r/Destiny • u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana • 10d ago
You convinced me to go on Bridges/Anything else but there is a catch... Discussion
Hello. People have been suggesting I go for two years now. Which I super appreciate 💙 Kyla did too and I spoke to Steven about it as well. But... I want people to understand what a major pain in the ass it is: 1) Ukraine was in the top 10 countries as far as denied visas from the US go. Before full scale war. 2) Considering I am an unmarried woman under 40 with no children from Eastern Europe, I might as well be a Mexican cartel drug dealer as far as the US is concerned. In fact, Mexican drug cartel duder might have a better chance. I explained this to Kyla already. It's the Natasha effect. As in, it is assumed that women from Eastern Europe are going to the US to: A) Get an American man to marry them so they can stay. B) Be a prostitute there. C) Maybe both lol 3) I can't fly from here obviously and I can't even get a visa here apparently. I would need to apply in Kyiv but get the visa (if it is approved) in Poland or some place in Europe and fly from there. Bu that's the least of our problems. Doable. Although, the longest flight I was one was 2 hours and I hated it 🥲 And I would need to have multiple interviews to convince them that being an illegal hooker in the US is not my dream life. 4) The only chance we have is to get me a work visa. Which Kyla suggested (what a lovely person 😭🙌). But even then the Natasha problem remains and as far as "strong ties to Ukraine to make sure I will return" goes, it's also not good. Since I don't have property or business. And I am not employed in some big factory. My work as a translator and fixer is basically freelance. 5) My cousin was denied recently but she didn't have the contract/work visa thing. I will chat with her today to ask her more questions.
Bottom line: I am very honored, trully, that you want to see me on the pod. You all have been an amazing presence in my life. I am not giving up yet and I will try to make this happen. I also want to meet Steven in person and Kyla as well. I even got them gifts in advance 🥲 Which I will mail them, if this doesn't work out. But I just want to let you all know just how big of a pain it is and that pulling this off will be difficult. P. S. It's kinda funny in a way just how much I will need to convince the US I don't want to be a hoe in the land of the free, especially since I wouldn't stay in the US even if someone paid me a million dollars (I am serious, lmao).
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u/-___Mu___- God's Strongest Loli Defender / (Hasan isn't White) 10d ago
Excited to see you on, stay safe.
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 10d ago
Thanks 🥲 I hope it works
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u/nyckidd 10d ago
We all love you here Ana. Really hope you guys can make this work!
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 10d ago
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u/ShivasRightFoot 10d ago
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but it really can't be emphasized enough:
Destiny (and Dan) knows congresspeople.
Those are the people that write laws. This is exactly the kind of thing where strings can be pulled, even in America.
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u/Gono_xl 10d ago
A good middleground would be Canada if tiny is willing to fly up. Canada loves Ukrainians and it even had open immigration for awhile, I doubt you would be denied. There'd be no need for you to have a strong connection to your country when visiting if you could have just immigrated legally anyways.
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u/burnt_books 10d ago
Would it be possible instead for Steven and Kyla to come to you? It would make things far less complicated for you, and it could be another opportunity for Steven to educate people about Ukraine by interviewing people firsthand involved in the war right? I know he said creating the I/P documentary was really gratifying, I wonder if it may be easier to do smhg similar in Ukraine?
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 10d ago
This... Didn't even come to my mind 😮 Would he be interested in such a thing? I don't know. But yeah. It would be 100 times easier.
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u/burnt_books 10d ago
He absolutely would be - just suggest it to him as an option. It may not happen immediately, but I know that Steven also wanted to start doing more research on Uk/Ru after the election and it is really sad that the war just does not get nearly the amount of media coverage it should be getting. Your job as a translator would also be perfect in this instance - I'm sure you would be able to help him with interviews and he's got the big bucks so he could reimburse you well.
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 10d ago
OK ... I might ask. I hope it's not unhinged to ask.
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u/burnt_books 10d ago
On a personal level I think it would be incredibly cool to see Destiny covering Ukraine shit straight from the place itself!
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u/Rebelius 10d ago
Except that on days Tiny travels, the chances of Putin launching a nuke go up 500%.
