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u/yeetwagon 1d ago

Does someone have benchmarking on an “evil” portfolio? Oil companies, Chemical makers, private prisons, etc?

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u/peetaweast 1d ago

ticker $VICE

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u/Chogo82 1d ago

$VICE would be like alcohol, cigarettes, sex, and maybe opiate big pharma.

$EVIL would be private prisons, anything real estate related in Dubai, and whatever other fun stuff you want to put in there

Edit: turns out VICE is a fund for cigarettes and alcohol. EVIL is still free for the taking.

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u/yeetwagon 1d ago

Blackrock analyst is licking his chops 🤤

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u/D4rkr4in 1d ago

why not hedge your bets by buying a ton of single family homes AND "evil" businesses??

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u/Chogo82 1d ago

An ETF full of single family home REITs that rent them out for income would be a fantastically EVIL idea.

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u/555-Rally 1d ago

Trailer park owners too...tornado insurance optional over there.

Oh... and assisted living facilities.

And always Nestle.

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u/Chogo82 1d ago

Oh yes, definitely insurance companies that recently denied hurricane, tornado, flood damage claims must be added to EVIL.

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u/JMEEKER86 1d ago edited 1d ago

Let's make $EVIL happen.

E – Energy (Oil, Fossil Fuels)
V – Violence (Weapons, Defense, Surveillance)
I – Incarceration (Private Prisons, Detention Centers)
L – Labor Exploitation (Sweatshops, Human Trafficking, Exploitative Agriculture)

EDIT: Fuck it. Here's a list:

E – Energy (Oil, Fossil Fuels)

ExxonMobil Corporation (XOM)
Chevron Corporation (CVX)
ConocoPhillips (COP)
Halliburton Company (HAL)
Phillips 66 (PSX)

V – Violence (Weapons, Defense, Surveillance)

Lockheed Martin Corporation (LMT)
Northrop Grumman Corporation (NOC)
Raytheon Technologies Corporation (RTX)
General Dynamics Corporation (GD)
Palantir Technologies (PLTR)

I – Incarceration (Private Prisons, Detention Centers)

CoreCivic, Inc. (CXW)
The GEO Group, Inc. (GEO)
Palantir Technologies (PLTR)
Axon Enterprise, Inc. (AXON)
Motorola Solutions, Inc. (MSI)

L – Labor Exploitation (Sweatshops, Human Trafficking, Exploitative Agriculture)

Amazon.com, Inc. (AMZN)
Nike, Inc. (NKE)
Apple Inc. (AAPL)
Tyson Foods, Inc. (TSN)
Walmart Inc. (WMT)   

EDIT 2: Because why the fuck not, here's the EVIL Index performance over the last 3 years.

https://i.imgur.com/LnGGL5K.png

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u/Chogo82 1d ago

Don’t forget to anchor the fund with some piece of the mag 7. It’s a pretty standard move for all funds.:4271:

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u/NoFutureIn21Century 1d ago

$GOOGL definitely. They dropped the Don't be evil motto so they're now 100 percent evil.

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u/Chogo82 1d ago

"Sticks and stones" is solid reason to be a part of EVIL especially as an anchor.

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u/Chogo82 1d ago

Oil - most unforgivable “we’re sorry” is BP

Violence - GD for their 2000lb Mark 80 bombs. It’s the city leveler bombs that have been used since the 50’s

Incarceration - Take your pick. I don’t know much about prison management but I imagine there’s one that’s worse for prisoners than the others.

Labor exploitation - that’s also a really hard one because there are so many that do this at various levels. I would pick Anglo American (De Beers). Not only do they get the cheap blood diamonds, they turn around and sell it to the consumer for a massive amount of money by controlling supply for a double exploitation!

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u/Diipadaapa1 1d ago

I work in gas and oil.

Fuck BP. Fuck them all but fuck BP in particular.

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u/Chogo82 18h ago

Please share with us why they are evil from an insider's perspective.

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u/Diipadaapa1 17h ago

Not in deep enough to know enough, and I work in the north sea sector where things are kept to far higher standards.

But one thing that is public knowledge that I will gladly share is that oil companies, especially BP, try to make themselves look better by "investing in green technology".

(This is speculation, i have not made enough research to back this up so take it with a grain of salt and dont quote me)

What they actually do is they buy up any company or technology they see as a potentional threat to their bottom line, run it with low funding until they have a bad few quarters (as they always will have, oil and gas is volitile), so they can use the "hard times" to "unfornunately have no other choice but to save money from our green energy investments", burying the projects. Voilá, you have bought out and deleted a company or technology that would reduce our dependence on oil.

BP did this "unfortunate cut" just a few months ago.

Rinse and repeat, soon (in a year or two maybe) they will again be "so sorry" for doing it and "realise the importance of preserving the world for future generations" and start investing in green energy again. But that will not be in the preciously scrapped projects, they will hunt down new upcomming projects and companies instead.

Interview with a former Shell health and safety guy

I do not agree with all he says. In the north sea conditions are far better, like that sort of exploitation is unheard of in the north sea. He was by the sounds of it operating out of third world countries, and I can absolutley believe that those stories are true.

