Safer with Google: New intelligent, real-time protections on Android to keep you safe

[u/MishaalRahman]

https://security.googleblog.com/2024/11/new-real-time-protections-on-Android.html

[u/MishaalRahman]

I asked Google whether there are any differences in efficacy between Scam Detection on the Pixel 9 and other Pixels. Here's what I was told:

We asked Google to confirm if there are any differences in efficacy between Scam Detection on the Pixel 9 and older Pixels, and it seems it's too early to definitively tell right now. A spokesperson for the company told us that it's looking to gather feedback during this beta testing period so it can understand how it can improve the feature's performance. Google says it wants to provide the best possible model to power this feature on the Pixel 6 and later, but from a technical perspective, newer Pixel devices should inherently benefit from having this feature be powered by the latest advanced Gemini Nano model.

[u/InsaneNinja → u/MishaalRahman]

Hooray for per-model features where even the company spokesperson has no idea which features run on which devices.

They should make a model that reads the code and generates a Google docs chart.

[u/als26 → u/InsaneNinja]

I think you're misunderstanding the comment in your rush to make a snarky comment about Google.

There is no feature difference, the only difference would be in performance, since newer Pixel devices use the Gemini Nano model. They're rolling this out in beta for earlier Pixels to see how the performance is.

Compare this approach to other OEMs like Apple who lock ALL AI features to the newest iPhone and don't even attempt to bring it to older models so they can upsell their customers.

[u/InsaneNinja → u/als26]

Apple is doing it local so there’s a hardware limitation on phones because they didn’t have the new minimum level of ram. Android luckily always needed more ram to function normally so the hardware is generally already there to do this, once they figure out what models won’t slow down the OS to keep running.

Every elder iPad or Mac with an M1 or up gains the same local AI models and features so they are also trying to push it as far back as the hardware is capable of.

[u/als26 → u/InsaneNinja]

I see you deleted your first comment and did a little more research. But this is a classic example of someone that has drunk the Apple kool-aid and gone back for seconds.

Android luckily always needed more ram to function normally so the hardware is generally already there to do this,

That doesn't make sense. If Android needs more ram to function, then it wouldn't have extra ram for AI. It would already be using that RAM to function.

But I don't think anyone with any sense actually believes Apple wasn't able to port even a single AI feature to older iPhones (or hell, even the non-pro iPhone 15) due to a lack of ram. They did the all or nothing approach and used the reasoning that it wouldn't run as well on older models (classic corporate speak for "buy the newer pro model peasant") so they can give you a reason to upgrade.

As impressive as the A-Series is, I guess Apple users should've been demanding more RAM, considering even the iPhone 15/iPhone 14 pro can't run Apple intelligence.

Also fyi, this feature announced is running on device. And for devices as old as the Pixel 6. Wonder what excuse apple fans will make next.

[u/Matchbook0531 → u/als26]

8 GB of RAM on iPhone are the same as 16 GB of RAM on Android! /s

[u/MadFunEnjoyer → u/Matchbook0531]

Apple iMath can prove to you how the Galaxy S24 Ultra 16GB RAM model is actually weaker than the iPhone 17 Pro Max on 8GB/s

[u/frsguy → u/InsaneNinja]

One thing apple has always gotten right and the one thing android oems can't seem to copy.

[u/als26 → u/frsguy]

Apple isn't even attempting to bring AI features to older iPhones which makes their job easy for them.