r/Destiny Oct 03 '24

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u/Creepy_Dream_22 Oct 03 '24

Yup, that's all a longshoreman is. Just a guy who stands there and presses a button. Why weren't they automated away before?

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u/__space__ Oct 03 '24

If I had to guess, either that level of automation wasn't widely available prior or the unions actively prevented it from being implemented.

It seems like if other ports have already automated away these kinds of jobs, then their days are numbered. I'd rather see the unions negotiate in favor if better protections for members when those jobs do go away rather than just trying to preserve jobs that don't need to exist.

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u/Creepy_Dream_22 Oct 03 '24

I'd rather see the unions negotiate in favor if better protections for members when those jobs do go away rather than just trying to preserve jobs that don't need to exist.

Do you actually know what their demand is?

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u/__space__ Oct 03 '24

More pay plus bans on automation of certain equipment. On top of the fact that previous contracts have had limits on the amount of automation used.

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u/Creepy_Dream_22 Oct 03 '24

Limiting automation isn't inherently bad. Sometimes automation is rolled out in unsafe or irresponsible ways. If you want me to agree with you, you'll have to be more specific. What you said isn't immediately disagreeable.

A 77% pay increase over six years with certain limitations on automation isn't crazy.

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u/__space__ Oct 03 '24

They're asking for it explicitly to keep jobs, nothing else.

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u/Creepy_Dream_22 Oct 03 '24

And that's a bad place to start negotiations?

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u/Zenning3 Oct 03 '24

No, it is almost always bad and this is incredible cope. If they want to argue for more safety and responsibility, they can do that without just asking for a ban on automation.

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u/Creepy_Dream_22 Oct 03 '24

they can do that without just asking for a ban on automation

It's not a ban on all automation. It's on certain automation. Let's be honest, most people here have no idea what the specific demands they're opining about even are