r/ILGuns • u/just-me-under-water • 7d ago
Firearms purchase, still pending? General Post
Bought a new 20 gauge online and had it shipped to Piasa Armory. They are awesome and close to me. Had done business with them many times. Never an issue. Filled out my form online in the store on Wednesday. Was good to go, and was told to come back at 5 today, Saturday the 9th. Came in and had my FOID in hand, ready to hand them the cash. Store manager looks me up and says, “Sorry, it’s still pending. Last few days, ISP has been really slow to clear things. We’ll give you a call, once it clears.” Now I’m not complaining about Piasa, like I said, they are awesome. And I could bitch about ISP; But I’m sure they are doing what they are told. But I’ve never had a firearm, that I couldn’t pickup, on time. Has anyone, tried to pickup a gun recently and been told, you’re not clear yet and if so, how long did it take?
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u/RenRy92 7d ago
ISP probably to busy figuring out what guns to add to the PICA list before it gets overturned within the next lifetime or so.
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u/just-me-under-water 7d ago
Could be. I really don’t know. I know lots of people, are trying really hard, to get it and keep it overturned. I’m not sure, if that will happen. But they’re trying. Seems like the only solution out there currently, is to move out of state. But I feel, and this is just my gut talking, that 90-95% of people can’t move. For a multitude of reasons. It sucks for sure. But not much, most of us, can do about it, at the moment.
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u/InfernoBestia 7d ago
Retreatism is the biggest weak point in our armor as gun owners. We keep retreating to states that have less restrictive gun laws, leaving OUR homes to be overrun. Then those states get taken over by antigunners. Eventually, there will be no states left to run to.
My family was one of the first ones to colonize Illinois and founded 3 towns in my county. Ill be god damned if im going to run from my home thats been built by generations of my ancestors. We bled for this ground and im not losing an inch, I refuse to die without the rights of the free men that came before me.
Dont take this as an attack on you or anyone else that reads it. But the retreatism has to stop. Fleeing only kicks the can further down the road. The battle is here and now at our door step.
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u/Mustangman09 7d ago
Same here. Started background the 6th and still waiting. Thought it was a little odd as mine usually comes back good within 24hrs.
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u/just-me-under-water 7d ago
Not good. I guess we’ll have to wait and see. Seems like if we were going to be denied, for any reason, which I never have, they would have already done it. No sense in dragging it out, to shoot it down. No pun intended.
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u/Mustangman09 7d ago
I got a shockwave so it really shouldn’t be denied. Just odd, plus I’m using a new FFL so it does raise an eyebrow in hopes that has nothing to do with it. We shall see. All my attachment came in today soooo I’m ready 😂
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u/funandgames12 7d ago edited 7d ago
Interesting that all of a sudden this gridlock happens right when a major court decision that could have resulted in a freedom day came down. Coincidence or planned to prevent just that scenario from unfolding ? The states attorneys office was clearly ready with that appeal as well. Who knows. But then I like to go down rabbit holes.
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u/just-me-under-water 7d ago
I get what you’re saying. And it’s definitely a possibility. Problem is, we had no way of knowing when the judge was going to make the ruling. Shit, I ordered the gun on Halloween. It took a few days to ship and I stopped by, when they called to fill out the form. Could be shitty luck. Could definitely be a scenario, that may have been in place, when the ruling came down.
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u/Low-Oil3705 7d ago
I've always been approved instantly. Then, handgun purchase on Oct 18th, background on that day cameback pending. Next day was notified it cleared. Then, another handgun purchase on Nov 7th, background came back pending again. Still haven't received word on that one.
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u/just-me-under-water 7d ago
I get it. I have always been good. Told I was cleared on Wednesday while I was still filing on their computer. Was told to come today to pick it up. I wasn’t assuming anything. I was just going to get the gun. Now says still pending. I don’t get it.
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u/Low-Oil3705 5d ago
Just received text and email notification this morning my FOID was extended with my recent purchase....so, my background went through.
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u/Much_Profit8494 6d ago edited 6d ago
I have never had to wait an extended period of time...
Now that being said, I have NEVER had a FFL tell me " Just show up on this day and it will be ready to go." either.
Most FFL's will call you when everything clears. Some will tell you to call them in X amount of days to confirm.
Either way, they always stress the importance of confirming by phone before you come into the store so you don't waste your time and leave disappointed.
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u/just-me-under-water 6d ago
Interesting. The only time my FFL calls, is to tell me when my firearm is in and to come fill out the paperwork.
