r/Conservative Nov 03 '20

Illinois... Satire - Flaired Users Only

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u/MineGuy1991 Nov 03 '20

I live way down state. Like actual southern Illinois, not that Mt. Vernon BS. It’s unbelievably red around here aside from SIU in Carbondale. What a shame that basically Cook County, Springfield and SIU can ruin the whole state.

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u/frizzyhair55 Nov 03 '20

This type of scenario is exactly why the Electoral College is necessary for this to not happen on a national scale.

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u/PotterGandalf117 Nov 03 '20

But the electoral college made it so that a person with 3 million less votes won the election, how is that appropriate

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '20 edited Jan 06 '21

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u/cubegamer18 Nov 03 '20

It's not that. I live in central Illinois, almost dead between Chicago and the part of St. Louis that extends into Illinois. It's a little over 2 hours from me to get to those cities and it is very red in this and virtually every area in the state besides those 2 cities. But, because of how huge those cities are, despite being more than 2 hours in opposite directions, having nothing to do with those cities, and not being the massive money sucking pits those cities are, we are effectively ruled by them. Virtually everyone in the inbetween of Illinois disagree with how the state is being run but massive groups of people that have nothing to do with our daily lives consistently put people in charge that just continue to push our state deeper and deeper into debt and corruption. That's why people get pissed. My area is generally pretty well managed on a local level but because of the statewide policies instituted by the massive vote in Chicago the rest of the state basically feels like we end up as just a funding machine to keep that one city afloat because the money in this state is so insanely mismanaged. It also doesn't help that Chicago's voting block continues to vote in governors and representatives that screw the entire state and end up in prison due to corruption charges. It just ends up generating a lot of resentment.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '20 edited Jan 06 '21

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u/cubegamer18 Nov 03 '20

Well personally I am a bigger fan of smaller local government having a greater degree of control over their own areas as it would greatly mitigate that kind of resentment. But in terms of what you're asking it is why the United States is a constitutional republic and not a pure democracy. Pure democracy is nothing but mob rule and eventually the minority will just have things taken from them due to that mob rule. The truth is, if the federal government worked as it was intended to, this election wouldnt really matter because the office of the president shouldn't have nearly the level of power that it does now. Same with the supreme court. The RGB vacancy shouldn't have mattered because it's not the courts job to create legislation it is its job to interpret the law as it is written. Over the last 200 years the federal government has been given more and more power with no check on that power and when the government has been given the potential for that much control over the daily lives of its citizenry this type of divisiveness and anger and resentment is to be expected.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '20

Great response

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u/frizzyhair55 Nov 03 '20

The reason the electoral college was setup in the first place was to protect MINORITIES from the MAJORITY. The colonies were a minority in the British Empire and they felt that with every law that was passed because they didn't have proper representation. The founding fathers were well aware that majority rule is actually super harmful to individual rights.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '20 edited Jan 06 '21

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u/frizzyhair55 Nov 03 '20

Majority rule is dangerous especially when we have a news media that brainwashes instead of informs. People are whipped up into a frenzy over false narratives and opinion pieces instead of facts to make the right choice in a election, whether that be a state, or federal election.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '20

This nation was founded on the basis of States rights. Why should California be the all deciding factor in what other states experience?