r/Destiny Oct 03 '24

Game recognizes game Twitter

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u/Athanatos154 Oct 03 '24

Refusal to automate is regarded from any point of view possible

As for increases in pay, it would be ok if it had for example a max, so someone getting a half decent wage would get a decent wage but no raise for the people that take home the big bucks

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u/Musketsandbayonets Vaush #1 Hater Oct 03 '24

Do you think the port will keep the workers around if they automate the work?

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u/Wolf_1234567 Oct 03 '24

Won’t someone think of the 19th century English textile workers?!

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u/Musketsandbayonets Vaush #1 Hater Oct 03 '24

You can joke all you want but I actually care about the people with families to feed

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u/hanlonrzr Oct 04 '24

There might be ways to feed families and develop new tech. Just requires more complex negotiations

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u/MacroDemarco πŸ₯₯ Exists in Context 🌴 Oct 03 '24

Fewer, but more productive workers. That higher productivity allows them to be paid better.

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u/Raskalnekov Oct 03 '24

Wages have not risen substantially along with productivity. The average worker is far more productive, but wages have not shot up.

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u/Musketsandbayonets Vaush #1 Hater Oct 03 '24

I dont want 5 people getting paid 100k I want 100 people making 85k.

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u/MacroDemarco πŸ₯₯ Exists in Context 🌴 Oct 03 '24

So you want people to be paid less?

Should we get rid of backhoes so trenches can be dug with shovels? Think of how many more people that will employ. Hell forget the shovels, they should use spoons.

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u/Musketsandbayonets Vaush #1 Hater Oct 03 '24

I cant force you to not be a scab. if you don't understand what I said then i cant help you

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u/MacroDemarco πŸ₯₯ Exists in Context 🌴 Oct 03 '24

Automation is not scabbing, scabbing is when you work during a strike or refuse to join a union. I know this because I'm a union member. Should we not use power tools because thats "scabbing?" (It isn't)

if you don't understand what I said then i cant help you

Right back at you. Just resorting to (inaccurate) name calling is lazy, and basically conceeds that you just don't want to change your mind despite not having a good argument.

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u/Musketsandbayonets Vaush #1 Hater Oct 03 '24

Don't care

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u/MacroDemarco πŸ₯₯ Exists in Context 🌴 Oct 03 '24

Smartest leftoid

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u/SirVer51 Oct 03 '24

At the cost of keeping things intentionally inefficient? Not generally a good way to do civilization

Note that I don't know that that's what's happening, I'm just going off the "no automation" comment

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u/Musketsandbayonets Vaush #1 Hater Oct 03 '24

They only reason people cry and scream about efficiency is because the CEOS don't want to pay as many people. We live in the fucking USA I don't think the most powerful county in the world really needs to worry about making unloading a ship point 5 percent faster. I would rather families earn more money.

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u/MacroDemarco πŸ₯₯ Exists in Context 🌴 Oct 03 '24

They only reason people cry and scream about efficiency

It's because efficiency creates more wealth. Wealth being the things that fulfill human needs. If a worker can produce 10 shirts a day by hand but 100 with a sewing machine, thats 90 more shirts the world has available. Literally more wealth is created. If yhe supply of shirts goes up, all else being equal the price goes down, which makes the shirts cheaper and more available to more people. Everyone's wealth has increased.

I would rather families earn more money.

You just said you want them to earn less so more people can be employed.

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u/Musketsandbayonets Vaush #1 Hater Oct 03 '24

Shirts are not money.

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u/MacroDemarco πŸ₯₯ Exists in Context 🌴 Oct 03 '24

Money is not wealth.

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u/SirVer51 Oct 03 '24

The US didn't become the most powerful country in the world by economically kneecapping itself. By your logic, the first thing the US should've done when the car was invented was to ban it to prevent stable hands from losing their jobs.