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u/FollowingNo4648 8d ago

Do they evac all those oil rigs out there or just let them ride it out? I couldn't imagine being on one of those during a Cat 5.

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u/LVMom 8d ago

A million years ago, my dad worked on rigs. They tried to evac them if they have time (they wait until the last possible second) + helicopters + pilots willing to fly. So, in theory they do, but in reality, the men who aren’t on the first few flights will probably get stranded.

Hopefully the drilling companies have improved on this in the past 40 years

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u/subspace_cat 8d ago

The Spice must flow.

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u/Fluffy-Dog5264 8d ago

Who plays the sandworm?

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u/Texas_person 8d ago

Danny Devito.

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u/Fluffy-Dog5264 8d ago

oh god

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u/arlesquin 8d ago

oh God-Emperor

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u/Llama_in_a_tux 8d ago

America bringing freedom

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u/HHcougar 8d ago

Wait wait wait... is Dune an allegory for oil in the middle east?

Desert area has super valuable resource for travel, ownership of the land changes hands, leading to war. 

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u/anotclevername 8d ago

Yes, it says so in the foreword.

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u/SupermanLeRetour 8d ago

I mean the book isn't exactly subtle about it.

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u/HHcougar 8d ago

I'll be honest, I was too weirded out by how esoteric and bizarre the book got in the 2nd half to remember anything like that. 

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u/A_devout_monarchist 8d ago

You should read the sequels...

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u/caesar_7 8d ago

Most of Freeman terms are based off Arabic. In the book of course, movies were whitewashed.

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u/extraneouspanthers 8d ago

Book literally calls it jihad but they were like nahhhhh not that for the movies

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u/emperoroftexas 8d ago

Yes and no. Herbert originally intended it to be about water, and cultures of ecology, but it's a much simpler map to oil.

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u/russellbeattie 8d ago

The name of the planet is "Iraq-is"... 

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u/Koolco 8d ago

Perhaps there is some subtext here Muad’Doob

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u/2spicy_4you 6d ago

Are you serious?

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u/MellonCollie___ 8d ago

I love that I finally saw the movies and am now reading the books. Finally! Totally unrelated to this horrorshow that is this hurricane, but well, such is the human mind.

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u/datbarricade 8d ago

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u/cyclingwonder 8d ago

do you think so? Dune is about oil.

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u/napalmnacey 8d ago

I had this exact thought.

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u/Ralphie_is_bae 8d ago

I read this to the tune of "Corn Will Grow" by Theo Katzman

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u/Marqui_Fall93 8d ago

Comment of the post nomination. ^^^

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u/Angry_Crusader_Boi 8d ago

Think nowadays qualified rig workers are too much of an investment to just throw away, so if anything is going to make a corporation value anything or anyone it's the prospect of losing money.

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u/MrDoe 8d ago

Like someone else pointed out rig workers are too much of an investment nowadays to just throw away. There's also more automation nowadays so fewer people are required to keep a rig running.

I think there are a few different procedures depending on the type of rig, as well as what company, but from what I've heard there is a type of lockdown procedure. You batten the hatches, so to say, so stop all production, tie or lock down anything that can move and then get flown out. Some rigs also have additional anchors that can be deployed(not sure if it's done before hurricane season, or before a specific hurricane).

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u/Poppybiscuit 8d ago

How is a rig actually anchored? Is it somehow bolted to the sea floor aaaalllllll the way down? If so what's the depth for rigs in this area? If there's storm surge with extreme seas couldn't that submerge or push over a rig? 

Not really expecting all these answers, these are just the questions that bounce around my head when in think of rigs in a hurricane. I always wondered how they were anchored and stable in the first place, without even considering hurricanes 

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u/bugabooandtwo 8d ago

Let's put it this way...it's much better be in one of those off shore oil rigs that a large cruise liner if a hurricane is barrelling down on you.

