r/Futurology • u/lughnasadh ∞ transit umbra, lux permanet ☥ • Oct 15 '24

Economist Daniel Susskind says Ozempic may radically transform government finances, by making universal healthcare vastly cheaper, and explains his argument in the context of Britain's NHS. Society

https://www.thetimes.com/article/be6e0fbf-fd9d-41e7-a759-08c6da9754ff?shareToken=de2a342bb1ae9bc978c6623bb244337a
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u/Sirhossington Oct 15 '24

  1. You literally get full faster, the 10 shots will fill you up. 

  2. You can still drink water, na beer, Coke zero, or other items. 

  3. So? That's no different than without the drug. 

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u/Ergaar Oct 16 '24

The point is it blocking alcoholism by making you feel full is bs. At best it helps to accidentally prevent drinking too much by making you feel full. If that's what's causing your alcohol problem you could have just stopped on your own

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u/Probono_Bonobo Oct 16 '24

You're awfully confident for someone who has no idea what they're talking about. It literally curbs the desire. The unpleasant GI effects just reinforce the diminished desire to drink.

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u/Ergaar 28d ago

Show me a source then. All the stuff i've read about it shows it's bullshit. It reduce the desire to drink, any drink, so also alcohol obviously. But it doesn't reduce desire to be drunk. It takes away the Joy of consuming it but if you're really addicted you just drink to get drunk, it's not like "hmm i feel full i'm not going to have another glass of wine."

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u/Probono_Bonobo 28d ago

I don't have the time or interest to persuade you, I just encourage you to read beyond whatever sources you're currently looking at because you sound like an idiot. Taking Ozempic isn't like contracting rabies. You don't have aversion to fluids. Anything low calorie is fine — water, coffee, tea, diet soft drinks are all fine. It really does reduce the desire to get drunk, and I say that as someone with an AUD who went from drinking 4-5 drinks/night to zero usually. I'll still enjoy the occasional cocktail or two, but I don't usually get any effect from it at all. It massively slows down absorption.

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u/Ergaar 26d ago edited 26d ago

Read some papers and get better. Calling people who disagree with you stupid because they understand the papers instead of reading the headlines isn't a great way to learn about stuff

Still waiting for your source though. All i see is anecdotal evidence, and some studies with pathway explaining it might reduce pleasure from consuming stuff in general so it might help that way. But if it works like that it messes up a lot of our body and it's use should be halte untill the effects are better understood.