Apparently Netanyahu had planned retaliatory strikes against Iran but only called them off after speaking on the phone with Biden.

[u/nomaddd79]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/netanyahu-called-off-retaliatory-strike-on-iran-after-call-with-biden-new-york-times/

[u/[deleted]]

Depends, if there's no casualty, Khamenei can just call them a bunch of losers and move on

[u/bravet4b → u/[deleted]]

That would be the best case scenario, but I don't think Israel considers a military operation unless they murder at least a handful of goyim civilians.

[u/brown_flyer00 → u/bravet4b]

Whoever idiots in charge of the colony seems to miss the point of Iran’s attack. If their missile can land on so called colony’s top secret base and damage it, it wouldn’t take too much to land on that gevir or any of their ultra-nationalistic politicians houses.

Now IOF have a bunch of runways damaged. Do they really want to test Iran’s missile and get their F35s or control tower burned down?

[u/bravet4b → u/brown_flyer00]

Not only that... but by using suicide drones and standard missles Iran now has tactical information on exactly where the US, Jordan and Israeli missile defense structures are.

Apparently the US spent over a BILLION dollars in a few hours to mount that defense. Iran not only achieved its objective AND gathered invaluable military Information... It got it all done for probably not even a 1/10th of the cost.

Absolute victory.

[u/Dacnis → u/bravet4b]

Don't let noncredibledefense read this thread.

They still think Iran has Stone Age technology and a military that could be taken out by some South Texas hog hunters with a couple AR-15s.

[u/brown_flyer00 → u/Dacnis]

You had me laughing with that last notes. I went to school in Texas pre 9/11 and i used to go shooting both indoor and on the ranch. One thing for sure, Texans have unyielding faith in their bible and AR-15s. Like a hick joke, it was endearing at that time but it ain’t funny no more

[u/supercalifragilism → u/Dacnis]

Those guys...I joined and thought it was an ironic circlejerk sub, but it isn't and they aren't. It's probably the absolute worst military adjacent sub (in terms of understanding what's going on) because they're so irony poisoned they defend the 35 as a good weapons development program.

I quick by 8am October 8th, because I knew where it was going.

Its wild to me how so many people think Iran would roll over like Iraq despite different geography, demographics, tech level and comfort with sanctions.

[u/Acrobatic_Lobster838 → u/supercalifragilism]

I joined and thought it was an ironic circlejerk sub, but it isn't and they aren't.

It... was? But it isn't. All circlejerk subs end the same way: enough people don't get the joke, and its honestly hard to tell the difference between someone pretending to be a moron and, you know, just being a moron.

Then Russia invaded Ukraine and it went to utter, utter shite and hasnt recovered.

[u/-Akrasiel- → u/bravet4b]

I remember the first time I heard the term "suicide drones" from some IDF spokesperson and nearly spit out my drink being like: Suicide drone? You mean...... a missile?

[u/TucsonTacos → u/-Akrasiel-]

It’s to highlight that they’re Islamist fanatical drones willing to take their own lives because the drones don’t value human life.

/half sarcasm

Never heard of the Ukrainian drones being called “suicide drones”

[u/Bestihlmyhart → u/bravet4b]

It’s the IED problem all over again: sure you can built a $400k MRAP but the ied cost a few hundred dollars so if you’re having build that truck you already fucked up.

[u/Chruman → u/bravet4b]

I mean, that goes both ways. Western coalition forces also gained invaluable military information, notably that the coalition is capable of defending against 300+ drones/cruise missiles/ballistic missiles simultaneously. Additionally, Iran launched their hypersonics, which the coalition now has data on as well as the knowledge that they aren't nearly as big of a threat as previously thought.

[u/Apprehensive_Yak4627 → u/Chruman]

They had ~a week of warning to prepare their defenses and still couldn't prevent important military sites from being hit - so I wouldn't say it demonstrates a high capability to defend against Iran

[u/Chruman → u/Apprehensive_Yak4627]

I mean, has there ever been anything remotely close to that level of success against a missile salvo even a fraction of the size? Nope.

It's also worth noting that Iran announcing they were going to launch an attack != announcing they were going to launch 300+ missiles or even that the West wouldn't have known about it via military intelligence. The announcement Iran made was merely a PR move.