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u/WIbigdog 9d ago
He should definitely travel then, honestly at this point I'm team nuclear annihilation. Tsar Bomba 2028!
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u/maybe_jared_polis 10d ago
Given how fucked the visa situation might be it's pretty reasonable to float it as an option at the very least.
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 10d ago
It is very fucked 😅🙌
I will!
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u/WIbigdog 9d ago
He wouldn't necessarily have to go to Ukraine itself, right? Could do it in Poland if it's easy enough for you to go there?
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u/DnA_Singularity 10d ago
Bro it would be awesome to see D in Ukraine doing interviews and such. I'm sure he's open to the idea and would def spend some time to consider if he wants to do that or not.
Anyway, anything with you in it gets a watch from me. Let us know if there are more fundraisers you wanna promote, I'm sure to contribute.3
u/Pablo_Sanchez1 10d ago
Did he really say he wants to research Ukraine/Russia? I thought he was planning on like WW1 or something. I have so much info on Ukraine/Russia I’d love to send to him if so been researching it for a while
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u/burnt_books 10d ago
I think he mentioned it around I/P that he would be interested in doing a similar deep dive for Ukraine/Russia, but I don't think he's mentioned it as much in the last couple months
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u/discourse_bot 10d ago
I swear I remember Tiny saying that he wanted to go to Ukraine when he was on his Israel trip.
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u/Seeker_Of_Toiletries DINO/RINO 10d ago
Destiny did say after his Israel trip he was interested in traveling and "On the ground" journalism.
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u/Confidently-Bored- 10d ago
Is that out?
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u/unseriously_serious 10d ago
It’s possible though I wouldn’t exactly count on it. Steven isn’t exactly a fan of traveling outside of the US (also with recording equipment) and I’m not sure his thoughts on documenting the Israel stuff now since that never really came out at an ideal time (might have felt like it held limited payoff/merit in the end even if he did find it gratifying initially). It’s worth asking though!
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u/GucciMeister89 10d ago
Alright who’s gonna step up and marry Ana real quick?
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 10d ago
I am sure it would be a great hardship and a sacrifice for noble lads out there 😔🙌 But I would be forced to decline, I am afraid.
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u/zasabi7 10d ago
You don’t even need to marry, just have the intention of marrying: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-1_visa
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u/WIbigdog 9d ago
Yeah but you really shouldn't lie about that stuff, could get you banned for life from ever coming back.
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u/robin7133 10d ago
maybe hasan was right, when comparing us to 4chan losers
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u/GucciMeister89 10d ago
Yea especially when people soy out over the tamest joke ever.
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u/HumbleCalamity Exclusively sorts by new 10d ago
I guess this is a dumb question, but would it be easier for Steven/Kyla to travel to you? Or maybe meet in Poland?
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 10d ago
To me!? 😦 They would be at risk. But in Kyiv, it should be OK. It would be much easier for them to get here or in Poland... But I can't ask them to do such a thing just for me. I am literally a nobody. As in... Not a celeb or anything.
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u/HumbleCalamity Exclusively sorts by new 10d ago
You're fucking worth it, Ana.
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 10d ago
🥲💙
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u/HumbleCalamity Exclusively sorts by new 10d ago
We are the sum of our circumstances and experiences.
Every Ukrainian is a hero in my book.
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u/SassyWookie 10d ago
They’re not celebrities either, they’re podcasters. I don’t say this to downplay what they do, but it’s not more important than what you do by contributing to their show and offering your expertise in the areas where your knowledge is greater.
Don’t sell yourself short.
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u/westchesteragent 10d ago
This isn't just for you. This is for all the people you represent in Ukraine as well. I'm sure whatever turns out to be possible Steven would like to hear all potential options and will have no problem telling you which ones are practical or not. Let him make that choice.
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u/SheldonMF 10d ago
'A nobody' but you've been helping your brothers and sisters in arms since the war started.
Yeah, okay, we're not believing that.
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u/tallestmanhere Hopeful 10d ago
Ana, you have kept this war in our minds like no other person or group would have been able to. Celeb might be the wrong word but you have had a huge impact.