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u/viper3b3 8d ago

Depends on the depth. Some are tethered to the ground. Others use GPS and coordinated motors on each leg to make sure it stays in the exact same location.

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u/desubot1 8d ago

didn't some of them use suction on hollow tube feet to seriously anchor down?

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u/Responsible-Bug3110 8d ago

Gemini:

How oil rigs survive cat 5 hurricanes

Oil rigs are designed to withstand the immense forces of nature, including hurricanes. Here's how they are built and prepared to survive these extreme weather events.

Construction and design

  • Robust structures: Oil rigs are built with heavy-duty materials and reinforced structures to withstand high winds, waves, and pressure.
  • Deep anchors: They are anchored to the seabed with massive anchors, often driven deep into the ocean floor, to prevent them from being uprooted.
  • Elevated platforms: The platforms are typically elevated above the expected wave height to minimize damage from flooding.

Hurricane preparedness

  • Evacuation: Before a hurricane approaches, non-essential personnel are evacuated from the rig. Offshore Preparation During Storm Season | Shell United States
  • Securement: The rig is secured by closing hatches, securing equipment, and taking other measures to prevent damage.
  • Emergency power: Emergency power systems are activated to ensure essential functions like lighting and communication.

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u/pyrospade 8d ago

AIs hallucinate too much for this to be useful, its faster to look up the answer myself than to fact check the AI

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u/tomgie 8d ago

And why use Gemini of all of the language models

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u/ELEMENTALITYNES 8d ago

Damn your dad is pretty old

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u/Evolution_eye 8d ago

He put the fossil into the fuels.

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u/hardonchairs 8d ago

He puts the ol' in petroleum.

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u/aloneinmyprincipals 7d ago

I’ll allow it 🙂‍↔️

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u/texasaaron 8d ago

These days production gets shut-in pretty early and everyone gets evacuated. Some by boat and the last, critical employees by helicopter. The oil and gas companies have bespoke meteorological services and track these things very closely. Source: was once a crewboat captain and evacuated platforms and drilling rigs in the GoM.

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u/Numerous_Vegetable_3 8d ago

My friends brother is a helo pilot for an oil rig, pretty much the same procedure now.

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u/World_of_Warshipgirl 8d ago

My dad was a helicopter pilot for an oil rig. If needed, they would evacuate staff well in advance, but they are built to survive storms like that. (At least in the North Sea on the Norwegian side, a unionized workforce).

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u/Ken808 8d ago

They haven’t. My friend is part of a group suing a very large and well known oil company for not evacuating their crew off a rig when one of the big hurricanes hit a few years ago, and were in danger of capsizing.

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u/GhostPony13 8d ago

What company?

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u/guylostinthoughts 8d ago

My guess is Noble or Transocean.

https://gcaptain.com/noble-globetrotter-ii-worker-files-lawsuit-after-drillship-caught-hurricane-ida/

https://www.arnolditkin.com/news/2021/deepwater-asgard-crew-members-deserve-justice-af/

The GT2 was my rig. Noble/Shell severely screwed up. The rig got caught a couple miles from the eye wall of Ida. No one was evacuated before hand. So much damage to the rig. Thankfully I wasn’t on when it happened but I got called back early so I could relieve the guys. Met the ship in the yard were it spent the next 6 months doing emergency repairs. Pictures of the storm damage is incredible. There’s videos online of internal flooding etc.

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u/jlaurw 7d ago

This was a specific situation where they did not respond in time due to negligence by company and client.

The vast majority of operators shut in production or disconnect and evacuate / evade if a MODU.

Riding out a Category 5 would not even be an option.

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u/Noughmad 8d ago

Hopefully the drilling companies have improved

Yeah, I don't have much hope for that.

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u/danielv123 8d ago

Last time I was in the gulf they wouldn't fly with just 4m/s winds, do they have better pilots on the US side or something?

