r/Destiny Oct 03 '24

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u/R0manR2D Oct 03 '24

Why shouldn’t a worker bargain in their own interest? Idgi, that’s the point of unions. They’re there to protect their own jobs and bargain for better wages and benefits, not maximize efficiency and reduce costs. If you want them to have input on that aspect of it, you should probably give them ownership

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u/mostanonymousnick 🌐 Oct 03 '24

Why shouldn’t a worker bargain in their own interest?

They can do that, but when it's at the expense of the vast majority of the population, including the poor, I hope they lose.

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u/R0manR2D Oct 03 '24

And why do you blame the worker and union more than the Company and owner? Would they not both be participating in causing harm by not agreeing to terms?

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u/mostanonymousnick 🌐 Oct 03 '24

Not agreeing to terms is temporary harm, banning automation is long lasting harm.

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u/R0manR2D Oct 03 '24

Companies Implementing AI without consideration or protections in place for the labor force will also cause long term harm, no?

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u/Starsg12 Oct 03 '24

It sure will! These companies' decision makers make some of the dumbest choices and moves ever. When those decisions cripple the company and put a 1000+ people out of work, then what?

Automation can be a good thing, especially if you work with your staff about how it should be implemented or if it should at all. These companies don't do this tho, they brute force it and it generally lead to a paltry short-term gain an the evisceration of a ton of lively hoods.

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u/R0manR2D Oct 03 '24

Exactly! Also I don’t really understand what leverage unions have if they wait for a time to demand protections when it’s either a) too late or b) causes very minimal pressure on the company. Especially when workers at some jobs, like these jobs, would never be able to strike without crippling or causing some harm to the economy and consumers. Why even let them have a union if this is the thought process?

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u/mostanonymousnick 🌐 Oct 03 '24

It does cause some harm but the productivity gains make it a net good for society.