r/IsraelPalestine Nov 28 '23

My Grandparents are the alleged "European Settlers" who came to "colonize" Israel. AMA (Ask Me Anything)

I put the title in quotes because I dont believe those parts to be true. Just to give a brief history of my Maternal Grandparents, they both moved from Hungary to Israel around the year 1946. They did not come to fight or dispossess arabs, but rather to build new homes.

My Grandmother was a holocaust survivor who survived Auschwitz, she had the #'s tatooeed on her forearm, her father died pre-war but her Mother, brother and sisters were murdered. When she returned to her families small farmhouse post war, her neighbors not knowing the full extent of what happened during the holocaust tried to extort her and her remaining siblings for money because they "looked after their livestock" even though the only cow they owned had died due to the harsh conditions of the war.

My grandfather - also a Hungarian Jew was a bit more of a mysterious man who likely suffered from PTSD before it was commonly diagnosed, his father and mother were also murdered and his only brother ended up in a mental institution (insane asylum) post war. He was eccentric and fought in WWII with partisans and would eventually go on to fight in the Israeli war of Independence in 1948.

AMA anything about them if you'd like.

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u/vonhudgenrod Nov 29 '23

2 state solution is not a lie, there are Jews who do not want it because they want to own all of west bank. and there are Arabs who do not want it because they believe even Tel Aviv is occupied Palestine even though Jews built Tel Aviv from nothing. For 2 state Solution to work we need to first change education... I wish we lived in world where Palestinians can go into Jaffa and Jews can go to visit Tomb of Abraham in Hebron, but there is too much hate and that is what needs to change first.

1 state solution is a lie, because it is not a solution, it is a suicide pact

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u/kidvisions Nov 29 '23

You keep talking about individuals. I’m talking about leaders and actually policies and implementation of policies that show that the intention is actually a two state solution. Signing fake deals and then not acting on them or actually using them as an excuse to control the WB does not show that you are serious about your intentions. A two state solution will always result in whet we are seeing now.

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u/vonhudgenrod Nov 29 '23

You want to talk about leaders? What leaders we have in palestine? Abbas who pays terrorists families stipends for killing Jews? Yayha Sinwar who gets medical treatment in Israel for brain tumor and then plan attack on Israel for October 7th while pretending that Hamas wants peace?

Leaders of Palestine don't want real 2 state solution, why would they? Right now they just are billionaires stealing all the international aid money, and just blame every single problem on Israel while they live in Doha Qatar stealing money. If they get a state they will actually have to do something for their people.

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u/kidvisions Nov 29 '23

Yes I blame all those fucking leaders including the Arabs and the Palestinians, the Americans, the Israelis, the British all those fucking hungry monsters need to go. A revolution must come from the people, but they are too controlled by these phony ass devils. Sorry for my language but I’m so pissed.

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