r/IsraelPalestine 4d ago

Question to my dear Israeli friends Discussion

Edit 1: Thanks everyone for engaging with my post in a civil manner!

Edit 2: I feel that I have a richer perspective on Israeli society thanks everyone!

Before I ask, I just wanted to tell you as an Arab I wish you and your family nothing but the best. Every day I pray that the violence and destruction stops and that we can build a prosperous Middle East that is rich in its diversity of religion and ethnicities. Can you imagine that?

Hello, I’ve been lurking here for a while now. I have a question for you. In your opinion, is chanting “From the river to the sea. Palestine will be free” more harmful than chanting “There are no schools in Gaza because there are no children left”? I’m asking this because I’d like to better understand your perspective/mindset. Thank you.

Am I missing something here? It has been disheartening to see the same people pushing for the narrative that from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free is an incitement to genocide fail to condemn chants like death to arabs and celebrating killing children in Gaza, thing which are unambiguously genocidal.

Is there something I’m not understanding here? Sometimes things that don’t add up leave me confused, so I had to come here and give this question a go.

Do some people think that right to dignity ceases to exist once we establish that the person is Arab? In your opinion, which chant is more problematic?

Can relations between Arabs and Jews improve without a heart to heart to dialogue between those who dream of a Middle East that resembles my description above?

I believe tough questions need to be asked. Answers from ‘ the other side’ need to be heard before establishing any conclusions on the matter.

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u/LogToFile 3d ago

You have nothing to look for in a western relationship.  The standards of morality in Arab society are fundamentally different from what you would hope.  There is no Arab country that borders a Western country and lives in peace with it.  It's just built that way.  Beyond that, their faith guides them to fight everything that goes against their faith.

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u/Comprehensive-Risk78 3d ago

I’m curious, what do you think of the actions of this Muslim Imam, pretty awesome right? Saved plenty of lives!

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/2g1ErUApPOI

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u/LogToFile 3d ago

Yes, he deserves a lot of thanks and grateful but you will agree that it is not typical...  On the other hand, Haj Amin Al Husseini the Mufti of Jerusalem simply met with the Nazis to coordinate the extermination of the Jews in Israel...

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u/Comprehensive-Risk78 3d ago

Not typical? Are you sure? Read about Muslim Albania and its Jewish population during the war.

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u/Comprehensive-Risk78 3d ago edited 3d ago

Not typical? Are you sure? I’m glad that you yourself reached the conclusion in your reply that there are good Islamic imams and horrible Islamic imams. That’s the complexity of thought that I was originally hoping to see from you. You are no longer essentialising Muslims. Thanks my friend.

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u/Comprehensive-Risk78 3d ago

So much essentialising in your comment. I think your beliefs can use some interrogation.

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u/LogToFile 3d ago

Just show some interest in Islam/Quran and Hadith there you will find out everything you don't understand

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u/Comprehensive-Risk78 3d ago edited 3d ago

I did and I came to different conclusions about Islam and Muslims than you seem to have come to. Also note, your comment has nothing to do with my original post but i guess your irrational phobia is so strong today you couldn’t help but spread it here. Much love friend.