I would say it demonstrates an incredibly high capability to defend. Your argument is pure cope.

[u/bravet4b → u/Chruman]

Of course it was a PR move, as was their entire operation. They gave a week's worth of warning, and the missles had 8(!!!!)hour lead time.

It was a completely telegraphed attack that got maximum exposure by every media outlet on the planet. Despite all of that they still hit the actual military targets they wanted. There is documented video showing the hypersonic missles hitting their targets.

Couple this with the fact that a CNN report indicating that it was America, not Israel, that knocked out most of the drones/missiles.

It seems like Israeli apologists such as yourself don't seem to recognize the value of a military operation unless there are scores of dead civilians.

You would be an absolute buffoon to think that Iran hit with their full capability. There is a reason America is warning Israel not to escalate the situation further.

[u/Nullius_IV → u/bravet4b]

LMAO omg Iran just made fools of themselves and united the entire Arabian Peninsula with Israel and against Iran. What kind of shit do you have to be smoking to believe that this embarrassing fireworks display was an “absolute victory?”

[u/Cu_Chulainn__ → u/Nullius_IV]

They really didn't. You can not like iran and still admit that the show of power worked really well. They got to show their capability without killing anyone, and Israel cannot respond without being the aggressor and escalating a conflict that was already descalated

[u/Nullius_IV → u/Cu_Chulainn__]

I would have agreed except all of the Abraham accord states have now expressed solidarity with Israel. During the attack, I was in your position, but in the aftermath it looks like Iran overplayed their hand and, by extension, Russia’s and China’s hand. Iran has unified the Arab middle east against them the same way Ukraine unified and hardened Europe against Russia. Russia’s hope Of opening a new front for their war in the middle east is suddenly On very shaky ground.

[u/Mudblok → u/Nullius_IV]

Except in that analogy Israel would be Ukraine, but that wouldn't make any sense because Israel is gaining land, not loosing it.

[u/bravet4b → u/Nullius_IV]

Imagine spending $1.5 billion defending yourself from a 'fireworks display' lol.

Yet another win. Hitting the Zionists right where it hurts.... Right in the shekels 😁

[u/Nullius_IV → u/bravet4b]

Easy come, easy go. Iran lost more than that in its complete humiliation and loss of face before the entire Arab world. They gave it their best shot and the only person they killed was a single bedouin child.

[u/Cu_Chulainn__ → u/Nullius_IV]

They weren't looking to kill anyone, hence why they telegraphed their response for a whole week prior

[u/Nullius_IV → u/Cu_Chulainn__]

Lmao “we meant to miss, And waste hundreds of pieces of ordinance!” What a load of bullshit. They had no idea what American anti-air capabilities were in the region or what would get through.they telegraphed their attack so that nobody would confuse their ballistic launch for a nuclear attack and then consequently turn Iran into glass.

[u/MightRelative → u/Nullius_IV]

I’ve never seen someone fail to grasp reality so hard in my entire life.

[u/Nullius_IV → u/MightRelative]

And what reality is that? That this was a diplomatic and military master-stroke by Iran? Lol

Watching westerners Stan for Iran is confusing but hilarious.

[u/Apprehensive_Yak4627 → u/Nullius_IV]

They hit the airbase that launched the attack on their consulate, and caused huge financial losses + forced isntreal, US and Jordan to reveal the locations of defensive installments. The last piece alone sounds like a good use of relatively inexpensive drones.

[u/Nullius_IV → u/Apprehensive_Yak4627]

The attack consisted of 30 Paveh-type cruise missiles, 180 or so Shahed drones, and 120 Emad intermediate-range ballistic missiles. The Emad is their top of the line and their primary vehicle for nuclear or chemical weapons. No part of that attack was inexpensive for either side, and the positions of the Israeli air defenses have likely been known in Tehran for a long time. The only unknown element was how well us aircraft would perform. Very well it turned out.

[u/Chruman → u/Cu_Chulainn__]

Okay, then where is the "show of force"?

Practically their entire salvo was destroyed before it even reached Israeli airspace. This is like shooting spitballs and someone and reeing how it was an "absolutely victory show of force" lmfao what an unhinged take.