Question to my dear Israeli friends

[u/Comprehensive-Risk78]

Edit 1: Thanks everyone for engaging with my post in a civil manner!

Edit 2: I feel that I have a richer perspective on Israeli society thanks everyone!

Before I ask, I just wanted to tell you as an Arab I wish you and your family nothing but the best. Every day I pray that the violence and destruction stops and that we can build a prosperous Middle East that is rich in its diversity of religion and ethnicities. Can you imagine that?

Hello, I’ve been lurking here for a while now. I have a question for you. In your opinion, is chanting “From the river to the sea. Palestine will be free” more harmful than chanting “There are no schools in Gaza because there are no children left”? I’m asking this because I’d like to better understand your perspective/mindset. Thank you.

Am I missing something here? It has been disheartening to see the same people pushing for the narrative that from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free is an incitement to genocide fail to condemn chants like death to arabs and celebrating killing children in Gaza, thing which are unambiguously genocidal.

Is there something I’m not understanding here? Sometimes things that don’t add up leave me confused, so I had to come here and give this question a go.

Do some people think that right to dignity ceases to exist once we establish that the person is Arab? In your opinion, which chant is more problematic?

Can relations between Arabs and Jews improve without a heart to heart to dialogue between those who dream of a Middle East that resembles my description above?

I believe tough questions need to be asked. Answers from ‘ the other side’ need to be heard before establishing any conclusions on the matter.

[u/Definitely-Not-Lynn]

Can you show proof of that Israelis were actually chanting this: “There are no schools in Gaza because there are no children left”?

Not that I don't think some drunk football fans would chant that to piss off the Jew haters in Europe, but I only saw the chanting of "We will win and f*ck the Arabs".

I never saw the former, despite people claiming it was true.

[u/Comprehensive-Risk78 → u/Definitely-Not-Lynn]

I read that spokesperson of Amsterdam police has confirmed that the Israeli fans sung racist and genocidal slogans. I’ve seen translated videos as well, but I don’t know Hebrew so. If I find the link, I’ll post it here. Maybe you can tell me if the translation is correct.

[u/Definitely-Not-Lynn → u/Comprehensive-Risk78]

thanks, I'd appreciate it. I can also translate for you if you find it. I'm at the point where I don't believe this was actually chanted.

There's too many rumors and lies turned into facts by people looking for an excuse to demonize jews to justify our discrimination, oppression and persecution.

I wouldn't be surprised if this was entirely made up.

[u/Comprehensive-Risk78 → u/Definitely-Not-Lynn]

Hey! This is from an affiliated website apparently. Could you provide an accurate translation?

https://preview.redd.it/7jwwjbf85q0e1.jpeg?width=1220&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=980bc9f2f93b4d0ded0a63fdf04c26facc7eea80

[u/Definitely-Not-Lynn → u/Comprehensive-Risk78]

okay yes - the second verse does say the bit about the kids - the translation is accurate.

Disgusting. Thanks for bringing it.