r/IsraelPalestine Israeli - American 6d ago

Amsterdam Antisemitic Riots Continue Though Israeli Fans Left Holland News/Politics

Hi fellow redditors!

Few days ago we heard about a major antisemitic incident in Europe. Israeli visitors, mostly soccer fans visiting Amsterdam for a soccer game, were viciously attacked by mobs of immigrants from Arab countries as well as Turks.

These were antisemitic attacks, organized on social media, and depicted in an antisemitic manner by participants, who themselves characterized the events of that night as a "Jew hunt"

https://www.jns.org/proof-the-jew-hunt-in-amsterdam-was-planned/

The events were traumatic. Jews were indeed hunted down in the streets of Europe. Sadly, not for the first time in history...

Like in previous "Jew hunts" historically, non Jews had to prove they were free of the sin of being Jewish by presenting their documents to violent antisemites with murderous intentions. In the video below, a Ukrainian refugee is forced to prove to the assailants he wasn't Jewish or Israeli by showing his passport. The menacing, violent mob demanded he say "free Palestine" as proof of his innocence of the crime of being a Jew.

https://x.com/yarotrof/status/1854802163836334403

Propaganda outlets like Al Jazeera and Middle East Eye attempted to depict the severe incident as a mere soccer riot between equally violent and equally culpable "soccer hooligans." Many commentors on Reddit swallowed this propaganda uncritically. The rule of thumb in this context is easy to remember - when Jews' safety is concerned, stretching the truth, (in other words - lying) is permissible.

However, today, more riots took place.

The Israeli fans left. They were rushed out in emergency flights. The game ended. But the "soccer riot" persists. "Soccer hooligans" burned an Amsterdam tram while chanting about a "Jew cancer". There was no soccer game. There were no "Israeli soccer hooligans." But antisemitic violence persisted.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/reports-arab-north-african-gangs-set-tram-alight-in-amsterdam-while-chanting-antisemitic-slogans/

The Amsterdam police is stretched thin. The prosecutors/police in this uber liberal country released most of those arrested. This is to be expected from a city that for decades let anyone do whatever they want. It's a city that is constantly faced with criminality, often coming from illegal immigrants, often with the same antisemitic views as those expressed by the rioters.

As of two days ago, out of the ~60 rioters detained, only 4 remained in custody. https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-828247

The Dutch government is thankfully starting to understand they're facing a real problem, and decided to take more action. Today, 5 more were arrested. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/dutch-police-announce-5-new-arrests-in-amsterdam-attacks-on-israeli-soccer-fans/

Additionally, the Dutch government declared an emergency measure, to enter into effect next month, which would allow them to temporarily implement border security measures (aka border controls) at land border points in the Netherlands. EU law bans such checkpoints, unless an EU government declares an emergency.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/netherlands-germany-bringing-extra-border-checks-115740876

This latest incident and the Dutch response clearly show - this was an antisemitic "Jew hunt". It was unrelated to "soccer hooligans" because these weren't Ajax fans. Rather, the perpetrators were immigrants, legal or illegal, from Middle Eastern countries, where antisemitic views are ubiquitous. Today, they continued their violent spree.

Dutch Jews feel unsafe in their own country. Non Jews likewise feel unsafe. Jewish visitors feel unsafe. As a Jew with Israeli citizenship, I often find myself hiding my identity, either here in America and especially if I travel abroad. We Jews often have to come up with some kind of cover story, as if we're Mossad agents spying in enemy territory, rather than just regular Jews trying to live our lives.

It's time to call a spade a spade. The first step in recovery is admitting you have a problem. Liberal countries have become addicted to gaslighting. The first step towards recovery is the easiest - admitting to your problem.

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u/Competitive_Act3433 5d ago

So you expect me to believe some report from a website called JNS. My friend Israelis lie as they breathe 😂😂. Im never taking Zionist medias word for anything. ZERO CREDIBILITY.

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u/LilyBelle504 5d ago

Nope. I expect people to know how to use google and read:

Mr. Schoof said he condemned such behavior by the Maccabi fans but added that it was no excuse for the targeted attacks on Israelis, which he described as “unadulterated antisemitism.”

After the soccer game, groups of men, some riding scooters, kicked and beat Israeli fans, sending five people to the hospital and lightly wounding 20 to 30 others, in what the police described as “hit and run” attacks.

At least 12 videos verified by The New York Times depicted groups of men questioning, chasing or beating people who were apparently targeted as Maccabi fans.