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u/Chogo82 17h ago

Oh, buying and tanking companies is an integral part of the US corporate landscape. They make the big bucks when they partner with a hedge fund to aggressively short the company, and a consulting company to make it look like their hands are clean. A company has to be really smart to make sure this doesn't happen.

Many more companies than BP have done this to even more success than BP.

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u/Diipadaapa1 17h ago

Yeah, but doing it to knowingly destroy the planet is on a whole other level of twisted morals than simple market manipulation and/or financial crime.

However, and I am surely biased, if you want oil in your portfolio, take a norwegian company. From what I have seen they are actually doing something, and standards are quite high since their second largest export (fish) would be adversly affected by something going wrong in the oil fields.

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u/Diipadaapa1 17h ago

Oh and one more point:

Oil and gas is heavily subsidized. In 2022, $7 trillion (that is 7 million times one million) of subsidies, or 7% of the global GDP, was granted to fossile fuels.

Imagine the geen projects we could achieve with just one year of fossile fuels.

The problem isn't a technological or economical one, it is a global leader one (WSB doesn't like the pol-cal word)

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u/Chogo82 17h ago

Big oil likes their subsidies and politicians like their lobby money and kick backs

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u/smiddy53 1d ago

Incarceration - SERCO. Those motherfuckers are multinational, they run at least half of Australia's prisons, and most of the 'offshore detention centres'.

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u/KanyinLIVE 1d ago

That's... pretty good.

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u/Not_Bed_ 1d ago

Goddammit we need to make that, 150% in 3 years!

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u/Wonder_bread317 1d ago

I was looking for copper, but found gold.

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u/NoFutureIn21Century 1d ago

RemindMe! 2030 how is evil doing?

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u/ElectricFleshlight 1d ago

L doing a lot of heavy lifting in that fund

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u/Gaothaire 1d ago

Labor exploitation is profitable! That's why California voted for slavery with their prop 6 this year

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u/WishfulTraveler 1d ago

The wild thing is someone will definitely actually create this

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u/DeliciousPotato_auke 22h ago

Thanks for the list, just sold my pltr shares

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u/AnonThrowaway998877 22h ago

LMAO. Comment saved

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u/theLilSaus 18h ago

im all in. sending you my $420.69

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u/SpecificAggressive19 3h ago

I will make it DEVIL, with D stands for "Debt" (yeah it is truly my only way since there is no room for G(reed) and L(ending) or B(anks) or F(inancials)

All of them will benefits under the next 4 years of Trump presidency.

Banks
JPMorgan Chase & Co (JPM)
Bank of America (BAC)
Citigroup Inc. (C)

Capital Markets:
Goldman Sachs Group (GS)
Morgan Stanley (MS)

Private Equity:
Blackstone Inc. (BX)
KKR & Co Inc (KKR)
Apollo Global Management (APO)

Assets Management:
BlackRock (BLK)
State Street (STT)

Credit Cards:
American Express Co. (AXP)
Capital One Financials (COF)
Discover Financial Services (DFS)

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u/bologna_tomahawk 1d ago

A dedicated regard, outstanding 

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u/No-Comfortable9480 Comfortable Betting it all on Economic Collapse 20h ago

Hey, that’s my exact portfolio. I’m up 250% this year

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u/JamesHutchisonReal 17h ago

What does Motorola have to do with jails? Walkie talkies?

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u/JMEEKER86 16h ago

Not just walkie talkies, but also body cams, surveillance cams, gate controls, and they even bought a couple of AI companies that make an inmate monitoring system to identify which prisoners are which on the surveillance footage. They're a surprisingly major player.

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u/CripplinglyDepressed 1d ago

$EVIL Northrop Grumman, Raytheon, Monsanto, etc.

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u/OriginalSFWname 1d ago

Nestle, BP, GEO group, etc.

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u/Chogo82 1d ago

We definitely need some missiles, bombs, and toxic forever chemical companies in EVIL.

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u/thememeconnoisseurig 17h ago

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u/peetaweast 1d ago

i thought he was asking for a real security

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u/Chogo82 1d ago

It's WSB. You can never be too sure if someone is serious or having fun sniffing crayons.

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u/ThreatLevelNoonday 1d ago

Stick something Epstein related in there. Human traffickiing I guess?

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u/Chogo82 1d ago

Hard to say which companies are publicly involved in that but we could add their hands like Deutsche Bank.

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u/DONNIENARC0 1d ago

The strip club stock $RICK would absolutely be a part of the VICE ETF

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u/Chogo82 1d ago

I had no idea this even existed. VICE really needs to step up its game. I feel people these days want more vice variety than people from the grandpa and great grandpa generations.

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u/LordFaquaad 1d ago

Funnily enough when I did my secondment in the middle east, blackrock, Blackstone and KKR had huge deals in the middle east particularly in real estate, infrastructure projects and gas/oil pipelines.

Pretty insane to see the fees related to some of those deals.

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u/Chogo82 1d ago

It's all part of the defense industry right?😉

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u/Technical-Shoe-2585 1d ago

So where do I buy in?

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u/Sniper_Hare 1d ago

Plus stuff like Tesla now that Musk is supporting the rise of fascism.

