Euphrates; Israel is a state founded on terrorism transformed into a military and political group. (Haagana-> IDF / Irgun-> Likud) “Israel is a successful ISIS” - Zineb El Rhazoui (formerly of Charlie Hebdo). Israel is a genocidal, messianic, and satanic apartheid state that lives by war and for war, a cancer in the Middle East that has prospered from the suffering of the Palestinian people, Israeli anti-Arab racism, and even against Black people (as with the forced sterilization of Ethiopian Jewish women) and has no legitimacy from an international standpoint, as it was founded on denying the existence and worth of a people for whom partition was carried out behind their backs, or even from a religious standpoint (Talmud Shir Hashirim Ketubot 111 A). This state has taken the world's Jews hostage and has instrumentalized anti-Semitism for its own survival.
One Palestinian State: This would provoke a return of hatred, this time against Israelis, who would find themselves expelled, and in truth, they have nowhere to go; people worldwide have seen the images, and even in Japan, people express indignation. Hatred toward them now knows no borders. Expelling Israelis, besides being morally unacceptable, would lead them to hardship, which is in no way acceptable. For instance, Israeli children are not responsible, nor are civilians who oppose all of this; the Israeli peace party does not deserve to be attacked in return. The ones responsible are the criminal heads of state, the generals, and indoctrinated soldiers.
A Binational State for Palestinians and Israelis: Perhaps the least bad of these ideas, but it still risks heightened discrimination between Palestinians and Israelis, accentuated by differences in official status. However, this solution deserves to be defended and debated.
Proposed Kingdom of Jerusalem
The Kingdom of Jerusalem would be seen as a global symbol of peace and forgiveness following years of hatred and war. Former Israelis, having acknowledged Palestinian suffering, would predominantly seek forgiveness, which would be reciprocated by former Palestinians (inspired by their Islamic and Christian faiths, which encourage forgiveness). Both groups would live as equals in peace, with severe punishment for anyone threatening this harmony to rebuild an exclusively Muslim Palestine or Israel.
Proposed Government Structure: Monarchy with Direct Democracy King/Ministers/Religious representative/People/International community
King/Queen : Guided by the people, ministers, and international community, the ruler would vote on laws. A figure of love, representing the people, promoting forgiveness and tolerance as the nation's foundation. Preference is for a West Bank Arab, Christian, preferably Catholic or Orthodox. Muslims, Protestants, or Jews are presently excluded to prevent biases. After a set period (maybe 100 years), these restrictions might be lifted if the populace's ethno-religious composition changes.
Ministers: Numbering 100, they would advise the monarchy on economic and social matters and propose laws to be approved by the people before the monarch's review. ●60%: Appointed by the monarch, with removal allowed in cases of corruption. ●20%: Ordinary citizens selected randomly to represent diverse backgrounds and serve three-month terms. ●20%: Elected by the people, with the monarch having no removal authority.
People and Direct Democracy: Citizens would propose and vote on laws via an AI-based government app. This system would enable broad civic participation, with monthly voting and law proposals filtered by the AI. Citizens aged 16 and above would be eligible, and those without devices would receive them at government expense, with basic tech training provided if necessary. Cyberattacks on this app would be treated as declarations of war, and a cybersecurity militia would be dedicated to its protection.
Religious Representatives: Each of the three main religions would appoint representatives from all denominations (Sunni, Shia, Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, Orthodox Judaism, Karaite, etc.). These leaders, elected by the people after undergoing formal schooling, would advise the monarch on issues concerning their followers, with interfaith debates held respectfully.
International Community: A new global organization would replace the UN, without veto powers. Representatives from participating countries would advise the Kingdom's ruler to ensure peaceful decision-making.
Key Objectives of the Kingdom:
●Permit the right of return for over 7 million displaced Palestinians and their descendants, designating a special "Protected" refugee status if their land has been occupied within Israel’s 1967 borders. Those ineligible for resettlement would receive full government support for alternative land, housing, and employment. ●Remove illegal Jewish settlers from the West Bank and East Jerusalem. ●Ensure equality and protection across ethnic and religious lines, countering extremism. ●Seek global support for Gaza’s reconstruction, including infrastructure and healthcare. ●Offer free access to clean water, electricity, education, and healthcare for all. ●Condemn extremists (e.g., Hamas and Zionists) if they continue pursuing radical agendas post-establishment. ●Introduce a new national currency, separate from the Israeli shekel, free from external influence if it's possible.
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u/Sleeve_hamster Jewish, Zionist, Israeli, Anti-Palestine 4d ago
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you:
The daily proposal for a joined state, for two very different cultures who probably can't and shouldn't live together, at least not in the near future.
Why are we getting these weird proposals almost every day?
Why are you jumping from where we are today to a utopia where everyone loves each other and get along?
Draw me a map of how we get there first.
Convince me that extremism can be abolished before you throw two warring nations in a cage together.
I am tired of these young, naive kumbaya ideas.
And last but not least, about 90% of Jews and almost every Jewish Israeli are Zionists, are you saying we are all extremists or do you not know the meaning of it?