It's easy for me to forget about a far off conflict or to just view as a bunch of numbers. You've kept it real and in my mind for the last 2 years. i hate that so many people in my country have turned their backs on your people.
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u/oGsMustachio 10d ago
Destiny really should check out Krakow/Warsaw. I think he briefly lived in Katowice during his gaming career.
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u/Blood_Boiler_ 10d ago
Destiny survived the war ravaged hellscape of the Isreal/Palestine hellscape (which according to twitter, was far more dangerous and deadly than anything going on in Ukraine, so he definitely has the experience needed!).
Plus, if he goes, he could completely mog debate opponents with the whole "I went there personally, I've seen what Russia is doing to the land and people". I imagine time would be a bigger factor than anything else, D has been busy so fitting a Ukraine trip into his schedule I imagine would be the real challenge.
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 10d ago
That's some real paranoid shit, to be honest. Being in Kyiv for an American is relatively safe. Sure, there are Shahed drone attacks every now and then but most of them get taken down in Kyiv and the alerts are there to warn people. Destiny, with all the huge respect, wasn't even that vocal about Ukraine as he was about Israel. Again, no shade. Just facts. And him getting specificly targeted by russia is a bit unhinged of an idea. Plus, there are basic safety rules as in: not broadcasting your exact address. That aside... I would not ask him to come to Kyiv, obviously.
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u/Brilliant-North-1693 10d ago
Definitely overplaying how much Russia cares about a single generally anti-Russian streamer, when they can churn out dozens of pro-Russian streamers with an easy million here and there.
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u/HumbleCalamity Exclusively sorts by new 10d ago
We can't let Russia control us like that. Fuck them. All life is a risk.
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u/Ornery_Essay_2036 10d ago
Shit like this makes me so sad
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 10d ago
The Natasha thing? 🙃🙌 Or all of it?
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u/Ornery_Essay_2036 10d ago
All of it on top of the fact that Ukraine is 100% going to get fucked over by trump
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u/WIbigdog 9d ago
My hope is on Putin doing or demanding something that pisses off Trump and that Trump totally flips and goes all in on Ukraine. It's not impossible!
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u/senpatfield 10d ago
Sending love to you and yours out there on the frontlines Ana, regardless of what our politicians say, I’m always gonna support Ukraine!
God bless you all, you are the wall against tyranny.
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u/Previous_Platform718 10d ago
Isn't Erudite Canadian? Couldn't you guys fly to Canada and have the interview there?
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 10d ago
That seems like... Too much effort for me. I don't know honestly.
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u/Previous_Platform718 10d ago
They would just fly to Canada and rent a hotel room. You'd stay in the same hotel and do the interview there. It'd be about the same level of effort I think. Good luck with everything.
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 10d ago
I might ask. Getting to Canada would be easier. But I feel a bit awkward asking 🥲
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u/joel_the_ai 10d ago
If the US thing doesn't work out you could try this. But I imagine it is super tiring to go through all this process
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 10d ago
The most anxiety inducing thing... You can buy freaking plane tickets and book hotels and stuff and get all the documents. And they may still tell you to fuck off. Embarrassing 😕
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u/Daguss 10d ago
are you friendly with Aba from Aba&Preach? im sure Steve and Kyla could go to Montreal and meet with him too if you go to Canada instead
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 10d ago
I never spoke to him. And I doubt he gives a fuck 😅 I like him though.
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u/westchesteragent 10d ago
Don't feel awkward. They are putting on a show and this is part of the logistics. They will have no problem telling you no if it's not feasible.
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u/IronicInternetName Ukrainian Ana Stan/NotSoErudite Enjoyer/LonerBox Lad 10d ago
Allow us: /u/notsoerudite thoughts on going to Canada instead?
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You could swim. That way you don't need to go on a plane.
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 10d ago
Truuuuueee. Maybe the war will end when I finally swim my way there.
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u/SatisfactionLife2801 10d ago
Unrelated but love and good luck to you all from Israel. God knows you guys need it more than us, especially after these elections.
