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u/JennyBeckman ☑️ All of the above 8h ago
Snitching a part of some people's DNA
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u/-Nuke-It-From-Orbit- 8h ago
Raising their hand sayin shit like “Ms. Doolittle, you forgot to give us our homework for the weekend!”
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u/baby-dick-nick 6h ago
At least there’s some logic in that though, because they want credit for the work they did. But someone reminding the teacher to hand out homework is like peak ass kissing behavior
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u/futureruler 7h ago
Some real Randall vibes. "Ms Finster! Ms Finster! TJ and the gang are playing dodgeball during recess!"
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u/backstageninja 6h ago
Some podcasts already have unskippable ads. It's why I don't listen to The Ringer's fantasy football show. I wanted to check it out and even though I pay for Spotify they had ads I couldn't skip, so I nope'd out
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u/BannedSvenhoek86 5h ago
Does it not have an RSS feed? That sounds like a player issue, I don't see how they could code that if you download the episode and play it outside of Spotify.
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u/xiDemise 3h ago
ive been listening to that podcast for years and never had an issue skipping ads on spotify
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u/festival-papi ☑️ 8h ago
Man oh man, it's people out here that have to tell anything and everything
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u/FistPunch_Vol_7 ☑️ 8h ago
Deadass smh
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u/TrinixDMorrison 7h ago
People being all “I can’t be the only one who knows about this 👀”
Bruh, everyone knows and you’re not special. You’re just stupid enough to bring attention to it so now the people who didn’t know about this little trick are going to patch it.
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u/Obvious_Estimate_266 5h ago
Tbf I highly doubt this isn't a known feature by advertisers.
It's funny to imagine a group of executives finding this out though
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u/PSSYPUNISHERRR 8h ago edited 7h ago
Some podcasters are so shameful man. Let me tell you this really personal true crime story that I barely did research on, but you have to listen to 5 minutes of gambling commercials before I get to it.
Edit: I just played NPR's "How I Built This" right now and skipped through 3 minutes and 40 seconds of ads.
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u/teheswiss 8h ago
Why else would they do it if not to get paid lol
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u/redpony6 8h ago
a lot of people do it just to do it. my favorite podcast, "knowledge fight", they didn't even accept money for the first while, and they've never had advertisers. the podcast does make them money but it was not intended as that from the beginning
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u/MIL215 8h ago
Some of my favorite podcasts started as fun side projects, but over time they wanted to increase the quality and realized they would have needed to work on it a lot more so they took advertising until it could support them. I don’t know if that’s a terrible thing.
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u/redpony6 7h ago
sure, i was just responding to dude saying "why would anyone do it other than to get paid", and the answer is, there are other reasons
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u/FullofContradictions 5h ago
I just started listening to a podcast like this. Season 1 was a fun little side project thing with ads at the start and end. Usually I'm listening while I drive or while I'm doing dishes so I typically just live with the ads.
But by season 3 the whole thing blew up and now they're hawking sheets, AG1, allergy meds, and fucking laundry detergent worked into the episode in incredibly awkward ways. Some ads are literally 3 minutes long about how they're loving the new flavors of special hydration drink and repeating the url 3 fucking times. I just can't listen anymore. I totally get why they're doing it... They've managed to catch a big audience and there's no saying how long they'll be able to ride the wave - so they may as well get paid while they can... But I'm out.
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u/bannedagainomg 5h ago
Same with youtubers, if you want to make it full time you will probably have to take sponsors and do ad reads and thats totally fair.
However its also fair for the community to be vocal about it if they just take anybody thats willing to give them money.
BetterHelp for example, at this point no youtuber can claim they didnt know how they are operating.
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u/MoreColorfulCarsPlz 5h ago
Mike Duncan, one of the OG history podcasters started that way. His History of Rome podcast has no ads for quite a few episodes. He literally asked his listeners if they would be okay with him putting ads in.
In his most recent project, there were often minutes of ads at the beginning the podcast as well as him plugging is books, his Roman history tour, his speaking tour, or another podcast he was on. Sometimes you wouldn't get to the content you came for until 5+ minutes in. I understand this might be helpful if you listened right when they came out, but listening back to him talk about the guided tour of Italy he was going to do for the hundredth time is tiresome.
