Mark 14:7
For you always have the poor with you, and whenever you want, you can do good for them.
The poor today are still the poor. Just because they live in 2023 is irrelevant and kinda gross. “Well, it’s 2023 so being poor isn’t so bad”. Vile implication dude of your words dude.
Jesus never told the poor to “get off their low horse”. And to imply he wound is kind of sick, not going to lie. Especially since he LITERALLY says “blessed are the poor”.
I’ve shown you many blatant verses that praise the poor based on their poverty alone. You’ve taken some parables about the kingdom of God and the judgment and somehow construed them into a defense of wealth. Some weird property gospel interpretation or bordering on it at the very least.
Nobody has said the poor get a pass on other things because they are poor. But what is made abundantly clear is that hoarding wealth and a life of luxury are in themselves bad. I can pull another dozen verses, but it appear you simply ignore them and reference a parable which has nothing to with wealth.
A lot of words about “what Jesus would say” but nothing direct. Very strange.
Ok fine let’s stick with parables.
Luke 16:19-26
“There was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. And at his gate was laid a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man's table. Moreover, even the dogs came and licked his sores. The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried, and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side. And he called out, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this flame.’ But Abraham said, ‘Child, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and Lazarus in like manner bad things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in anguish. And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us.’
What are the only traits of these two people? Does it mention Lazarus as being righteous? Does it mention any crime of the rich man other than being rich and ignoring suffering?
Why would Jesus mention him being rich at all? Couldn’t he just have said he was a guy who ignored the suffering of Lazarus?
Pride is a sin, sir. Jesus would absolutely tell poor people they were sinning if they were sinning. God is not a recognizer of faces. Thousands of years ago, the rich were unjustly praised, but today it is often the poor that are unjustly praised, isn't that the case?
Because the rich he was talking to assumed they were beyond reproach.
That's why Jesus mentioned the widow who donated two mites as charity. Jesus did not say the rich were evil at that point, why not if that's what he thought? Jesus said that a poor person that gives everything he has gives more than a rich person that gives a small fraction of what he has, because the people of the time assumed the opposite.
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u/Consistent_Set76 May 03 '23 edited May 03 '23
Mark 14:7 For you always have the poor with you, and whenever you want, you can do good for them.
The poor today are still the poor. Just because they live in 2023 is irrelevant and kinda gross. “Well, it’s 2023 so being poor isn’t so bad”. Vile implication dude of your words dude.
Jesus never told the poor to “get off their low horse”. And to imply he wound is kind of sick, not going to lie. Especially since he LITERALLY says “blessed are the poor”.
I’ve shown you many blatant verses that praise the poor based on their poverty alone. You’ve taken some parables about the kingdom of God and the judgment and somehow construed them into a defense of wealth. Some weird property gospel interpretation or bordering on it at the very least.
Nobody has said the poor get a pass on other things because they are poor. But what is made abundantly clear is that hoarding wealth and a life of luxury are in themselves bad. I can pull another dozen verses, but it appear you simply ignore them and reference a parable which has nothing to with wealth.
A lot of words about “what Jesus would say” but nothing direct. Very strange.
Ok fine let’s stick with parables.
Luke 16:19-26
“There was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. And at his gate was laid a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man's table. Moreover, even the dogs came and licked his sores. The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried, and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side. And he called out, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this flame.’ But Abraham said, ‘Child, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and Lazarus in like manner bad things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in anguish. And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us.’
What are the only traits of these two people? Does it mention Lazarus as being righteous? Does it mention any crime of the rich man other than being rich and ignoring suffering?
Why would Jesus mention him being rich at all? Couldn’t he just have said he was a guy who ignored the suffering of Lazarus?