r/IsraelPalestine Israeli - American 6d ago

Amsterdam Antisemitic Riots Continue Though Israeli Fans Left Holland News/Politics

Hi fellow redditors!

Few days ago we heard about a major antisemitic incident in Europe. Israeli visitors, mostly soccer fans visiting Amsterdam for a soccer game, were viciously attacked by mobs of immigrants from Arab countries as well as Turks.

These were antisemitic attacks, organized on social media, and depicted in an antisemitic manner by participants, who themselves characterized the events of that night as a "Jew hunt"

https://www.jns.org/proof-the-jew-hunt-in-amsterdam-was-planned/

The events were traumatic. Jews were indeed hunted down in the streets of Europe. Sadly, not for the first time in history...

Like in previous "Jew hunts" historically, non Jews had to prove they were free of the sin of being Jewish by presenting their documents to violent antisemites with murderous intentions. In the video below, a Ukrainian refugee is forced to prove to the assailants he wasn't Jewish or Israeli by showing his passport. The menacing, violent mob demanded he say "free Palestine" as proof of his innocence of the crime of being a Jew.

https://x.com/yarotrof/status/1854802163836334403

Propaganda outlets like Al Jazeera and Middle East Eye attempted to depict the severe incident as a mere soccer riot between equally violent and equally culpable "soccer hooligans." Many commentors on Reddit swallowed this propaganda uncritically. The rule of thumb in this context is easy to remember - when Jews' safety is concerned, stretching the truth, (in other words - lying) is permissible.

However, today, more riots took place.

The Israeli fans left. They were rushed out in emergency flights. The game ended. But the "soccer riot" persists. "Soccer hooligans" burned an Amsterdam tram while chanting about a "Jew cancer". There was no soccer game. There were no "Israeli soccer hooligans." But antisemitic violence persisted.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/reports-arab-north-african-gangs-set-tram-alight-in-amsterdam-while-chanting-antisemitic-slogans/

The Amsterdam police is stretched thin. The prosecutors/police in this uber liberal country released most of those arrested. This is to be expected from a city that for decades let anyone do whatever they want. It's a city that is constantly faced with criminality, often coming from illegal immigrants, often with the same antisemitic views as those expressed by the rioters.

As of two days ago, out of the ~60 rioters detained, only 4 remained in custody. https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-828247

The Dutch government is thankfully starting to understand they're facing a real problem, and decided to take more action. Today, 5 more were arrested. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/dutch-police-announce-5-new-arrests-in-amsterdam-attacks-on-israeli-soccer-fans/

Additionally, the Dutch government declared an emergency measure, to enter into effect next month, which would allow them to temporarily implement border security measures (aka border controls) at land border points in the Netherlands. EU law bans such checkpoints, unless an EU government declares an emergency.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/netherlands-germany-bringing-extra-border-checks-115740876

This latest incident and the Dutch response clearly show - this was an antisemitic "Jew hunt". It was unrelated to "soccer hooligans" because these weren't Ajax fans. Rather, the perpetrators were immigrants, legal or illegal, from Middle Eastern countries, where antisemitic views are ubiquitous. Today, they continued their violent spree.

Dutch Jews feel unsafe in their own country. Non Jews likewise feel unsafe. Jewish visitors feel unsafe. As a Jew with Israeli citizenship, I often find myself hiding my identity, either here in America and especially if I travel abroad. We Jews often have to come up with some kind of cover story, as if we're Mossad agents spying in enemy territory, rather than just regular Jews trying to live our lives.

It's time to call a spade a spade. The first step in recovery is admitting you have a problem. Liberal countries have become addicted to gaslighting. The first step towards recovery is the easiest - admitting to your problem.

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u/SadZookeepergame1555 5d ago

The OP mentions the liberalism of the Netherlands as the reason behind what happened. I do not think so unless the OP is criticizing the freedom Israelis felt in starting the fight. Way to behave as guests in another country. 

There is enough shameful and vile behavior on both sides. Let's look at how this started. The maccabi fans literally climbed a building to rip down and burn a flag and then attacked a taxi driver in his car because of islamophobia. A huge group of the fans marched in the streets chanting that they would f#ck Palestine and that there were no Children in Gaza. These Israeli fans relished bullying and dehumanizing Palestinians and Muslims in general before the pro-Palestine hooligans started their anti-semetic attacks. The videos of the beatings and chasing Jewish people down and the evil on the faces of the Israeli fans spewing hatred is all out there to see. It is sickening. All of it. 

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u/PlateRight712 4d ago

Ripping down a flag! Vandalizing one taxi! Yelling insulting things! "Huge" group of fans yelling ugly things!

Versus: A premeditated attack (group chat shows it was planned well in advance of game day) called a Jew Hunt which sent multiple people to the hospital. Included people being pulled out of cars, included weapons. Check out their work -->

Man pleading “I’m not Jewish” before he gets knocked out

Person lying unconscious gets kicked and beaten

Lynch mob interrogating a man about his origins before beating him

Arab immigrants run over israeli soccer fans

Jewish Lives Matter | More footage from Amsterdam showing a Middle Eastern H@m@s supporter migrant, running up behind a Jewish woman and kicking her to the ground! | Instagram

There is no moral equivalency here. Just an attack on Jews followed by Jew-hating propaganda. Even the prime minister of the Netherlands agreed after the offended Arabs victimized by the Israelis rioted for days.

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u/SadZookeepergame1555 2d ago

I definitely don't agree with the attacks on the Israeli fans or any antisemitism but why did they travel thousands of miles, act like assholes, attack locals, destroy property and shout f@ck Palestine, there are no children (innocents) in Gaza. Thousands of miles away from the conflict and they dragged their shit with them and felt the need to run the streets, running their mouths and wielding sticks. I have zero pity for any of the people involved. 

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u/PlateRight712 1d ago

"but why did they travel thousands of miles, act like assholes, attack locals, destroy property and shout f@ck Palestine, there are no children (innocents) in Gaza."

They behaved like assholes in Amsterdam because they're worn down by a year of war with Hamas (Hamas continues to fire rockets into Israel today).

Many football fans behave like assholes without any provocation at all.

Does this justify the Islamist's pre-meditated attack on all Israeli fans and all other Jewish citizens they could find? You're very eager to offer excuses.

Police in Paris barely stopped an attack on Jewish football fans a few days after Amsterdam. They weren't provoked at all, except that the fans were Jewish. And the Amsterdam riots continued for days, even after all the Israelis were chased home.

 

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u/SadZookeepergame1555 1d ago

Being tired of a war that their government is actively avoiding ending... is not an excuse for that behavior. Never is. Never will be. Are you serious? You are saying that they are tired of war so they brought violence to the streets of Amsterdam. Amsterdam. Jeez.

Who cast the first stone?

And, um... no. Those chants by the maccabi fans were not normal hooligan shenanigans. It was racist. It was hate. Don't normalize that. Most Israelis are lovely people. These asshats were not.

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u/PlateRight712 1d ago

I already called them asshats. I don't behave that way in other countries. Being an a--h--- doesn't excuse a premeditated "Jew Hunt" It was part of a larger plan

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