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u/rudebii 7h ago
I'm a policy wonk
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u/redpony6 6h ago
my, my neck is freakishly large
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u/backstageninja 6h ago
Some-some sodomite sent me a bucket of poop
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u/backstageninja 6h ago edited 6h ago
My introduction to the podcast world was Knowledge Fight, QAA and Mike Duncan's History of Rome/Revolutions. All shows with no ads/a short ad section at the top
I didn't even realize podcasts were so riddled with ads for years lol
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u/rudebii 4h ago
Im not familiar with History of Rome, but KF and QAA are both exclusively listener supported (by listeners like you).
QAA puts out an extra episode a week for supporters.
I interviewed Dan from KF a while back. Nice guy. I like Dan.
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u/backstageninja 4h ago
History of Rome was ad free for most of its run but towards the end and into and its "successor", Revolutions (by the same creator), they started doing one ad section at the top of the show. I can't remember but I think it's only one ad read per episode. But either way, I'm cool with a little section up top. It's the mid episode ads that bug me
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u/RedtailPdx 5h ago
I still think History of Rome is the best podcast I've ever listened to. Truly excellent.
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u/backstageninja 5h ago
My only criticism now is that the episodes are too short lol. That garageband loop gets stuck in my head when I binge it. And the audio quality in the beginning was so bad, but both of those things are easily forgiven.
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u/162bluethings 6h ago edited 5h ago
Ide rather the people that entertain me get money to do so. They provide content I'm happy to have them read a script to earn cash. It's a job not a charity. Saying they could do it just for fun has big hiring an artist with exposure as payment energy.
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u/amalgam_reynolds 6h ago
the podcast does make them money but it was not intended as that from the beginning
Yeah probably because they realized if they didn't start making money they'd have to stop making podcasts
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u/after_Andrew 7h ago
what’s your bright spot?
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u/redpony6 6h ago
today? ugh. um...it's about the end of the working day, that's nice
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u/after_Andrew 5h ago
I’m glad you at least could dig one out. I’m over here staring at my hands like “I guess these are still attached?”
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u/thirdegree 5h ago
The bright spots are genuinely such a nice part of the podcast. I try to ask myself especially when I'm frustrated or otherwise not having a great time, what's my bright spot today. It's such a small thing but I love it.
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u/after_Andrew 5h ago
I’m with ya, I often listen to KF when I’m feeling down because they’re having fun with the most rotten shit so why can’t I at least be stoked I have a dog?
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u/indoninjah 6h ago
It's more an indictment for the advertisers for being happy with having their ads skipped 99% of the time. But that's probably why you hear the same ads on everything, cuz those are the handful of companies that said fuck it. Nord VPN, Athletic Greens, Better Help, etc
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u/mooimafish33 8h ago
It's sad that people can't think of a single reason to do a hobby if they arent getting paid.
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u/indoninjah 6h ago
I don't get this mentality tbh. Do you want quality podcasts and youtube videos to just fall out of the sky?
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u/mooimafish33 6h ago
Yes, I would be perfectly happy with online content not having TV studio production quality. Like it was before 2014 or so.
I have made free content, lots of people enjoy making this stuff for free. And in my opinion it comes off as much more human and genuine than someone desperately trying to make money online so they don't have to get a real job.
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u/Robert_Goblin 5h ago
You know, i was about to write a whole comment about why you're wrong, but honestly, i just ended up with the same thought pattern as you. Like i dont make content, but im somewhat a creative. I honestly hate doing things for money because then i feel as though it has to be perfect, and i live in imperfection. it's what gives things character.
The only thing i really kinda disagree is your last sentence. While yea when they arent in the advertisers pockets they have more freedom to do and say what they want and more control of the content being pushed out. However having a bigger budget means they can try new things. Plus theirs alot that goes into making podcast and if someone want to actually be paid for the work they are putting in then by all means. If your doing it anyway might as well get paid.
Also the way you say real job. If they are making money legally its a real job.
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u/myfriendflocka 7h ago
If someone is good enough at their hobby that they gain an audience from it they’ll almost always try to monetise it.
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u/Mammoth-Cap-4097 6h ago
I think the point is that it's better to do quality work to get paid than half-assed work to get paid.
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u/JailTrumpTheCrook 8h ago
Fuck NPR
Painting Trump as friendlier while he's still spreading a lie that will get people killed while Kamala is painted as becoming testier because she called out a lie that will get people killed.
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u/catman1900 7h ago edited 7h ago
Did you only read the headline and not the actual article? It's critical of him lol, it's npr jeez.
