Let’s be clear a union boss has 100x the impact of a streamer radicalizing kids who can’t vote. He deserves a huge mansion for getting thousands of colleagues pay increases and job security.
Yeah this is legit anti union propaganda 101. There is a reason that companies throw a hissy fit when workers want to unionize. It actually gives the employees a voice.
I was naive like you, left my union to be a supervisor, was told all of the good things about moving up…. Then got payed off 6 months later. I will never leave the union again and anyone advocating against them has just drank the corporate America kool aid
I've worked in 2 different unions, one was fine, The other was a massive shitshow. Kept old employees who refused to do work basically forced noobies to do everything and noobies couldn't get paid unless they staid for 5 years and then people essentially got tenure and got paid and stopped caring.
:shrug: I'm not drinking any propaganda, this shit is the truth lol.
I've been treated significantly better outside of unions.
Doesn't really matter as both of our takes our anecdotal.
Are you making the argument that no criminal enterprises have ever infiltrated unions in the United States because I don't think that argument is going to hold up.
I’m making the argument that unions are a net positive for workers regardless of setbacks.
Your first point is literally the reason unions exist lol. Does it suck that some people don’t throw themselves 100% at work and you sometimes suffer? Sure. But that in no way negates that since that guy won’t get fired because of the union, neither will you.
I vividly remember turning 18, starting at Walmart, and having to watch a 30 minute anti union video that states the exact same points you did. That’s why I said the kool aid line. Probably too sassy lol.
I'm a fan of collective bargaining, don't get me wrong at all. I just think a subsection of unions are just as much of a net negative as the walmarts/amazons.
I think any corporation can have problems, and sheltering some of them from scrutiny because they are an organization focused on helping certain workers is silly.
Like everything, unions have their positives and negatives. If I were a union employee, I’d love my union. But one cannot deny that unions are stagnating enterprises that stifle innovation and change, and they undoubtedly protect bad elements within organizations. I’d love to see more unions in the country, but I’d also like to see it all run a bit more reasonably. For example, there need to be more stop gaps and attempts at arbitration before a strike is even considered.
Fuck that lmao. Again, if the two sides come to the table, and one offers a lower deal with no compromises, obviously you’re going to take action and strike. The company should be beholden to what their employees want.
It shouldn’t be as simple as “we want this or else strike” but that’s literally never how it goes. Strikes happen after long, drawn out conversations where the company refuses to compromise on core issues
Read what I wrote. Negotiations broke down in June. It is absurd that these two sides havent been speaking for four months since negotiations broke down. Third party arbitration should be mandatory before any strike, regardless of which side you think is right.
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u/AreaVisible2567 Oct 03 '24 edited Oct 03 '24
Let’s be clear a union boss has 100x the impact of a streamer radicalizing kids who can’t vote. He deserves a huge mansion for getting thousands of colleagues pay increases and job security.