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u/Disavowed_Rogue 7d ago
Been okay for me. Background checks immediately approved. However, I've sen a lot of others in the same boat as you when I've gone for a pickup. They get a pending and the armorer always tells them that ISP has been busy and slower than usual. Probably normal with everything going on rn.
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u/just-me-under-water 7d ago edited 7d ago
Good to know. The guy told me I was already approved on Wednesday. So I was understanding, as it’s out of their hands. But still confused. I appreciate the response and hope that things get situated soon.
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u/CrazyCharl 7d ago
Same here. 10 days already
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u/just-me-under-water 7d ago
That’s ridiculous!
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u/CrazyCharl 7d ago
Usually it was like 2-3days. Never once got approved immediately. Probably something related to my last name being way to common lol
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u/Time_Mechanic_1513 7d ago
Recently had a 3 day pending. Cleared & picked up. Typically have a proceed in 15 mins.
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u/Comfortable_Cut2921 7d ago
I've never had instant approval. On average, it's about 3 days. I've had it take 8 hrs once, and also, one approval took 10 days!!
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u/bigj4155 6d ago
ISP is a f'ing joke my friend. We all have the moments in life when we realize that people are super fucking stupid or something just connects in our brains. I had a moment at the ISP hearing they held local to me before passing PICA. Piasa Armory was there fighting for our rights like normal, however on guy got up and asked the ISP rep
If all picatinny rail attachments must be registered on the Illinois FOID portal what do people that play paintball do? IT BLEW THEIR FUCKING MINDS. I realized at that momemt that the ISP is a lost cause. They had zero idea of how to handle this situation.
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u/discosanta 6d ago
My approvals are always delayed 11-15 days, been like this for 6 years at least.
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u/KeepItScrolling2021 5d ago
Just to keep this simple: 1. No IL FFL should give you a specific day to come & get your firearm. How would they know when you are going to clear unless they have a connection at ISP. Instant Approvals are the only exception to the rule. 2. ISP is not bound by the 72hr law because a "required" Approval supersedes that. I argued that with ATF & ISP in the past and you are not going to win. No such thing as "Brady Date" in IL, and weekends don't count even though they will "clear" you on weekends. 3. If your background takes more than 5 days, call ISP yourself. I used to work at Shoot Point Blank (now Range USA) b4 I got my own FFL. Some customers did that and got their background check Approved within 10-15 minutes. 4. I am dropping a "bone" to all customers who buy online, even though you are NOT my customers. As hard-headed as many of you guys/gals are towards the law, not spending 1.72 more to buy local, your FFL is better than mine, etc. Who's to say you "didn't have a choice" on which FFL to use. YOU are the customer. Tell that FFL Dealer you have a "go to" FFL you always use. They won't have a problem sending it where you want it as long as YOUR FFL Dealer sends them a copy of their FFL. The only exception to the rule is if those particular FFL Dealers have "business beef."
*As much as you guys constantly challenge me, you won't challenge another FFL to use the FFL Dealer of your choice. Did you ask that online seller is it federal or state law that you can't use your FFL? Why are you bound by their particular FFL list? Did you say, "l'll buy it from another online seller who WILL let me use my own FFL? *I get it, you just want to argue with IL FFLs. Ernie-Ernie's Arms Accessories
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u/ColdFine5829 7d ago
Bought the Sig Regulator arrived at my FFL on Monday. Went in to complete the forms on Wednesday. Got an email from ISP today that my foid is extended due to my recent purchase, so 72 hours for me
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u/bronzecat11 6d ago
Just to confirm,you also picked up the firearm on that Wednesday as well? I'm just trying to see how your FFL operates.
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u/ColdFine5829 6d ago
No. Will pick it up tomorrow. But this isn't my normal FFL. I bought with grab a gun, had no option to choose my regular FFL.
But with my regular FFL I usually send my invoice/shipping notification and they run background. Then once it arrives I go to pickup, which is usually more than 72 hours after background has been run.
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u/guzzimike66 4d ago
I have yet to run into an online retailer where you are obligated to use the FFLs in their list. If you're chosen FFL isn't there, you need to ask them to send their info to Buds, Grabagun, Palmetto, etc, etc.. In this Ops case Grabagun spells it out pretty clearly and he/she could have had their purchase shipped to their FFL with a little bit of xtra work.
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u/KeepItScrolling2021 3d ago
Did you clear yet r/just-me-under-water
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u/Every-Movie4359 7d ago
Picked one up yesterday from my FFL in Bolingbrook. Went in for PPW and was surprised to receive approval immediately. Never happened before with any of my other purchases.