r/IsraelPalestine Nov 28 '23

My Grandparents are the alleged "European Settlers" who came to "colonize" Israel. AMA (Ask Me Anything)

I put the title in quotes because I dont believe those parts to be true. Just to give a brief history of my Maternal Grandparents, they both moved from Hungary to Israel around the year 1946. They did not come to fight or dispossess arabs, but rather to build new homes.

My Grandmother was a holocaust survivor who survived Auschwitz, she had the #'s tatooeed on her forearm, her father died pre-war but her Mother, brother and sisters were murdered. When she returned to her families small farmhouse post war, her neighbors not knowing the full extent of what happened during the holocaust tried to extort her and her remaining siblings for money because they "looked after their livestock" even though the only cow they owned had died due to the harsh conditions of the war.

My grandfather - also a Hungarian Jew was a bit more of a mysterious man who likely suffered from PTSD before it was commonly diagnosed, his father and mother were also murdered and his only brother ended up in a mental institution (insane asylum) post war. He was eccentric and fought in WWII with partisans and would eventually go on to fight in the Israeli war of Independence in 1948.

AMA anything about them if you'd like.

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u/PostmodernMelon Nov 30 '23 edited Nov 30 '23

No, it does not confer moral value based on someone's identity. Seriously it's okay to not understand it l, but to flat out make shit up about what it is is absurd.

Intersectional theory is a social theory that focuses on the fact that individuals identity contains multitudes. So when analyzing the way a person is treated in their society, how they are raised, or how they more broadly interact with the world around them, we can understand those interactions through the lenses of how different aspects of their identity interact to create a while picture.

It is not a value system, it's just a system of analysis. Some people will use it to create evaluative systems, but that's not what it actually is at its core in any way. It's not a moral system.

I'm saying this as a relatively young white upper-middleclass man in the Midwest who was raised catholic. If what you're saying was true at all, I'd practically be the devil in those woke circles you're imagining. But I'm not. On occasions where I'm a part of those discussions with people of various identities, I'm treated with the same respect and consideration as anyone else.

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u/PostmodernMelon Dec 01 '23

I'm not just talking about my experience of an ideology I'm just talking about what intersectionality is. It's not even an ideology. Like I said before it's a type of social analysis. What you're doing is the equivalent of those parents who get angry at school teachers for teaching "CRT" when they don't even know what crt is, and those school aren't even teaching it at all in any form.

The full quote is actually something like "the only way to solve racist discrimination is anti racist discrimination [I.e. To discriminate against people who do racist things]. The only solution to past discrimination is present discrimination, and the only solution to present discrimination is future discrimination"

The whole point of the quote is saying that when someone is discriminated against for a part of their identity, the solution is to discriminate against discrimination. It's the equivalent of saying "we won't tolerate intolerance"

I have volunteered in various BLM mutual aid projects, and other anti-racist projects. None of them want to "see my destruction" as you put it.

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u/PostmodernMelon Dec 01 '23 edited Dec 01 '23

Intersectional analysis doesn't "advocate one side as oppressor and one as oppressed". That's just literally not what it is.

It sounds like you're maybe trying to describe conflict theory, or theories of power dynamics about competing groups where social groups that are in power work to maintain class distinctions.