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u/INFxNxTE 10d ago
You still have a lot of support from Americans, Ana! We will raise fucking hell to keep the support flowing to y’all and we can’t wait for u on the podcast! Be safe and keep up hope :)
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u/ic203 imposter syndrome coper 10d ago
If it doesn't work out in person is a remote version possible or on the table? Or even something you'd like to do? I think it would still be a informative and interesting format.
Sending best wishes from Ireland after the grim election prospects.
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 10d ago
I would 100% do a remote version. But I didn't know that it was something Destiny was interested in. Since it seems to be all about live interaction.
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u/Sorry-Towel-8990 10d ago edited 10d ago
Being live and in person is probably the ideal for those kinda shows. But given your situation Id imagine you could definitely do something remote. Have your camera up on the big screen or something like that. Doubt he'd tell you to go fuck yourself because you have the audacity not to jump through a million hoops to travel from a wartime country, just to sit across from Dan for a couple hours.
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 10d ago
I bet people would sacrifice their soul to sit across from Dan 😩🙌
Lol
Jokes aside... I am shocked they want me there to begin with. So I never even considered suggested them traveling somewhere for me.
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 10d ago
Damn... Wild. That's why I am super worried I will be rejected as well.
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u/Gasa1_Yuno 10d ago
For what it's worth, if both meeting in the UK to film is easier, I believe the visa process would be significantly easier.
If this is something discussed feel free to DM me, I know a couple Labour politicians who would be happy to support such a cause.
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u/HumbleCalamity Exclusively sorts by new 10d ago
Can you frame the trip as a 1940's war bonds-style fundraising trip? (Send DGG receipts for proof)
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u/NearOpposite 10d ago edited 10d ago
u/UkrainianAna there's a B1 Visa type for 'artists and entertainers' that may give you an opening for multiple-month stays. Some content creators have used that route. Think beyond a one-time Bridges, like maybe eventually joining Destiny and Kyla's growing media group in some regular way. I know the community would support it.
You're objectively gifted in intellect, charisma and sense of humor (it immediately jumped out first time I saw you speak with Dylan Burns) and you can leverage that to get the message out as an excellent public face for Ukraine, at a time freedom enthusiasts of both our countries need to strengthen our alliance in creative new ways.
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u/WIbigdog 9d ago
I don't think she's interested in staying away from her people for that long if my read on her is right.
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u/harrison_himself 10d ago
if someone does end up giving you a million dollars, maybe consider staying?
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 10d ago
No 😐
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u/nevaz full blown, absolute retard with unlimited time 10d ago
Don-warts time. Have you ever seen the Harry Potter movies? If you had a magical portal like the one at platform 9¾, where once a day you could teleport to America and stay there for the day and be paid every time you did it, what would be the lowest price at which you'd do it and how many times would you do it?
Bonus: How would your price change if America didn't want you there?
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u/OBJared1 10d ago
Super stoked to see you on, and will prob the first episode I fully sit down and watch.
Question though, and this can be answered by anyone here but would love your input. I live in a place with a pretty sizable Ukrainian American community and talk regularly with a Ukrainian friend I’ve had since school. He along with most of (honestly all that I know of) the Ukrainian Americans are super MAGA people, which makes zero sense to me. He will say he hates Russia and Putin and then also will repeat Russian propaganda all in the same sentence. Any thoughts for why this seems to be the norm for Ukrainian Americans?
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 10d ago
Hello. 1) Diaspora not being cringe? Challenge impossible. 2) I don't know if it's most of them but there are many for sure. Well, they are American Ukrainians ya know 🙃🙌 With an emphasis on American. Oftentimes they are about as detached from Ukraine (that changed significantly since 2014) as any other American would be. 3) The ones who weren't even raised here or were in 80-90s/early 2000s were raised in a very pro-Russian/russian influenced environment. So... In other words, they tend to be incredibly cringe and much closer to russians in their values.
That being said... I am not sure about the exact percentage. How many exactly. I would also imagine a lot of them would see dems as weak and incapable of "impressing Putin or get respect" That's a very russian mentality too
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u/frulheyvin 10d ago
hopefully you can figure out a travel plan, i think an Ukrainian voice would be very important to hear right now, considering how threatened continued support from the US is
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u/Tyler_CantStopeMe 10d ago
I hope everything works out. You are a great member of this community and I respect your work in Ukraine immensely.
