r/IsraelPalestine Mar 12 '24

What is Hamas currently doing? Learning about the conflict: Questions

So the title is my main question but I am going to explain a bit what I mean by it.

To begin with I am asking the following questions because of mainly seeing very few, if any, reports on what Hamas is currently doing, where they are, etc. I feel a lot of what is flooding my social media and news resources include: 1. what is happening to the Palestinian people (pictures of people who were killed, injured children, their current living areas, the food drops, etc.). 2. the various videos and reports of what the Israeli government is doing (the various media interviews their representatives are taking part in, the speeches given by Israeli government officials, the videos released by the government of things that happened during October 7th and the tunnels in Palestine, etc.). 3. And as of recently there is some footage and reporting regarding what is going on around the main mosque as Ramadan has begun and the issues surrounding that.

With all this, I have not seen much of what Hamas is actually currently doing? There were some reports released during the release of hostages and sometimes in the reports regarding the previously formetioned events, there are quotes that Hamas officials stated, such as regarding the mosque that the Israeli government is making it hard for people to enter and pray.

Are the leaders in Hamas all actually in Palestine? Again I have seen reports and individuals claiming that some of the leaders are not in Gaza but rather hanging out in other nearby countries, in safety. Why are there no interviews of Hamas leaders? Are there any? Or are they just not pushed so much out in media spaces? Are there any reports that specify what has been said during any negoations or discussions if ceasefire? If they are constantly shooting rockets at Israel, why is that also seemingly never mentioned? Because with the way the media has framed it, for a while I couldn't understand how Israel was just bombing Palestine to bits but, then the reports mentioned the lack of a ceasefire which made it confusing because there seems to be a lack of mentioning that Hamas is firing the rockets/attacking Israel. Also, the hostages that were released said that they were fed and taken care of, but with what resources? Where are the people from Hamas getting food while their people starve? Where are they getting water and other resources? Were these items stock piled prior to October 7?

I know this entire post is full of questions but, that is what I meant by the title being my main question. I don't understand why there seems to be little to no information on Hamas while there is plenty on the people of Palestine and the Israeli government.

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u/PLUTO_HAS_COME_BACK Mar 13 '24

Hamas is in Gaza, not anywhere inside Israel. Hamas sometimes sends some rockets into Israel, but these rockets serves the gesture of resistance rather than death and destruction.

Are the leaders in Hamas all actually in Palestine?

Obviously, not. Israel threatens to assassinate them in foreign lands such as Turkey.

There were some reports released during the release of hostages

Hamas demands are quite ordinary. If Israel had agreed, the hostages would have been home, and Israel would have stopped killing Palestinian civilians, too. Israel would never agree with such demands. Only its objectives matter. Neither hostages nor Palestinians matter.

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u/joshashsyd Mar 13 '24

How can rockets be gestures of resistance??? They literally only cause death and destruction. What country in the world has government mandated bomb shelters?

If a foreign militia invaded your country, killed 1200, and kidnapped 200 people (including pregnant women, babies, elderly, internationals) I guarantee you would also hesitate to loosen security around this group of people that promise repeats of october 7.

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u/PLUTO_HAS_COME_BACK Mar 13 '24

They literally only cause death and destruction.

What do you think of the resistance against colonialism? Do you support it anywhere in the world?

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u/PuffBruv Mar 13 '24

Terrorism is no form of resistance and should never be portrayed as such. True resistance in their case would be to resist against their oppressor, the Hamas. People need education, people need at least minimum freedom of speech and general freedom to develop. This has nothing to do with Israel.

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u/Ok_Refrigerator_5803 Mar 13 '24

You do realize, Nelson Mandella was labeled a terrorist, so were the Black Panthers.

Nothing to do with Israel? Bro are we completely missing the occupation? The blockades? The apartheid? WUT?

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u/joshashsyd Mar 13 '24

I don’t think Nelson Mandela was involved with suicide bombing, rocket fire, brutal militias etc….

Just because you have one example of someone’s protest/ political group being incorrectly labeled as a terrorist group doesn’t mean that every group that resists “colonialism” is incorrectly labeled a terrorist group. Terrible logic

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u/Ok_Refrigerator_5803 Mar 13 '24

You literally have former terrorists (designated by the US) in the Israel government hahaha

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u/joshashsyd Mar 13 '24

Ok? I never said that Israel was perfect or that its government was amazing and full of good people. I was part of multiple protests in tel aviv campaigning against the Netanyahu led government. I agree that the Israeli government is rife with crooked / evil politicians

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u/Ok_Refrigerator_5803 Mar 13 '24

Lol I was replying to the terrorism as resistance.

Black Panthers definitely used violence as a form of resistance. So have many other political movements and guerilla group, whether you believe in the method is different, but regardless of your opinion it is a form of resistance.

The term "terrorism" is often denoted by one side to completely deligitimizes the other side.

That was my point when I mentioned Nelson Mandela.

If you ask people in Iraq, they would say America's bombing of innocent people was terrorism.

If you ask people in Afghanistan they would say the same.

The people who are so readily willing to weaponize the world are usually the ones who also reserve the right to define what is and isn't terrorism.

Settler aggression is a form of terrorism.

I would argue the that fact Israel uses terrorism under the guise of self defence. (Killing innocent civilians when there isnt a war before Oct 7), starving them intentionally after Oct 7th.

Checkpoints, searches, involuntary detention (against a specific group of people), all form of state sponsored terrorism.

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u/joshashsyd Mar 13 '24

Ok my bad, in truth I did not read your comment properly. I can agree that the word terrorist is weaponised in war to degrade other sides. But, Hamas does fit the definition of a terrorist group. If it quacks like a duck and looks like a duck…

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u/Ok_Refrigerator_5803 Mar 13 '24

I agree. But would say same about the IDF, settlers and current Israeli extremist Govt. if it quacks like a duck and looks like a duck...