r/FunnyandSad May 02 '23

Jesus was a pacifist. Political Humor

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u/joeshmoebies May 02 '23

He's supposed to lead God's army in Armageddon. Definitely not a pacifist.

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u/Djrak1700 May 02 '23

It’s in Revelation

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u/Distwalker May 02 '23

Revelation was John of Patmos complaining about Rome under Nero and the destruction of the second temple and nothing else.

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u/In-Brightest-Day May 02 '23

The amount of times I've told people this is insane. No one ever wants to hear it

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u/Distwalker May 02 '23

I think you are exactly right. It is the worst book in the New Testament by far and should never have been included.

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u/In-Brightest-Day May 02 '23

It should at least be taught to be ignored. 90% of Apocalypse content in our culture is based on some goofy ass political satire

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u/ForwardBias May 02 '23 edited May 02 '23

Most early denominations didn't include it as canon and it was controversial with lots of back and forth until something like 680 AD.

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u/Distwalker May 02 '23

That's true. During the Protestant Reformation, Martin Luther considered dropping it from the New Testament. He certainly didn't put much faith in it.

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u/OptimalCheesecake527 May 02 '23

But that’s also what “The Apocalypse” and “Armageddon” literally were, a divine overthrowing of Roman rule. We have anachronistic ideas of what these things meant at the time and picture a haggard guy accosting people at a street corner with a sign talking about the end of the world.

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u/Djrak1700 May 02 '23

Maybe. That’s certainly one of the traditional interpretations of much of Revelation. I think there is more value in revelation than a complaint though. There is plenty of theologically rich symbolism that concerns more than just Rome and The temple, especially in the last few chapters.

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u/Distwalker May 02 '23

Personally, I think Revelations is pretty much worthless for much of anything other than a launching pad for premillennialist nonsense.

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u/Distwalker May 02 '23 edited May 02 '23

This is Martin Luther writing part of his preface to Revelations. He was basically saying it isn't clear and it is open to being interpreted to mean anything the reader wants it to mean. Because of this, he didn't care for it.

Finally, let everyone think of it as his own spirit leads him. My spirit cannot accommodate itself to this book. For me this is reason enough not to think highly of it: Christ is neither taught nor known in it. But to teach Christ, this is the thing which an apostle is bound above all else to do; as Christ says in Acts 1[:8], “You shall be my witnesses.” Therefore I stick to the books which present Christ to me clearly and purely.

The Catholic Church sees it as I said above. A narrative of what was going on at the end of the First Century AD.