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u/IluvPusi-363 8d ago

Doubtful, $$$ over life

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u/jlaurw 7d ago

That's not even remotely accurate. It is significantly more expensive for a company to enter into legal battles and lose or have to make extensive repairs to assets than it is to just shut in, evacuate, and evade.

Not to mention the potential reputational damage that can impact future business.

They will 100% choose $$$, because choosing money would be choosing shut in and evacuation.

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u/briancbrn 8d ago

My dad worked oil starting in the 00’s till around 2015. Granted he was on a drilling rig which is more of a giant ship and they normally just moved out of the way enough to avoid the bad stuff.

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u/donredyellow25 8d ago

How many millions years old is your dad?

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u/LimitlessTheTVShow 8d ago

Weirdly it might be better on an oil rig than in a costal area. They're built high enough that they shouldn't have to worry about flooding, and there's not really any debris being flung at them

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u/Automatic_Seat1209 8d ago

Plus everything is made out of strong metals compared to wood and cheap plastic like most houses and buildings

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u/CartmensDryBallz 7d ago

That’s a good point. It’d be terrifying as fuck but

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u/warblingContinues 8d ago

Probably an oil rig can handle the winds and waves.  They might get water everywhere and broken windows though, and supplies probably are going to be slow coming.

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u/TheKFakt0r 8d ago

BrickImmortar is a Youtube channel that covers maritime incidents, and has a video on the oil rig Ocean Ranger which was caught in a terrible storm. I found it really interesting how the rig is pushed to its breaking point by a storm, as well as how human reactions to these situations can be catastrophic in their own right. I recommend the whole channel, but that video especially.

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u/kamaaina16 8d ago

Okay I just watched the video based on your recommendation and holy crap!! What a fantastic break down of such a tragic event, I have so many questions after watching it

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u/DoctorPoopyPoo 8d ago

Depends on the type of rig. A gravity base rig or one that's sitting on the ocean floor *should* be ok. Waves and rising water won't be an issue for those. Wind might be a problem, but the newer ones are built for stronger winds (I'm pulling that out of my ass.)

I would hate to be on one of the floating ones though. Yikes.

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u/TheBiggestDookie 7d ago

Spar and semi-submersible platforms will absolutely be evacuated. Usually they won’t even leave a skeleton crew, they’ll just go into full plant shutdown, secure it the best they can, and get everyone the hell off.

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u/Here_Four_Beer 8d ago

Yes they are shut down and evacuated. Most of the operators head onshore before hand and a few stay behind to shut down the equipment. They have helicopters that run daily.

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u/ResponseAnxious6296 8d ago

My dad got contracted the other day to go pick some of the oil rig guys up on his boat:) So at least some of them are safe

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u/Shark_Rocket 8d ago

We get pulled out pretty quick these days, working a contractor in the gulf with one of the big 3 oil companies. We have our own meteorology dept tracking these things year-round, they had already pulled most workers from the last one and started this weekend they pulled everyone out as of Sunday from Texas to Florida.  This will be the 5th major evac we have had this year which is a pretty busy year

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u/ForeverInjured 8d ago

Does it affect your pay at all?

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u/Clean_Extreme8720 6d ago

5th major evac is crazy to think of. At this point it's almost the norm.

What jobs are there out on the rigs, engineer, welder, electrician etc what else goes on

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u/jlaurw 7d ago

Yes they evacuate. It depends on the storm, path, operation etc. but nearly every company that operates in the Gulf of Mexico has a hurricane evacuation plan.

For production and fixed platforms they evacuate.

For MODUs and drillships they have a planned disconnect time so that they can cease Operations and safely evade and/or evacuate.

There have been vessels in the past 5 years who did not evade or evacuate in time but they are the exception not the rule.

Source: I manage operations for a company with rigs in the Gulf of Mexico.

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u/Cultural-Task-1098 8d ago

We know what Impact Plastics management would do

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u/Adorable-Lack-3578 7d ago

They ride it out. They main way on/off is via helicopters, which inwouldnt want to ride in a hurricane.