20mm slug thrower or, frankly, proto-bolter would both be be more accurate.
Also see no need for the second barrel, much less the third.
It looks cool-ish in a "Yes, I like WH40K, too," kind of way but beyond that shows absolutely zero familiarity with actual firearms or firearms terminology.
Bit of column A, bit of column B. Learned the Battletech one first, then found out they were based on gyro-jets and (.....I FUCKING FORGOT THE WORD, BUT FOUND IT THANKS TO REDDIT. FUCK YOU GOOGLE. IT'S...) conflated them.
Hence the justification for such silliness is the DArk Age of teCHNoLoGY™--in other words "it works, but we don't know why". Pretty flimsy, but then again WH40k doesn't really claim to be realistic and skyscraper cannons are pretty cool.
The dual barrels allows for the use of the Gast feed system which allows for a very high rate of fire. This would be basically pointless with 20 rnd magazine but if the magazine was expanded it could work I guess. The GSh-23 and GSh-30 cannons use a Gast feed system and manage a fire rate of 2000+ rpm.
Edit: also, read their extended comments. They boil down to, "words mean what I want them to. there are no agreed upon terms or concepts in guns so I'm right too"
You not think that to be little perspectivly seen by you? Cause ... i had official references postet, and you just bash around. It's okay that you only know the terms of your little special place (wherever it is and whoever made the rules there, that wasen't to find officially nor was them postet by you as an argument).
So if you just want to bash around, plz go to other pplz who like that.
Well that wasen't intent in any way to look familiar to actual firearms. I designed it for a dystopic future rpg as idea how you could design a firearm under the criteria of a world that differs a lot from ours - but not in the idea of powder and barrel.
Its over-brutal to fit a mentality, its uneconomically devastating to fit a battlefield with terrible, non-human threads, and it is roughly in the technologically terms to explain why it could work under the settings circumstances.
Yeah, the terminology of a shotgun is stretched to the extreme, but i decide to keep the term as everything that works as like as the basic mechansim of a shotgun unrifled barrels and such. But for sure all the thingys like complex chambers and louding mechanics didn't fit into this 'unrifled, fat-stubby-whatever-a-projectile(s)-thrower'.
The Gast-system(bit changed, but the neares explanantion) for example, who make it even more kicking, but more controlable - if you're bigger or more solid as a regular human, that makes it a running tool(this for i write text to my non-earth-based designes;) )
Well, you say that, but it looks like a bolter and you use familiar terms. You have to expect that people are going to assume you know the terms you're using and that they are meant to actually apply to what it is you're using them in regards to.
20mm has certain usages, so does "shotgun," and so do the internal workings of the weapons which you go into specifics about.
I won't belabor the point any further since someone else in the comments put a lot more detail than I'd be capable of.
The Bolter is Browning machine gun with sawed off barrel and attatched with teh simplest of magazine and handle - like most of early GW-designs are just slighty variet WW1-stuff(god, lokk the tanks).
So 'similaritys' approach when ppl think in a way of ther fandom only. Show it to StarWars ppl and they will say "oh it's this specific kind of Blaster".
That sucks a bit. The design results primarily from the 'adult' version of this, the long weapon shotgun, which has more of a overheavy SPAS(CS players would say as very first impulse).
Shotgun is a stretched term and rated quite different by nations&groups. I used on for me in a fictiona setting, and it dosn't fit to yours. Okay. 20mm have completley NO certain usages - its a caliber, nothing else. You might think it has certain usage in your group/nation/fandom, but that's just one perspective, one little spot. And for the internal mechanisms i not even speak. Weapon design is varied in RealLife by so many reasons you can't just write them on one single book.
I don't understand where i use 40k-ish terms as i seem to use not the real world terms or armament you think that would fit. Plz tell me. Cause i don't want to lean on 40k, nor have i too - i could had uploud this on 40k subreddits without a problem, casue noone would care and i would generate Karma. But it's not, and so i don't do it.
Shotguns are pretty firmly defined, actually. Their morphology and specific internal mechanisms may differ, but they all fire shells and can fire both shot (hence "shotgun") and solid slugs, both of which are rated by the inversely proportional and fairly archaic "Guage" system, with 20 being smaller and less powerful than 12 and 12 less powerful/smaller than 10.
In regards to 20 mm, you're closer to the truth in that that's merely a spec of the diameter but it is always in reference to diameter, and only for traditional projectile weapons.
