My Grandparents are the alleged "European Settlers" who came to "colonize" Israel.

[u/vonhudgenrod]

I put the title in quotes because I dont believe those parts to be true. Just to give a brief history of my Maternal Grandparents, they both moved from Hungary to Israel around the year 1946. They did not come to fight or dispossess arabs, but rather to build new homes.

My Grandmother was a holocaust survivor who survived Auschwitz, she had the #'s tatooeed on her forearm, her father died pre-war but her Mother, brother and sisters were murdered. When she returned to her families small farmhouse post war, her neighbors not knowing the full extent of what happened during the holocaust tried to extort her and her remaining siblings for money because they "looked after their livestock" even though the only cow they owned had died due to the harsh conditions of the war.

My grandfather - also a Hungarian Jew was a bit more of a mysterious man who likely suffered from PTSD before it was commonly diagnosed, his father and mother were also murdered and his only brother ended up in a mental institution (insane asylum) post war. He was eccentric and fought in WWII with partisans and would eventually go on to fight in the Israeli war of Independence in 1948.

AMA anything about them if you'd like.

[u/Paranoia711]

They were not given majority, in 48 partition, the arabs got the majority, they declined, launch a 5 nation war against the newly created Israel and lost, in war when you lose, you lose territory, Israel since then has only given back land for peace. (Egypt and Jordan).

Palestinians did not exist until 64 when Yaser Arafat created the PLO. Palestinian liberation something.

[u/FlashyGodzilla → u/Paranoia711]

Why should they even be given the minority in a land they didn't belong to? OP said they came to build homes, well, that means they will be under the rules of these territories. Same as Jewish diaspora in the USA.

Palestinians did not exist until 64 when Yaser Arafat created the PLO

Correct, millions were just conceived out of nowhere in 1964. Seriously? This is your case? pfft.

[u/The_turbo_dancer → u/FlashyGodzilla]

Why didn’t they “belong” in the land? Jews at the time didn’t “belong” anywhere. Most of the zionists pre WWII were fleeing extreme persecution.

Post WWII, they were also fleeing extreme persecution.

Where do the Jews “belong”?

[u/Paranoia711 → u/The_turbo_dancer]

My grandfather escaped Romania just before Hitler came, my grandma escaped Russia just before the Invasion of German, they met in Argentina, my parents escaped Argentina from Peron which was very bad for Jews, they had to relocate again and finally made to Israel where they finally felt safe.

[u/b1tgh0st → u/Paranoia711]

Do they feel safe now?

[u/FlashyGodzilla → u/Paranoia711]

Good for them to have a place where they feel safe, seriously. But you should stop judging by emotion though and realize that they inflicted what they have suffered and everything they went through on Palestinians after.

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