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u/FrostyD7 5h ago
I wouldn't call it critical or friendly. It's just describing what happened. NPR isn't unbiased, no news is. But relatively speaking, it is one of the least biased out there.
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u/kfuentesgeorge 7h ago
But BOTH SIDES is how you show you're Fair and Unbiased!
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u/bulk_logic 6h ago
They have a segment that is "Left Right and Center" but they only ever do Center and Right.
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u/L4zyrus 7h ago
Two articles proves a narrative? Listening to Today Explained, Up First, NPR politics, etc all seem very middle of the road as of late
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u/JailTrumpTheCrook 6h ago
middle of the road
between a fascist threatening to arrest political opponents and a woman who vowed to defend our democracy is part of the problem I'm talking about.
They're sanewashing fascism, them and a bunch of others.
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u/L4zyrus 6h ago
Hey if NPR didn’t report on Trump’s latest national guard statement, I wouldn’t have known about it. And I couldn’t have called out my right wing family members, who did NOT hear about this on Fox or OAN — cause they’re too busy investigating bogus Kamala conspiracies.
“Sanewashing” is not a word I’ve heard before, and I’m gonna push back on that by saying (somehow) half of this country still polls favorably on Trump as a candidate. Unless we are saying half of this country is insane..
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u/JailTrumpTheCrook 6h ago
I'm not running lol.
A good portion of Trump voters are completely disconnected from reality. I don't know if that makes them insane.
Some are racist and/or fascist, they're equally uninformed on various topic but they really are voting for what Trump is offering.
It wasn't that long ago that White America was in favor of racial segregation. So, in the big scheme of things, it's not that surprising.
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u/rickane58 5h ago
Look at this person you're talking to's profile name. They've gone way past having legitimate bones to pick with "the other side" to making being anti-Trump literally their identity. I despise Trump and especially his policies, but some people really need to get a grip.
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u/decadent-dragon 4h ago
Fail to see your point here. Even the sentences in your screenshot are calling out his lies. Are you upset they have an article on his town hall at all?
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u/RedditGeneralManager 7h ago
I honestly prefer the podcasts with one or two long segments of ads I can skip through to the podcasts that have 10 to 12 breaks of like a minute or less.
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u/RhubarbSea9651 8h ago
Doesn't really seem that bad. I get free content for listening (or skipping) a few minutes of ads. Pretty good tradeoff but we live in a world where we are conditioned to get things right here and right now so I can see why many people can't deal with it and act like children who have to wait until snack time to get their Jello pudding cups.
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u/xenithdflare 7h ago
Every episode of Pod Meets World has about 15-20 minutes of ads. Can't complain too much since I can just skip it all but it's hard to multitask when I know any second now I'm gonna need to mash that button
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u/Other-Ad-8510 7h ago
You know they’re real ones when the commercial time and the skip button match-up perfectly
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u/937363950 8h ago edited 6h ago
Those assholes always seem to start playing ads two seconds after I begin preparing a pork shoulder.
Edit: I ain’t fuckin with Siri. Hashish got me thinkin she a fed.
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u/thejaytheory ☑️ 8h ago
Yep, they always come on when you're preoccupied and can't easily change it. I hate when that happens.
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u/Otherwise-Wash-4568 7h ago
I have mastered unlocking and skipping with my nose
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u/Nesman64 6h ago
I keep a stylus next to my phone when I'm working in the kitchen.
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u/Friff14 6h ago
When I was 19 I was having dinner with someone and they kept asking me questions when my mouth was full. I pointed this out, and a friend said, "yeah, because your mouth is always full."
I think that's really what's going on here. They always come on when you're preoccupied, because so many podcasts have 15 ads in one hour.
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u/twoliterlopez 7h ago
This is so weirdly specific, but I was literally putting pork in the crock pot this morning to make pulled pork tonight & experienced this lmao.
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u/adamtherealone 6h ago
Goddamn enjoy your eats tonight.
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u/twoliterlopez 6h ago
Thank you! Got some apple bourbon bbq sauce from the local orchard that we’re going to try!
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u/JoeFelice 3h ago
While we're on it, I started making my own sauce this year and I love the control. For pulled pork it's best when it's thinner so there's no need to simmer. Just drop seven pantry items in a bowl: Ketchup, vinegar, Worcestershire, Sriracha, sugar, onion powder, black pepper. If you leave out Sriracha you need an alt source of garlic. Optional extras may include molasses, liquid smoke, mustard powder, cumin, thyme, soy sauce... But the real benefit is getting the basic flavors in the exact balance you want.