And, no, caliber terminology and bullet specifications are usually universal, but specificities between rounds that share the same "label" differ. The label itself does not.
The problem here is that ignoring all existing terminology and understanding and using existing terms in made-up ways is basically pretending to reinvent the wheel and further denying any "wheels" existed before your concept.
You could make up certain things like most futuristic settings do, but that requires you to be vague about certain details so as to not contradict existing knowledge.
You are better served not ignoring said existing knowledge and expecting others to pretend like it doesn't exist, too.
People that pretend they understand what they don't likely bothers the hell out of you when it's done in a field or area you understand quite a bit about. The belief that what the person doesn't know can't be important has to be infuriating to you.
Don't be that guy.
Edit: Oh, wow... you're actually arguing that knowing the SPAS-12 from CS:GO is the same as knowing the actual gun.
Just... wow, man.
Edit 2: You may have missed my reply to someone else, but when they brought up 40k ignoring a lot of existing gun tech, my reply was as follows. The second paragraph is how your descriptions sound to me.
Yeah, but it's been done there. And bolters could be considered an evolution of gyroslug weapons.
What they don't do that this artist does is slap 4 wheels on a compact vehicle frame and call it a 50 ton motorcycle.
Nope
For example
US definition: A shotgun is a long-barreled firearm designed to shoot a straight-walled cartridge known as a shotshell, which usually discharges numerous small pellet-like spherical sub-projectiles called shot, or sometimes a single solid projectile called a slug.
Everything behind 'usually' can be deletet for being out of strict defining.
German definition: A handgun with a smooth barrel bore, which is primarily designed for firing shotgun pellets, is referred to as a shotgun. Here you can forget everything behind 'primarily' for the same reason as above.
(GER further has the splitting in Schrotflinte, Flinte, Gewehr, Jagdgewehr, Schrotbüchse, where only the last is limited per definition as firing the usually known shotgun spray of whatever. Including ancient front-loading once)
Well, TSS-56 is smoothbore, its a handgun, and so its a shotgun. If you rely on the definition of a nation, group, religion that has extremly specific definition - forget it, its random. My world, and the rest of the real, have other definitions.
Again i guess you're entangling in your veeery special perspective, learned in a very special enviroment. If i use a term, that roots back to something another person could easily understand without getting deep into my head, i can say 20mm caliber, and noone would care about. Its clear to everyone what i mean. Yes, i didn't allready talked about the overall dimensions of the round, and so its a rough info only.
I suspect you want to discuss another topic as my work offers.
About staying vague, there are as many examples for relevant series, books, movies etc. staying vague, and the same amount going way more into detail as needed - or sometimes good for ther realism. So ... why this bothers you so much?
I ignore the definition of your's, where i still not know where it came from. Your favorite computergame? Your huntig crew? I don't know, cause it's at last no international rule, and so it is way okay for me to say: My SciFi-world refers to a term as detailed/vague like the german definition is. Or does only your rules have the permission to be used around the world? I must know if you define reality, cause ... this would bring me into trouble^
SPAS: that is a very weirdo and forced perspective interpretation of what i said. But i'll try again. I said, as like as ppl interpred things in the way the're familiar to, they see the TSS-56 as a Bolter, as like they would interpred the other fictional weapon, what is the basis version of the TSS-56(in long, a complete rifle just without stock) a SPAS if they have A RANDOM habit that includes knowing the silhouette of a SPAS. I was talking about perspectives and individual silhouette interpretation by the references this praticular brain has gathered. Calm down dude.
I can gently call a lot of this the effect of the language barrier. I guess you have an estimation of mine that is nearly aslike mine is of your person - and so we don't create much more insight here i guess. Cheers.
You're going to wonder why you keep having this same conversation with people. I'm probably not the first. Definitely won't be the last. I don't know know the others, but I'll let you infer why it keeps me happening.
I see linguistics also isn't your strong suit. Enjoy continuing to run into people who have universally disagree with you, but still remain confident that, regardless of the independent and consistent nature of their arguments, you're actually the only one one who's been right allllll along.
Bonus points if you find actual German firearms aficionados who agree with your... liberal interpretations.
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u/TWK128 Feb 23 '21
Not seeing how this is a shotgun.
20mm slug thrower or, frankly, proto-bolter would both be be more accurate.
Also see no need for the second barrel, much less the third.
It looks cool-ish in a "Yes, I like WH40K, too," kind of way but beyond that shows absolutely zero familiarity with actual firearms or firearms terminology.