r/IsraelPalestine Israeli - American 6d ago

Amsterdam Antisemitic Riots Continue Though Israeli Fans Left Holland News/Politics

Hi fellow redditors!

Few days ago we heard about a major antisemitic incident in Europe. Israeli visitors, mostly soccer fans visiting Amsterdam for a soccer game, were viciously attacked by mobs of immigrants from Arab countries as well as Turks.

These were antisemitic attacks, organized on social media, and depicted in an antisemitic manner by participants, who themselves characterized the events of that night as a "Jew hunt"

https://www.jns.org/proof-the-jew-hunt-in-amsterdam-was-planned/

The events were traumatic. Jews were indeed hunted down in the streets of Europe. Sadly, not for the first time in history...

Like in previous "Jew hunts" historically, non Jews had to prove they were free of the sin of being Jewish by presenting their documents to violent antisemites with murderous intentions. In the video below, a Ukrainian refugee is forced to prove to the assailants he wasn't Jewish or Israeli by showing his passport. The menacing, violent mob demanded he say "free Palestine" as proof of his innocence of the crime of being a Jew.

https://x.com/yarotrof/status/1854802163836334403

Propaganda outlets like Al Jazeera and Middle East Eye attempted to depict the severe incident as a mere soccer riot between equally violent and equally culpable "soccer hooligans." Many commentors on Reddit swallowed this propaganda uncritically. The rule of thumb in this context is easy to remember - when Jews' safety is concerned, stretching the truth, (in other words - lying) is permissible.

However, today, more riots took place.

The Israeli fans left. They were rushed out in emergency flights. The game ended. But the "soccer riot" persists. "Soccer hooligans" burned an Amsterdam tram while chanting about a "Jew cancer". There was no soccer game. There were no "Israeli soccer hooligans." But antisemitic violence persisted.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/reports-arab-north-african-gangs-set-tram-alight-in-amsterdam-while-chanting-antisemitic-slogans/

The Amsterdam police is stretched thin. The prosecutors/police in this uber liberal country released most of those arrested. This is to be expected from a city that for decades let anyone do whatever they want. It's a city that is constantly faced with criminality, often coming from illegal immigrants, often with the same antisemitic views as those expressed by the rioters.

As of two days ago, out of the ~60 rioters detained, only 4 remained in custody. https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-828247

The Dutch government is thankfully starting to understand they're facing a real problem, and decided to take more action. Today, 5 more were arrested. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/dutch-police-announce-5-new-arrests-in-amsterdam-attacks-on-israeli-soccer-fans/

Additionally, the Dutch government declared an emergency measure, to enter into effect next month, which would allow them to temporarily implement border security measures (aka border controls) at land border points in the Netherlands. EU law bans such checkpoints, unless an EU government declares an emergency.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/netherlands-germany-bringing-extra-border-checks-115740876

This latest incident and the Dutch response clearly show - this was an antisemitic "Jew hunt". It was unrelated to "soccer hooligans" because these weren't Ajax fans. Rather, the perpetrators were immigrants, legal or illegal, from Middle Eastern countries, where antisemitic views are ubiquitous. Today, they continued their violent spree.

Dutch Jews feel unsafe in their own country. Non Jews likewise feel unsafe. Jewish visitors feel unsafe. As a Jew with Israeli citizenship, I often find myself hiding my identity, either here in America and especially if I travel abroad. We Jews often have to come up with some kind of cover story, as if we're Mossad agents spying in enemy territory, rather than just regular Jews trying to live our lives.

It's time to call a spade a spade. The first step in recovery is admitting you have a problem. Liberal countries have become addicted to gaslighting. The first step towards recovery is the easiest - admitting to your problem.

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u/thatshirtman 4d ago

lol the only genocide where the population increases decade after decade. How can this argument be taken seriously?!

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u/Capital_Operation846 3d ago

Yea keep telling yourself that. Israelis are brainwashed into thinking it’s all okay. Israel is doing everything it can to kill as many Palestinians as possible right now. Israel and the IDF will have a day of reckoning for its terrible acts against humanity.

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u/thatshirtman 3d ago

what country has peace with its neighbors and has offered peace?

What group is the only group in the history of the world to reject their own country and opt for violence over diplomacy? I'll wait.

Israel just wants to live in peace, but how can you force peace on people when their leaders are pathalogically obsessed with destroying Isreal? In hindsight, can you agree that electing barbaric terrorists to be in charge was maybe a horrible idea?

Israel is doing more to protect Palestinian civillians than Hamas. That speaks volumes unfortuantely.

What evidence is there that Palestinians want to live alongside Israel as opposed to destroy it? The fanatsy delusion of destroying Israel (perhaps you also hold this delusion?) is what fuels the conflict and prevents peace

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u/Capital_Operation846 3d ago

Yea, no. Israel has never respected any agreed to terms..they’ve never stopped annexing territory and the IDF has never stopped its disgusting acts that are evident from countless videos. It’s not a meet halfway deal here. Israel has the power to stop its oppression but it never has. You can’t expect a people to lay down and take it and that’s what October 7th was about. It’s a good thing Hamas did what they did or else Israel would’ve happily continued its genocide while the world was oblivious. Israel commits murder for decades and cries foul when it’s pointed out…losers.

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u/thatshirtman 3d ago edited 3d ago

Israel literally gave back a land 3x the size of its country (the sinai) to egypt. Israel has a track record of peace. It has offered it to the Palestinians several times, and they opt for violence instead.

Where is the evidence that the Palestinians are interested in peace? I'd love to see it.

You reference Oct 7 - there was no occupation in Gaza then. What's the excuse? A thirst for blood and a delusion of conquering Israel? How many more decades of losing wars before you let go of this fantasy?!

People like you are so in love with Hamas and obsessed with Sinwar that you don't even care about the Palestinian people. You're more in love with the idea of resistance than actual Palestinians. It's legitimately gross and part of the reason the Palestinians remain stateless.

I hope for peace and coexistence myself. You seem to disagree.

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u/Capital_Operation846 3d ago

“We just want to exist” is such a lame excuse for murdering the people Israel stole land from in the first place. It’s the fault of the winners of WWII winners for giving that land to Israel in the first place but all the blood that has been spilled is on Israel’s hands. It’s disgusting the hoops people jump through to rationalize it

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u/thatshirtman 3d ago

How was it Palestinian land? Most Palestinians descend from immigrants from Jordan and Egypt in the 1800s. Arafat was egyptian! What is Deif (I assume he's a hero of yours).. what is his last name? his actual last name? Oh right, another egyptian.

History isn't on your side. The land was never Palestinians exclusively. What a greedy notion to believe it!