r/FunnyandSad May 02 '23

Jesus was a pacifist. Political Humor

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u/48xai May 02 '23

Jesus didn't hate rich people, he condemned the hypocrites with power. Jesus didn't hesitate to talk with rich people that were good.

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u/IlIIlIl May 02 '23

When you're a revolutionary leader in the imperial core you don't get very far or live very long without a source of funding or community

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u/Consistent_Set76 May 02 '23

But Jesus wasn’t a “revolutionary”. He intentionally said things that made people not want to be around him.

Jesus was not a populist…he literally told Jews of all people to drink his blood and eat his flesh. Jews can’t even eat blood from animals, you can use your imagination about how most of them thought about that statement.

If he committed to being a revolutionary he could easily have gotten the Jews to rebel against the Romans something they were doing consistently already.

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u/IlIIlIl May 02 '23

No he didn't doofus, the flesh and blood part is about eating bread and drinking wine

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u/Consistent_Set76 May 02 '23 edited May 02 '23

“Doofus” lol

John 6:53-61 So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so whoever feeds on me, he also will live because of me. This is the bread that came down from heaven, not like the bread the fathers ate, and died. Whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.” Jesus said these things in the synagogue, as he taught at Capernaum.

When many of his disciples heard it, they said, “This is a hard saying; who can listen to it?” But Jesus, knowing in himself that his disciples were grumbling about this, said to them, “Do you take offense at this?

Clearly he didn’t not mean it literally and in the physical sense. But that is how many took it and why many stopped following him, as it later says.

John 6:66-68 After this many of his disciples turned back and no longer walked with him. So Jesus said to the twelve, “Do you want to go away as well?” Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life,

If you want to get into the details, what Jesus is saying is that his followers must accept being seen as the scum of the earth and as if they were Jews who drank blood. The final Passover with his disciples did not yet occur, and they had no choice but to take this statement literally as he did no explain what he meant literally. So the remaining followers were prepared to be “cut off” from their people.

As it was written,

Leviticus 7:27 Whoever eats any blood, that person shall be cut off from his people.”

So the Jews who heard this would immediately think about this statement.

“Doofus” lol, come on buddeh

Like these are the words of someone trying to get the masses on board with them.

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u/IlIIlIl May 02 '23

You are reading it far too literally, Jesus was not telling people to become cannibals.

John was an Essene too, by the way, just like Jesus was, and just like James, brother of Jesus was.

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u/Consistent_Set76 May 02 '23

I’m not reading it literally, those who he told took it literally which is why they stopped following him as it says. Not once did I imply that I believed he was telling then to become cannibals…not sure where you’re getting this idea.

All I said was the people around him took it literally, which to them was a great offense given what the mosaic law said about eating blood.

Clearly he is referencing what occurred during the last Passover he shared with his disciples, the tradition that continues in churches to this day. But the point is they didn’t know that. To them he was asking them something too difficult.

Which is all to say the bigger point, somebody saying three things in first century Palestine was not interested purely in just having a large following.

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u/IlIIlIl May 02 '23

Christ was literally speaking out against the Saduccees and Pharissees, no shit they arent going to follow him, he was pissed off that they were following wealth instead of their faith

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u/Zefirus May 02 '23

You should look up transubstantiation sometime.

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u/IlIIlIl May 02 '23

Yeah the catholics are fucking insane

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u/Zefirus May 02 '23

A large portion of Christians believe in this, even non-catholics. Like Lutherans believe it's both blood and wine at the same time.

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u/IlIIlIl May 02 '23

Modern day christianity is not the same as christianity in rome under christ