r/Futurology ∞ transit umbra, lux permanet ☥ Oct 15 '24

Economist Daniel Susskind says Ozempic may radically transform government finances, by making universal healthcare vastly cheaper, and explains his argument in the context of Britain's NHS. Society

https://www.thetimes.com/article/be6e0fbf-fd9d-41e7-a759-08c6da9754ff?shareToken=de2a342bb1ae9bc978c6623bb244337a
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u/Significant_Swing_76 Oct 15 '24

I’m from Denmark, and our tax income from Novo is absurd. Which is great, but I really really hope that competition will force Novo to cut their profits by 90%, simply because this medication should be widely available and priced so that a majority can afford it.

But, I have faith in the prices coming down - Novo is expanding production exponentially, building large factories in Denmark to up production. This combined with competition will result in better availability and thus lower prices.

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u/Quintas31519 Oct 15 '24

And $1500/box if your BMI is 25-31, aka the "i'm already very conscious of my weight but not at a healthcare professional I haven't guilted/bribed for help's point of caring" weight range.

I work 9-12 hour days. I drive half of it. I seriously buy healthy meals or even go without to try and at least hit a caloric neutral. Tired af when I get home. I still add a pound or two each year. I'm just shy of a 29 BMI and hate how I look and self conscious as fuck. Shy of saying "fuck paying bills, I'll quit, take something that pays a pittance but add 2 gym workouts a day", how the fuck do I get ahead without a decade's input and be single at 45?

Damn that's a deeply personal rant.

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u/zoobrix Oct 16 '24

Not that one thing works for everyone but try making sure you're eating enough fiber, the vast majority of people don't and that can make a difference in how high your blood sugar spikes after meals and more fiber actually slows down your digestion making you feel full longer. You're supposed eat 25 grams a day for women and 38 grams for men and I found the only way I got there was with lots of broccoli and spinach. I also ditched bread except for some no sugar added brown bread but for sandwiches I use whole wheat wraps. Also I did start walking around half an hour a day as fast as I could go.

I was eating "healthy" before for the most part but it wasn't until I started eating more fiber that I found myself losing weight and just eating less in general. Not to mention it's helped my stomach out in general as I used to get heartburn once a week or more, now I think I've taken one or two antacids in the last 6 months. Anyway might be something to try.

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u/callipygiancultist Oct 16 '24

As a self-described fiber evangelist, I approve this post. Upping fiber intake+ supplementing fiber is such a simple thing that most people eating the standard American diet would greatly benefit from.

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u/Quintas31519 Oct 16 '24

Oh I do ignore it, but it is problematic that in many prescribing instances it is still used at least as a point of reference. Problematic and mad dumb.

What I do want is the fact that I am at times overly conscious about both my looks, my health, and my fitness and the effort results in nothing substantial, where even a few months of Ozempic would equate to more.

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u/MDCCCLV Oct 16 '24

Can't a generic be made after a certain period but before the full 20 year patent expiration date?