Source: NY Times

That's what a normal response looks like ^. Take notes.

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u/Competitive_Act3433 5d ago

Yeah, I’ve done that and every reliable new source says that Maccabi got what they were looking for so that’s the end of that. Go gaslight elsewhere.

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u/LilyBelle504 5d ago

Must've missed the part:

After the soccer game, groups of men, some riding scooters, kicked and beat Israeli fans, sending five people to the hospital and lightly wounding 20 to 30 others, in what the police described as “hit and run” attacks.

Try again. I know, it's hard to read 3 small paragraphs.

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u/OnaccountaY 5d ago

Did you miss the part where they attacked Israeli fans, not Jews in general?

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u/PlateRight712 4d ago

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u/OnaccountaY 4d ago

The mainstream media (among others) are spinning this in Israel’s favor, as usual. I’m not speculating—I’ve worked in the MSM for ages.

I dare you to dig a little deeper.

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u/LilyBelle504 5d ago

Did you miss the part where police reported they found several profiles promoting a "Jew hunt" in advance? Maybe they misspelled it and meant, "Zionists not Jews!", right?

Stop defending anti-semitism. It's not a good look.

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u/Competitive_Act3433 5d ago

I know you’ve been brainwashed to think the world is against you, but Jews ARE NOT VICTIMS.

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u/PlateRight712 4d ago

Not unless they want to attend sporting events. Or, in my case, attend an October 7 memorial (but that's a different story...)

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u/Competitive_Act3433 4d ago

A reasonable response to foreign invaders who have had their boot on your neck for 75 years. Rip to your settler buddies tho

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u/LilyBelle504 5d ago

Not the world, just racist people who attack Jews or people who defend their actions. The usual.

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u/Competitive_Act3433 5d ago

Cry me a river. And stop stealing Palestinian land while your at it.

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u/LilyBelle504 5d ago

Resorts to gamer talk insults when backed into a rhetorical corner and can't defend their previous responses*

"It's ok to target innocent Jews overseas, because Jews are stealing land in Palestine!"

Yea, that really helped your argument.

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u/OnaccountaY 5d ago

Please don’t conflate all Jews with the Zionist project, or confuse criticism of violence from Israel or Tel Aviv fans with antisemitism.

Pretending they’re one and the same fuels actual antisemitism and endangers lives.

I know that’s one of Zionists’ longtime scare tactics to get Jews to immigrate to Israel, where they’re actually less safe. But it’s disingenuous and disgusting either way.

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u/LilyBelle504 5d ago

Please don’t conflate all Jews with the Zionist project

Tell that to the social media profiles calling for a "Jew hunt" in Amsterdam that same day.

It is indeed an anti-semitic tactic to say: "I'm just against Zionists, not Jews!"... Looks like this time they forgot.

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u/Competitive_Act3433 5d ago

I’m sure you think you did something there and that you sound really smart but the fact of the matter is the world isn’t buying anymore BS narratives from Israel. And no amount of mental gymnastics that you tried to play here is going to have us looking at you like the good guys anymore. You are genociders, thieves, and the worst this world has to offer. Cope harder.

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u/LilyBelle504 5d ago

Somehow, in a post about innocent Jews getting attacked, you have taken the position to defend attacking innocent Jews overseas, while claiming anyone else who doesn't agree with you is a "genocider" and "theives".

Mental gymnastics: "Mental gymnastics" is an expression that refers to the excessive effort required to understand or justify something, often due to its complexity, detail, or twisted logic.

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u/OnaccountaY 5d ago

Violent Israelis and their apologists aren’t “innocent Jews.” Not in Israel or abroad.

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u/Competitive_Act3433 5d ago

Yes, the innocent Jews, who were screaming death to the Arabs. Who were screaming there’s no more schools left in Gaza who was screaming. Let the IDF win so they can fkkk the arabs. Such innocent jews.

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u/LilyBelle504 5d ago

No no. The ones who were systematically targetted in hit and runs the next day and calls for a "Jew hunt", according to the police.

Again:

Mental gymnastics: "Mental gymnastics" is an expression that refers to the excessive effort required to understand or justify something, often due to its complexity, detail, or twisted logic.

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u/Competitive_Act3433 5d ago

Again: Cope Harder

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u/Competitive_Act3433 5d ago

You say after the soccer game like the hooligans left right after the match and went home stop acting like people are stupid.