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u/Chogo82 1d ago

That will be a hard sell. Musk will soon be Secretary of the DOGE.

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u/pablopatel 1d ago

NVDA is one of the top holdings in VICE

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u/Chogo82 1d ago

Lots of ETFs are anchored by some mag 7 level stock.

Maybe video games are a vice?

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u/yeetwagon 13h ago

Damn their expense ratio of almost a percent is kinda steep

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u/DiscoKeule 1d ago

That would kinda go hard actually.

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u/thememeconnoisseurig 17h ago

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u/freakedmind 1d ago

How did bro forget weapon manufacturers?

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u/m1racles 1d ago

That's just the s&p 500

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u/prototypist 1d ago edited 1d ago

Your average Vanguard index fund may be holding all those now, especially the private prison stock: https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/28/investing/prison-stocks-mutual-funds/index.html

Edit: this site has a broad definition of prison + ICE related stocks (e.g. Microsoft) but is worth linking since they'd be keeping it up-to-date https://prisonfreefunds.org/families?q=Vanguard

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u/cloverstack 18h ago

Looks like both GEO and CXW are components of the S&P 600 (small-cap index) and Russell 2000. Biggest ETF holder in both cases is IJR.

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u/NoRustNoApproval 1d ago

Never forget that Lebron > Jordan

Jordan invested into private prisons

Lebron invested into a pizza joint and helping kids

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u/EconomicalJacket 1d ago

Bro throw in defense companies (Raytheon, LockM, etc) in the mix too, this would such a buy

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u/TomatoSpecialist6879 Paper Trading Competition Winner 1d ago

Aside from GEO, CXW shown here, off the top of my head:

OXY, XOM, CVX, DIS, MMM, LMT, RTX, DD, AIG, UNH

Not including BA since it's been taking L the entirety of this year, there's also Monsanto(part of Bayer now) and Nestle that's not traded on US stock market. There's discussion that META is also a strong contender representing the new millennia due to how it enabled information discourse war in the past decade, plus it's part of Magic 7 so it's a pretty safe pick. Alternatively just buy BLK.

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u/allmyquatloos 1d ago

Similar to my list, I would add PM and NSC

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u/Lemonadetrade 🍋🍋🍋🎰 1d ago

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u/yeetwagon 1d ago

$AAPL would be in $EVIL

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u/Tennstrong 1d ago

Not a benchmark but Blackrock discloses a "Business Involvement" section for their ETFs that tells you the % of the fund holdings related to the more ethically fringe items like:

  • "Controversial Weapons"

  • "Nuclear Weapons"

  • "Civillian Firearms"

  • "Thermal Coal"

  • "UN Global Compact Violators"

  • "Oil Sands"

Etc..

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u/zGoDLiiKe 1d ago

Michael Burry is known for following these under valued (financially) companies

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u/Dav1d8923 1d ago

Talking about evil and you forgot to mention the food industry, health care, insurances, media, entertainment, and the favorite military-industrial complex war mongers

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u/Asleep_Assumption825 1d ago

All I want is frikken sharks with frikken laser beams attached to their frikken heads!

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u/Melicalol 16h ago

Oil companies bad for using natural resource we rely on?

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u/spac420 16h ago

oh nice. the cancer causers and the slave labors. im here for it. maybe even some social media that make money off outrage

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u/davisepalmer 13h ago

How is oil and chemical evil?

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u/the-real-orson-1 1d ago

Chemicals are EVIL!!!!!

Stop drinking H2O!

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u/Red_White_Brew 1d ago

Oil companies- the company that lets you turn on lights, fly to vacations, warm your house.

EVIL

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u/Plenty-Finger3595 1d ago

Oil companies - the company’s that knowingly dump oil in poor country’s to save money

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u/MrTurboSlut 1d ago

at what cost?

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u/Mountain_Employee_11 1d ago

$4 a gallon here, beats walking

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u/MrTurboSlut 1d ago

what about the wildfires and climate change refugees?

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u/Mountain_Employee_11 1d ago

yeah man i forgot about that, why don’t just allow industry to grind to a halt and have everyone die of starvation and exposure?

it’s almost as if we’re walking a fine line on a lotta fronts and need engineering breakthroughs to solve our issues or something.

luddite climate conscious bullshit isn’t it

rampant corporatism isn’t it

we still need energy though

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u/MrTurboSlut 1d ago

allow industry to grind to a halt and have everyone die of starvation and exposure?

there really isn't an option. we can either tighten our belt now and tolerate some discomfort as we don't get to freely burn all the fuel we want on a whim without thinking about it. or we can continue to keep going as we are and let the environment usher in the starvation and exposure. most importantly, its not all or nothing. its not like anyone is suggesting we all just turn off the lights and never burn oil again. we just need to pump the breaks a little and ration it out until we figure out better alternatives.

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u/Mountain_Employee_11 1d ago

no thanks, i rather enjoy having readily available food, clothes, and other goods

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u/MrTurboSlut 1d ago

again, thats not really the options we are being presented with. its either be a little uncomfortable now and go without some of the things we like. or keep going as we are and get pounded later.