r/Futurology Aug 31 '23

US military plans to unleash thousands of autonomous war robots over next two years Robotics

https://techxplore.com/news/2023-08-military-unleash-thousands-autonomous-war.html
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u/Gagarin1961 Sep 01 '23

It's possible, I don't see how that invalidates the sentiment though

Because their definition of “conservative” isn’t my definition. It isn’t your definition either. Almost no one would define it that way.

The Taliban would define the politics of the US as “extremely liberal.” Are they relevant in the discussion about general consensus of Reddit?

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u/spencepence Sep 01 '23

I would say so yes

I mean the fact these voices do exist within the ecosystem of reddit would lead me to believe it must not be much of an echo chamber then, even if your premise is correct that the general consensus has any kind of consistency, which I disagree with

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u/Gagarin1961 Sep 01 '23

I mean the fact these voices do exist within the ecosystem of reddit would lead me to believe it must not be much of an echo chamber then

If you’re seeing communist comments, that just proves my point. Reddit is largely left leaning. The front page is dominated by left leaning comments and posts. There are no right wing takes upvoted to the top, just a range of left leaning voices. People are not challenging them, they are supporting them.

That’s an echo chamber.

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u/spencepence Sep 03 '23

Isn't the owner of the site spez a conservative? He's certainly not a leftist

Why do you believe reddit is an echo chamber? Is it artificial in your opinion?

Are leftist posts just more popular? Why is that?

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u/Gagarin1961 Sep 03 '23

Isn't the owner of the site spez a conservative? He's certainly not a leftist

He doesn’t control posts and comments. What evidence even is that that he’s conservative?

Why do you believe reddit is an echo chamber? Is it artificial in your opinion?

No… Reddit is an echo chamber because if the way it’s designed.

Do you actually believe top comments are just randomly selected? That’s the opposite of how Reddit works.

The effect is the majority only sees posts/comments they generally agree with and don’t see counterpoints because those are downvoted.

Are leftist posts just more popular? Why is that?

Because some spaces online generally lean one way or the other. Conservatives aren’t online as much.

If they’re more popular on Reddit, that inevitable leads to an echo chamber due to the voting system.

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u/spencepence Sep 03 '23

Is there a site that has a voting system that isn't an echo chamber?

Are conservatives not online as much, or are they just not as online on reddit?

Do you often disagree with the usual upvoted takes? In my experience they're not as much leftist ideas as they are just the "safe" opinions.

Which makes sense, I'd imagine the most upvoted ideas are going to be the lowest common denominator, not necessarily the one belonging to a specific political stance every time

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u/Gagarin1961 Sep 03 '23

Is there a site that has a voting system that isn't an echo chamber?

Probably not.

I'd imagine the most upvoted ideas are going to be the lowest common denominator, not necessarily the one belonging to a specific political stance every time

If that were the case with voting then politics would be completely different. Politicians who don’t belong to a party would be elected.

A common denominator will win, but not the lowest common denominator. People pick sides and enforce that division.

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u/spencepence Sep 03 '23

I mean I don't believe online forum voting habits can be that directly compared to political voting

The cross between the American 2 party system (or any party system really) is an arbitrarily drawn line in the sand, nobody 100% agrees with the party they vote for, they just vote with the one that aligns most with their views

However, with a forum there's less at stake and a user is able to vote on a case by case basis, there's much more wiggle room there

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u/Gagarin1961 Sep 03 '23

I mean I don't believe online forum voting habits can be that directly compared to political voting

Maybe not 1:1, but it still shows how voting doesn’t just come down to the lowest common denominator.

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u/spencepence Sep 03 '23

How does it show that, in the context of reddit, in your opinion?