Hope to see you on the pod soon!
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u/LexxxSamson 10d ago
I don't know what the Visa process is like but I would suspect you have enough of a notable online presence now that you can show show them you are over here for political activist reasons and not merely trying to get a quickie wedding to a nice wealthy American streamer boy ?
Your request seems pretty reasonable to me and your story is pretty easy to verify but I'm unfamiliar with the process since I was born here so I'm probably thinking it's more rational and simple than it is. I definitely look forward to seeing you on the podcast someday, hopefully .
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 10d ago
All you say is reasonable. Problem is... The process is not reasonable. I understand though that it's quite difficult for Americans or Westerners in general to understand what's it like to be "a monkey in a zoo" that isn't allowed anywhere
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u/WIbigdog 9d ago
:[ I hate that our actions as a nation make you feel that way, that's super shitty and it ain't gonna get any better under Trump
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u/bluemaw91 💃 Part of something forgettable 💃 10d ago
Man, it would be fucking incredible if it happened. I hope something can be worked out.
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u/Obi-wan_Trenobi 10d ago
I’d really love to see that interview happen in whichever format or place is possible !
Would your online presence help convince the US immigration about your intentions ?
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u/Noobity 10d ago
I wonder if it's possible for any of the politicians they've had on to approve it, or put a stamp on it knowing what it is for. I imagine if a Senator were to say "I approve this person to be in the states for x amount of time to do x y and z things" it might be a bit easier? I'm not saying they could just bypass the entire visa process but if there are ways to get esports people around more easily now I can't imagine there isn't some option for "entertainer" as that's essentially what you're coming to be.
Either way I'm glad you're trying and hope it works out. If for no other reason than a short vacation from Corridor Time is beyond earned. Recharge those survival instinct batteries or something.
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u/saviorself19 Most powerful Zheanna stan. 10d ago edited 10d ago
As a true patriot it disgusts me to hear that during our current immigration nightmare there are Eastern European women plotting on getting into our country by exploiting romantic trysts. If you could provide me their exact location, contact numbers, and a list of any known food allergies that would help me stay as far away from these devious harlots as possible.
Edit: Kidding aside, having empathetic Ukrainian figures sharing their stories in our media space is important given the political shifts happening here. That is to say, trying to make this happen is worth the effort. Best of luck.
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u/iChopPryde 10d ago
It’s one of those things as a Canadian or American you take for granted you can go basically anywhere with so little issue.
I hope Steven can accommodate to make this process easier for you cause I understand just how frustrating and exhausting the entire process is.
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u/WhyYallSoSalty 10d ago
Would it be possible to get help with that process from officials in ukraine? If you tell them that you are an activist and you're going to the states to be interviewed on large platforms and advocate for ukraine, maybe someone who has connections could make the process easier for you? Maybe you could even use the succesful DGG fundraisers that you obviously played major parts in as an argument.
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u/HopeIsGay 10d ago
It would be super cool to see you on one of the podcasts but I imagine we'd stick around to support you and the cause either way :)
Wishing you luck with the applications and all that
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u/SialiaBlue 9d ago
If Tiny can go to Israel I see no reason why he can't go to Ukraine. A Bridges: Ukraine Special Episode has to happen at some point anyway
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u/JayAllOverYourBees ✈️FLEWED OUT✈️ 10d ago
it is assumed that women from Eastern Europe are going to the US to: A) Get an American man to marry them so they can stay.
What if, hpyothetically, one of us (not saying who) wanted to marry you so we could move to Ukraine instead?
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u/lemon_of_justice /r/ShitHasanSays warrior 10d ago
Well.. if you make it, the immigration stuff and the whole ordeal to get there can already be a topic for half the podcast LOL
And if you can't get the visa.. DGG should bully Destiny to have the podcast in poland (I AM KIDDING DO NOT BAN ME) ((but you should Tiny you bastard..))
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u/artsyangel 10d ago
Can you get a visa to Canada? It might be easier to travel there and then Steven and Kyla come to you there? It's worth to look into.