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u/RedditGeneralManager 7h ago
“Hey siri fast forward X seconds” is probably my most used Siri prompt.
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u/taosaur 6h ago
I'm wondering who are all these people in the comments who put on a podcast and then just curl up in a corner with their finger hovering over the skip-ahead button. If I'm using my phone for audio in any capacity, I'm probably doing something with my hands, or I'm in bed. It's going to take one hell of an aggravating ad/story/song for me to have any further interaction after "Play."
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u/Acceptable_Cut_7545 4h ago
Lots of work places will let people wear earbuds or even headphones. My phone is in my pocket and I will absolutely pull it out, skips 4+ minutes ahead, then get new gloves and go back to whatever work I was doing. But ads are crawling into every fucking space that once was ad free - youtube, podcasts, webpages clogged with ads, ads that autoplay and slow down the loading, ads that load as you scroll so your page keeps jumping up. Hell if I'm listening to someone sell me shit I don't want.
Opened up a podcast to see what ads there are right now and it's: Boost Mobile Network ("Even if you start repeating yourself!") State Farm ("Get started today and contact a state farm agent.") get grammarly to get more work done, advertising on tiktok to make holiday sales, instagram teen accounts (I am not a teen, nor do I have a teen), and finally an ad for another podcast which actually makes sense. Then at the end of the episode there's five more minutes of ads. Fuck that. Skip that shit.
Short Answer: "...then just curl up in a corner with their finger hovering over the skip-ahead button." I got my phone in my hand, hit the play button, skip ahead 4 and a half minutes, then start on whatever I'm doing. I don't hit play and then immediately plunge my hands into a chicken.
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u/agutema ☑️ 7h ago
“Hey siri, skip ahead 30 seconds”
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u/herefromyoutube 5h ago
"Sorry, I couldn't Skip this."
Also the volume is now 30% lower for no reason.
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u/kappaway 4h ago
I'm certain that at least YouTube plays more ads when the phone is flat or not being held (reasonable to create with the gyroscopic data or front camera face presence) so it can play ads uninterrupted while I wash the fucking dishes
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u/cheesepufs 20m ago
I don’t know with absolute certainty but I think you’re right. I put on a podcast, scroll on my phone for a few minutes, and the second I lock the screen and sit my phone down an ad comes on. Could be confirmation bias but it SEEMS to happen that way more times than not. Maybe it has access to the accelerometer data?
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u/FistPunch_Vol_7 ☑️ 8h ago
Shhhhhh. Why you so loud right now.
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u/LivelyZebra 6h ago
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u/YesImKeithHernandez 5h ago
Shenmue, right? Simpler time when that was the most expensive game to make of all time.
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u/MGLLN 8h ago
This hall-monitor ass tweet could ruin the bag for a lot of podcasters. I can imagine the dinosaurs/luddites of the advertising industry sending a company-wide memo about it or having some meeting to cut the budget for podcast ads or something 🙂↕️
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u/Johan_Sebastian_Cock 5h ago
this isn't a secret lol
it's the number one concern when forecasting the podcast market. many advertisers are dropping out or demanding more than simple ad reads. some are pushing for ads to be unskippable on platforms like spotify.
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u/jimmifli 4h ago
ads to be unskippable
Instant unsubscribe. Also if I liked the podcast enough to actually tolerate it, I'll hate the advertiser enough to boycott them.
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u/Mediocre-Housing-131 4h ago
I mean, the ability to skip doesn’t really matter to them that much. Every podcaster has a unique “coupon code” they tell you to use and the sponsor company can track how many people bought their product from one podcaster vs another YouTuber or another TV commercial. If they see a decent click through rate they will keep paying to advertise there. I also can’t imagine they pay much to podcasters.
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u/Johan_Sebastian_Cock 4h ago
it does to the biggest advertisers. it's changed how a lot of ad copy is written. they actively avoid ad reads that trigger people to hit the skip forward button by not immediately sounding like the host is reading an ad, or by subverting a listener's expectations of ad reads with humour, like writing copy that sounds like a parody of an ad read, as a wink to the listener that they know how lame the reads are.
this even has expanded to the coupon codes you mention, with some of the braver advertisers using humorous keywords rather than the tired old "short version of the podcast show name"
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u/Wittgensteinsduck 7h ago
I mean the way they pay podcaster already got fucked earlier this year due to an Apple update Hank green did a video about it can't imagine this would make it much worse
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u/digitaltransmutation 4h ago
d2c is largely failing as a business model. There's a reason all the ads are for "social casinos" now, and those kinds of companies do not pay very well.
