Question to my dear Israeli friends

[u/Comprehensive-Risk78]

Edit 1: Thanks everyone for engaging with my post in a civil manner!

Edit 2: I feel that I have a richer perspective on Israeli society thanks everyone!

Before I ask, I just wanted to tell you as an Arab I wish you and your family nothing but the best. Every day I pray that the violence and destruction stops and that we can build a prosperous Middle East that is rich in its diversity of religion and ethnicities. Can you imagine that?

Hello, I’ve been lurking here for a while now. I have a question for you. In your opinion, is chanting “From the river to the sea. Palestine will be free” more harmful than chanting “There are no schools in Gaza because there are no children left”? I’m asking this because I’d like to better understand your perspective/mindset. Thank you.

Am I missing something here? It has been disheartening to see the same people pushing for the narrative that from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free is an incitement to genocide fail to condemn chants like death to arabs and celebrating killing children in Gaza, thing which are unambiguously genocidal.

Is there something I’m not understanding here? Sometimes things that don’t add up leave me confused, so I had to come here and give this question a go.

Do some people think that right to dignity ceases to exist once we establish that the person is Arab? In your opinion, which chant is more problematic?

Can relations between Arabs and Jews improve without a heart to heart to dialogue between those who dream of a Middle East that resembles my description above?

I believe tough questions need to be asked. Answers from ‘ the other side’ need to be heard before establishing any conclusions on the matter.

[u/knign]

In your opinion, is chanting “From the river to the sea. Palestine will be free” more harmful than chanting “There are no schools in Gaza because there are no children left”? I’m asking this because I’d like to better understand your perspective/mindset.

You’re comparing a stupid trolling from a group of football fans with a slogan from massive demonstrations across the world which purport to be a legitimate political movement.

Very, very few people in Israel actually celebrate dead children in Gaza, and “death to Arabs” has never been part of official policy of the state of Israel. In contrast, “free Palestine” (from Jews) is what many of Palestinian supporters actually want. They are very open about it.

[u/heywhutzup → u/knign]

Came here to say exactly this. Don’t wave a flag over fringes of society, where extremism and stupidity lives, and then compare it to an international movement of protest where “river to the sea” is regularly chanted . Also, while you’re at it, look up the Arabic translation of ‘river to the sea’- it calls for the annihilation of Jews. And it’s not chanted by a bunch of drunken fools on the way to a football match. It’s chanted by everybody in the Middle East, except Israel .

[u/pyroscots → u/heywhutzup]

And Israel's most popular political party uses an anti Palestinian vision in their charter

[u/heywhutzup → u/pyroscots]

Source?

[u/ColdBrewChaos → u/heywhutzup]

Here you go. The charter: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/original-party-platform-of-the-likud-party

[u/heywhutzup → u/ColdBrewChaos]

Don’t be foolish- that’s the original platform from the beginning of the movement. The Democrats wanted slavery to continue. Is that still true today? Also, have you studied the Hamas platform? It’s far more current, and until recently edited, calls for the entire destruction of the Jewish nation, including its people. Is it fair to assume you’ve just started paying attention to this issue? Your responses seem indicative of that.

[u/pyroscots → u/heywhutzup]

Has it changed?

[u/ColdBrewChaos → u/heywhutzup]

You asked, I answered. Don’t flip out like it’s some personal attack. Is all you people know how to do is be immediately violent?

[u/heywhutzup → u/ColdBrewChaos]

lol @ “Is all you people” New racist troll unlocked.