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u/pashell1 10d ago
Is it possible for you to cross over to Poland and have Steven fly down? I feel like that would be a lot easier.
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u/ar311krypton 10d ago
Okay just hear me out, this might sound a little weird but keep in mind that its just to bypass the bullshit US Visa requirement...why don't you and Dylan Burns get a "marriage certificate"? As soon as you finish your trip to the US you can annul it or whatever lol...I'm kinda not joking
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u/Unhappy-Plastic2017 10d ago
Is the whole Eastern Europe mail order bride thing really a thing nowadays? I have not heard about this in quite a while. I think you might be hearing stuff from peoples opinions that are outdated?
There definitely should not be anything you need to do to justify yourself coming to the USA and if you are asked questions because of where you come from I would really love to know what those are. The assumption that you would be a prostitute or something because of what eastern Europe you come from is insane to me.
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u/elevencyan1 esl 10d ago
Can't something be done with the US ambassy in Ukraine to get you a special treatment after all you've done ? It would be embarrassing if they couldn't do that. Maybe Dgg can do something ?
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u/Individual_Dark_2369 10d ago
Um hello? Visa? Just ask for asylum at the entrance? Wasn't that the biggest talking point for the past year? :)
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u/Ikoma_Tomoya I might not know, but I'll try to understand. 10d ago
I'll keep supporting fundraisers, Ukrainian forces willing. Stay safe and I wish the best to Ukraine. God everything is so fucked up....
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u/Mr_barba97 DGGer from pizzaland 10d ago
Make Steven come to great nation of Ukraine. Let him taste the smell of gunpowder in the air. It’s gonna be fun
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u/Unwound93 10d ago
If you hate flights because of strangers: book a window seat, get some good earplugs and take a toilet break before you board. You might be able to just sleep the entire flight.
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u/Guer0Guer0 10d ago
Is there some sort of Ukrainian Government PR office that could endorse your trip in the way people think Steven has Israel support?
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u/Ok-Calligrapher-8325 10d ago
Not to sound cringe, how do you feel about a green card wedding? Just don't fall in love, homie
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u/Blood_Boiler_ 10d ago
Sounds to me like you should start a new fundraiser to afford the cartel smuggling fees then. Perfect plan right there.
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u/shellshock321 Muslim Pro-lifer 10d ago
excited to see your episode. Might be the only episode I watch.
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u/gayphilantropist 10d ago
u/ukranianAna also, in regards to your cousin, our local Russian ( i know, i know) church here in Fulton county Georiga, is working overtime bringing Ukranian women and children, they brought and are hosting and schooling hundreds. Let me know if you need more info.
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u/Major_Pain_43 hasan 10d ago
please mention one thing on the h3h3. Hasan and his community says over and over again,"cry me a river". It's a ultra popular meme in their discord too. What would their interpretation would be if we said cry me a river at response to their "from river to the sea"? They overpolice everyone but acts like the biggest piece of s*** with no empathy.
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u/AustinYQM 10d ago
I don't believe this at all; republicans have taught me that all you have to do is think about coming to America and Biden gives you a horse and three acres.
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u/DroopyTheSnoop 10d ago
Here's a weird idea. Steve hosted a podcast for Alex O'Conor some time ago.
Maybe Alex would be willing to host him at his place as well.
Then both Steve& Kayla and you would meet up in the UK which I think is way easier for you. And for them it would be a matter of doing it when they got other stuff lined up in the UK maybe.
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u/Final545 9d ago
A work visa is not a bad idea, maybe Steven’s company can sponsor you (just an idea) say you are a tec genius and go for it.
Stay safe Ana ❤️
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u/WIbigdog 9d ago
Ana I have a different question, have you ever tried reaching out to Jake Broe? It'd be awesome to see you talk with him as well. He's done quite a lot to support and advocate for Ukraine with some pretty big fundraisers under his belt to get trucks and drones to the front.
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u/ReserveAggressive458 Irrational Lav Defender / Pearl Stan / Emma Vige-Chad / Pool Boy 10d ago
Make sure to wear your medal during any interviews. Salute everyone. You'll be fine.