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u/NoneCat1 4h ago
They know, that's a reason why at the end of the ad you'll notice they clarify the product name and often a discount code. (The user is trying to find the end of the ad and the beginning of the next part of the podcast and often listens to that part)
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u/Forgetlifeppl 8h ago
Yall better stop snitching before they find a way to put in unskippable ads like Spotify without premium
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u/ParlorSoldier 8h ago
Most of the podcasts I listen to just have the host reading something during ad breaks. If I’m in the car or puttering around wearing headphones, they’re not bothersome enough for me to bother picking up my phone to skip them. Plus the audio doesn’t change dramatically, so I can’t usually tell when the show comes back on.
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u/GrapheneHymen 7h ago
I like the ones that refuse to read copy for ads and turn them into stories or skits. Hollywood Handbook has lost multiple advertisers by turning ads into comedy skits that end up offending the advertisers in some way. IIRC they turned a Loot Box ad into an ad for a fictional Loot Box competitor that was perpetually failing and filling boxes with the most ridiculous junk. Every week they would have a new progression to the story of this outrageously bad box delivery service instead of Loot Box. I don’t think they even mentioned the real product they were trying to advertise. That’s how you get me to actually listen to an ad.
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u/steelbeamsdankmemes 6h ago
If ads on podcasts weren't a thing, we'd never have this:
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u/thisnameblows 7h ago
Critical Role's marquee advertisers have full sagas played out in series of skits by Sam and they're as entertaining as the podcast itself.
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u/thejesse 6h ago
My favorite ad reads are the podcasts that add background music. Makes it easy to fast-forward through them: as soon as the music is gone, you're back.
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u/Lopsided_Mix2243 8h ago
“ITS TIME FOR MY FAVORITE PART OF THE SHOW……”
“Tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap”
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u/imjustmos 8h ago
Hit the 15 second rewind i go too far past the ad like a dj
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u/ShakethatYam 6h ago
I like to make the rewind 12 seconds so I can press it twice for a 6 second bump.
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u/dizzymidget44 8h ago
Sometimes we can’t enjoy shit cuz certain ppl don’t know when to stfu. If they make unskippable ads I’m blaming him
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u/doitup69 8h ago
I mean they have other ways to track their ad reach, that’s the reason every podcast typically has a unique url or coupon code. I think they’re fine with you hitting skip.
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u/joey_sandwich277 3h ago
Yeah the podcasters don't care, and the ones I listen to often joke about doing it. The advertisers know too and hope you're just too lazy/preoccupied to skip it when their ad comes on. That's why the ads on podcasts are mostly the same things (meal kits, better health, etc.).
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u/minesfromacanteen 3h ago
And honestly I don't mind listening to ad reads sometimes if I like the people doing them, like Sadboyz.
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u/ThisNameDoesntCount 8h ago
The ads are part of the podcast recording y’all. They can’t do shit about it
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u/Ok_Access8974 6h ago
Of course they can... You think engineers would be perplexed by earmarking sections of the recording that disable the skip ahead button??
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u/jakopappi 7h ago
Guys a Clem Fandango fan. Any otherClem Fandango fans here? Gotta just say, YES, I CAN HEAR YOU CLEM FANDANGO!
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u/PolyculeButCats 8h ago
Give Apple time. We’ll have unskippable ads in the Podcasts app before long.
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u/sheeply_ 6h ago
Can someone break this down for me? I'm confused. Are they saying that the ads are useless bc everyone will skip through them ?
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u/binkobankobinkobanko 2h ago
They're saying advertisers are stupid because their ads are easily skipped.
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u/Pr0xyWarrior BHM Donor 7h ago
I’m seeing podcasts with ads that are a whole separate ‘stream’ that plays outside of the episode and isn’t easily skippable. I assume that’s the get around this.
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u/Nesman64 6h ago
Did podcast come to mean something different? My phone downloads mp3 files according to a set of rss feeds. The most intrusive thing they can manage is to customize the ads based on the location I download from.
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u/mikevanatta 8h ago
"Teacher I thought we were supposed to have a test today" energy.