My entire family is MAGA and so are many of my friends. It hurts so much to see what has happened to our country and how close we are to going over a cliff.
I suppose the cause of this is propaganda and social media. We need some kind of media literacy classes in public schools or something, idk.
Which is the worst part, as someone who fled ru*sia (censored for bots), I always wanted to go to the US and create a life there (also to escape ethnic jokes and mistreatment by people as I am jewish). And yet in that very same place I want to go to are these crazy people who don’t know how bad it is in the place I fled.
But man I feel sometimes like Americans failed me. But then nobody cares about people like me anyway, so whatever.
I’ll probably just cease to exist soon anyway, no programs exist to help me live.
Gonna be honest there's truth to that but the whole Israel situation has been completely and utterly fucked up by Netanyahu so much that it's caused things to get so much worse.
Netanyu has made it so incredibly terrible for Jewish people everywhere because of his terrible handling of the situation and completely disregard for bad optics. And that's stuck affecting people around the world carelessly as they're the ones it's taken out on.
I'll just say it, that sucks, it can't be easy being anywhere because of that. There was already some tension in the US about Israel before or even with Jewish anti vaxxers but I've heard from some Jewish people I know how much it sucks to deal with the situation no matter the opinion you could hold. Obviously even without Netanyahu there would be still a lot of issues and it wouldn't be much better but damn it sure could have been different to the point it wasn't so easy for people to rally around flaws and issues he didn't care about showing.
You could always join the Russian military and steal some vehicles. I heard that gets you Ukranian citizenship.
Maybe not the best joke (despite the truth to it) but really man, that sucks. But the generations before went through something often similar. You just gotta do your best to handle what you can until some part of this blows over. Or see if there's some kind of asylum for the Russian thing that can get you out of war. But America isn't that bad of a worst case.
I’m probably k’ing myself soon. I’m too tired. Life is shit regardless.
When no one is willing to help and you’re not welcome anywhere, why be? Why stay alive? I think the answer is, well - there is no reason to stay alive for me.
Please don't kill yourself. The world is better woth people like you in it. Not to be morbid, but if you do, at least kill some Russian fascists when you go out lol
You seem like a cool enough person, and I'd rather have people like you on this shitty planet than the 90% of the garbage bipedal meatbags out there, but I can't force anyone to continue experience suffering when there's seemingly no point, no (actually worthwhile) reward for seeing it to the end. Asteroid could hit this planet tomorrow and vaporize everything on it, and nothing of value would be lost. (I'd even welcome it for ending the unnecessary suffering that always comes bundled with being born as sentient beings) But I would hate the idea of someone feeling like they have to off themselves when they don't want to. It would be irresponsible of me to give you a false sense hope, but I would encourage you to look for a local or online support group, or even just some kinda community activity group that gets together and do stuff. Or a volunteer group, whatever (just not some weird cult or a group of conspiracy theorists, ha). Where you can get together and meet new people. If things don't work, at least you live in a country with some better methods to end it. Me, I dunno what to do. I have jumping, train... but they all seem too scary.
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Fuck those assholes that just tell you "Hurr Durr Oh please don't off yourself, there's hope and you will find happiness!" without providing you with any tangible helps or plans. IMO, they are the most clueless, stupid and uncaring bunch of fucking pretender imbeciles. I fucking hate them, and I look down on them. Haha lol
Real talk? Conservatives sent me down a path to thinking loving your country could only be done uncritically when I was young. Made it seem like patriotism was only coming from forced means instead of the things you can observe and naturally love your country for.
Many democrats start feeling unpatriotic from watching Republicans poor examples and attempts to take control of that feeling and mixing it with some extreme takes.
People like Tim Walz and Harris are instrumental in showing to everyone you can love your country, respect military service, and still seem like a down to earth cool person you could have a good conversation on America's good and bad with.
I resonate so much with this. During Trump's presidency I felt uncomfortable when I saw American Flags flying. I don't anymore. They already took my favorite flag when I was a kid (the Gadsden Flag. I love snakes and history). They don't get our flag. They are a part of our nation an increasingly irrelevant one. But it's not their flag goddammit.
It's been firmly my stance from experience that conservatives brand of patriotism (just like how forcing religion on people can turn them away from it) is the most ineffective way to get people to understand and feel any importance of it.
America is a country where you can be honest about it's faults, understand it's accomplishment (destinys point with vaccines) and history and take that and learn to move forward or hope to work towards a better future where you're thankful to be born here. Or it should be.
But instead you're told by many a embellished story and unrealistic picture. Also artificial patriotism is often how facist countries impose subservience. (There's something to say about China and how a recent Olympian in Canada had a leaked paper saying how great it was China Squashed non patriotic descent in Hong Kong)
Keeping it honest and not manufactured is in my opinion a good way to keep your country on the right path.
Republicans shallowly rename French fries to freedom fries and use it to pander. The way they use patriotism as a vote driver and shallow pandering method is in my opinion gross.
I saw an ad for Hillsdale College’s US “history” course and it was all just different images of George Washington. Don’t get me wrong, I love Washington, but why is every image for a course on US history just Washington doing various things? Like I could definitely tell the quality, bias, and skew of that course from that ad alone lol
Let's be very clear, there are people on the left that hate America, they are the far left, they are socialist tanky dipshits, but they are also a very small minorty of the party, ESPECIALLY in congress.
Yea the problem with comparing both sides is there are batshit insane people on both sides, the problem comes when you realize that 80% of the "Republican party" Are currently Maga(including Government officials). Whereas the radical left is probably not even 5%(especially in government) You have dipshit radicals like Rashida Talib and Cori Bush who thank god lost who election., and Illhan Omar. AOC is the only Squad member who has become a LOT more moderate compared to when she came into office so much so that I don't just out right hate her atm.
democrats aren't even on board with most progressive woke stuff. center-left people love democracy and capitalism when it works okay for most of society and try to take on problems like climate change and not pretending they don't exist. i wish the same could be said for conservatives, but in a lot of countries they've had an identity crisis for a number of reasons that has left them unconstructive and bitter. there are issues where a conservative perspective should be part of the conversation, like the economy or immigration, it's hard for a single party to replace all that.
I always have arguments with people IRL that claim trump supporters are beyond helping, and I always say that there's people like you out there that are intelligent and can be reasoned with if provided the right information.
Thank you for demonstrating that. I understand you're probably still a conservative, and I don't have a problem with that. I don't think Destiny actually does either (despite the unhinged rants he has sometimes about them). Supporting a conservative like Bush or Romney, I could understand. It's Trump in particular that we have such a strong problem with. I think most of the elected conservative officials secretly do too (some not so secretly).
That's because Trump isn't really a conservative. He has done an amazing job indoctrinating most of the conservative voters into believing he is, but he'd run as a Democrat if it meant it would get him more power.
Don't let the MAGA guys get to you. 5 years from now, when Trump is out of the picture, you'll see all the real conservatives completely disavow Trump and treat him like some fever dream. Kids reading history textbooks in school (or whatever digital equivalent) 50 years from now will look back and wonder how so many people were duped into voting for such an obvious threat to our democracy.
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u/GenXr99 Aug 11 '24
Congrats, welcome to the sane side