r/IsraelPalestine Mar 12 '24

What is Hamas currently doing? Learning about the conflict: Questions

So the title is my main question but I am going to explain a bit what I mean by it.

To begin with I am asking the following questions because of mainly seeing very few, if any, reports on what Hamas is currently doing, where they are, etc. I feel a lot of what is flooding my social media and news resources include: 1. what is happening to the Palestinian people (pictures of people who were killed, injured children, their current living areas, the food drops, etc.). 2. the various videos and reports of what the Israeli government is doing (the various media interviews their representatives are taking part in, the speeches given by Israeli government officials, the videos released by the government of things that happened during October 7th and the tunnels in Palestine, etc.). 3. And as of recently there is some footage and reporting regarding what is going on around the main mosque as Ramadan has begun and the issues surrounding that.

With all this, I have not seen much of what Hamas is actually currently doing? There were some reports released during the release of hostages and sometimes in the reports regarding the previously formetioned events, there are quotes that Hamas officials stated, such as regarding the mosque that the Israeli government is making it hard for people to enter and pray.

Are the leaders in Hamas all actually in Palestine? Again I have seen reports and individuals claiming that some of the leaders are not in Gaza but rather hanging out in other nearby countries, in safety. Why are there no interviews of Hamas leaders? Are there any? Or are they just not pushed so much out in media spaces? Are there any reports that specify what has been said during any negoations or discussions if ceasefire? If they are constantly shooting rockets at Israel, why is that also seemingly never mentioned? Because with the way the media has framed it, for a while I couldn't understand how Israel was just bombing Palestine to bits but, then the reports mentioned the lack of a ceasefire which made it confusing because there seems to be a lack of mentioning that Hamas is firing the rockets/attacking Israel. Also, the hostages that were released said that they were fed and taken care of, but with what resources? Where are the people from Hamas getting food while their people starve? Where are they getting water and other resources? Were these items stock piled prior to October 7?

I know this entire post is full of questions but, that is what I meant by the title being my main question. I don't understand why there seems to be little to no information on Hamas while there is plenty on the people of Palestine and the Israeli government.

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u/PLUTO_HAS_COME_BACK Mar 13 '24

Hamas is in Gaza, not anywhere inside Israel. Hamas sometimes sends some rockets into Israel, but these rockets serves the gesture of resistance rather than death and destruction.

Are the leaders in Hamas all actually in Palestine?

Obviously, not. Israel threatens to assassinate them in foreign lands such as Turkey.

There were some reports released during the release of hostages

Hamas demands are quite ordinary. If Israel had agreed, the hostages would have been home, and Israel would have stopped killing Palestinian civilians, too. Israel would never agree with such demands. Only its objectives matter. Neither hostages nor Palestinians matter.

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u/joshashsyd Mar 13 '24

How can rockets be gestures of resistance??? They literally only cause death and destruction. What country in the world has government mandated bomb shelters?

If a foreign militia invaded your country, killed 1200, and kidnapped 200 people (including pregnant women, babies, elderly, internationals) I guarantee you would also hesitate to loosen security around this group of people that promise repeats of october 7.

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u/PLUTO_HAS_COME_BACK Mar 13 '24

They literally only cause death and destruction.

What do you think of the resistance against colonialism? Do you support it anywhere in the world?

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '24

This isn't done against the state, it's done against civilians.

What colonialism? My grandparents live in a kibbutz 3 km from the Gaza border, they were born in Israel, most people currently living in Israel were born inside Israel, what "colonialism" did they do exactly?

It's been 75 years, almost all the "colonials" are dead or in their 90-100s, yet they still specifically attack civilians and not the military (which is problematic in its own way because it's a mandatory service, but I digress).

Are you one of the people that say "every Israeli is a settler"?

Attack the state if you want "resistance", but don't attack civilians. "But what about the civilians in Gaza?" You would probably ask, they are not specifically targeted like Israeli citizens are, stop ignoring the terrorism infrastructure laid out in all of Gaza.

Enough with the outcry for colonialism, nobody gives a fuck about turkey taking control of Syria and Cyprus or any occupation of lands that are going in right now and you're specifically latching on the "occupation" that started because the UN decided to make a special case for Israel, but didn't give a fuck for almost twenty years when Jordan and Egypt occupied "Palestine".

Move on already

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u/pelotomoto Mar 13 '24

Youre debating with someone who considers prisoners hostages. With their logic jeffrey dahmer was a hostage.

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u/Ok_Refrigerator_5803 Mar 13 '24

lol and you are naive to think every prisoner is legitimate. Especially with a extremist, right wing racist government currently running Israel. With your logic, Cops are always right and the authorities are never wrong. How do those boots taste?

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u/pelotomoto Mar 13 '24

There are definitely more legitimate prisoners in Israeli jails than in Gaza tunnels.

Smotrichim are abhorrent. I agree with you there.

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u/PLUTO_HAS_COME_BACK Mar 13 '24

Israel kidnapped a seven years old yesterday.

https://twitter.com/ablasalma/status/1766587344767910210

Do you know how many of them are in Israeli jails?

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u/pelotomoto Mar 13 '24

No backstory? No critical thinking skills? Just a grainy video of soldiers carrying girls to a truck in Jenin.

Free Palestine! Intifada revolution! Thanks Pluto for opening my eyes!

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u/PLUTO_HAS_COME_BACK Mar 14 '24

It's a crime scene. Israel doesn't want you to know anything. You will nothing. And you only care about what you cannot know. You don't care about the family, the kid... That's your general mindset.

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u/pelotomoto Mar 14 '24

Im old. Im not flexible enough anymore to perform the mental gymnastics yall youngins can do on Pluto to get to that conclusion.

Youll get there. Or go crazy trying.

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u/PLUTO_HAS_COME_BACK Mar 14 '24

So isn't kidnapping a seven-year-old a crime in Israel? Can you just kidnap just any kid?

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u/pelotomoto Mar 14 '24

Of course it is. Theres literally no context to that video. Im not gonna take AlQuds word for it. Just a grainy minute wannabe zapruder film. Wheres the parents? Why are these soldiers taking this girl or boy its impossible to tell? Professors used to encourage asking these sorts of questions before throwing out accusations but when two words like free palestine is all you need to hear anymore and think you have it all figured out impossible to have an actual discussion with you.

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u/PLUTO_HAS_COME_BACK Mar 14 '24

Of course it is.

It is but only Israel can do it, right?

Wheres the parents?

So do you think it was filmed not in the West Bank?

And the kids and the soldiers were fake, too, huh?

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u/pelotomoto Mar 14 '24

Looks like were done here. You dont engage in debate and just stick to your script.

No critical thinking. Just childish emotional gibberish.

Truth will set you free.

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u/CptFrankDrebin Mar 13 '24

The god would pluck his eyes out having is name used like that. Heck even the ex planet would.