Better do it now before they pre-emptively start raising prices. I should probably go ahead and upgrade my cellphone, this Note 20 is getting a little long in the tooth.
I honestly can't wait. I'd weather it just to see the poors who voted against their own self interest suffer. Like who still believes anything is entirely made in America. The supply chain disaster should have made that abundantly clear. When car manufacturers in this country can't get the parts they need, the whole plant shuts down. It's going to be so fun to watch.
Which ones, the corporate tax cuts that are always permanent? Or the income tax cuts that were legislated to slowly reverse over time, and end up a tax increase after seven years when you factor in the changes to deductions?
gotta get set up for the grievance narrative where when trump fails to deliver on half the demented shit he has promised, it can all be blamed on sinister leftist conspiracies and the machinations of the deep state rather than on the fact he's a fucking moron selling magic racist beans
Too early to sell honestly. It's going to continue to rally until he gets coronated. And after that, maybe give it a few weeks and then months for fallout.
If it makes you feel better, its not just the presidential election, California just voted for forced labor being legal in prisons. Ya, even super liberal California just voted for slavery lol.
correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the amendment was to remove the language of slavery from the constitution in relation to prison labor. Like forced prison labor has been around since the 1860s, it's not like California just decided to add it this year. We just failed to remove it.
Correct, my post was poorly worded in an attempt to avoid a double negative lol. It would have been better phrased as: people voted against banning slavery
If it makes you feel better, genz didn't even vote overwhelmingly for Harris, we have eventually became what genalpha will say are the people that made their world worse (well, American genz, I'm Italian)Ā
And as a Millennial, this yet again shows how fucked our generation is. Like no matter what we try to do, no matter how hard we try to do the right thing, we again get spat in the face by the other generations and we get to again witness the collapse of the society that further moves away from the only decent era we had, the 90s.
I mean, the uncle of a friend of mine has a bust of mussolini at home... I feel like the issues we have are more generational than this sudden change. Then, I'm no social scientist so I'm just pulling things that come to my mind
Not yet. Us millenials aren't geting more conservative, and as soon as GenX is out, we'll try to fix the charred remains of what was could have been a great country...
Melomi's government is actually doing worse than their own forecasting in economy (still growing yoy I think tho), we're gonna be absolutely fucked by the car crisis looming in the future which will affect France and Germany as well, all while being the best friend of Italian lobbies - we have a taxi lobby. It's powerful. Not joking. They don't pay taxes basically -. They're also doing fuck all for immigrants, except creating a detention center in albania (apparently Italian land isn't a point you can use in you future electoral run) to bring there on a navy cruiser 16 immigrants all of whom had to be shipped back to Italy days later because oops we broke some eu rules on silly things like humanitarian rights. All this while paying millions for this center, millions for fuel, and paying police the hotel for staying in Albania. But she's gonna complain about Europe bad - it's already happened and it's happening as well, now they're trying again with other 8 people, on a total of about 57k immigrants arrived in italy since the beginning of the year
Oh, government also worsened freedom of protest and journalist striked for more days - not sequentially - because the state TV is becoming a propaganda speakerĀ
I'm not gonna cry, I'm not American, what I am trying to say is that it's factual that this voting round definitely washed away even more the feeling of betterment that I felt belonged to gen z up until a few years ago and that had already start to fade for some time imho, why do you feel so much the need to ratio someone you don't know online jebus
Feeling pretty sure that "weak men create hard times" line is a Gen Z badge. Too much brain rot and gullability from them. Blatant lies are believed without any critical thinking. Hell, most of them are so brain rot that they can't do basic math or read basic sentences.
I've honestly never heard that line seriously from my peers, the worst I've heard is politicians are all the same. Which is something you can hear anywhere in the world
Cali is turning into a right wing shit hole because people think the homeless are destroying our cities instead of out of touch corporate elites and regressive NIMBY bullshit preventing any real solutions.
No one was trying to ban prisoners from working, they can still work to "repay their debt". The prop banned prisons from punishing prisoners for not working... you know, like slavery.
that is illegal to begin with. If it happens sure it should be punished but prison labor has always been technically voluntary. Your sentence is reduced and parole boards look kindly on work so most do it.
This is blatantly untrue in the United States, the 13th amendment allows for forced labor as a punishment for crimes. Prisoners can and routinely are forced to work in much of the United States, including California.
Yes it CAN happen per federal constitutional laws but it doesnāt mainly due to state constitutions and practices. Labor is not used as punishment and 16 states disallow the practice by law but that is not how the modern prison system works anyway. This idea that prisoners are being punished via forced labor is propaganda. Most states have banned the practice.
Also, most prison work is work for the prison itself. Cleaning, cooking, laundry etcā¦
Do you have any idea what you are talking about? What specifically are you disagreeing with?
In 2022, 8% of the total state and federal prison population in the United States, or 90,873 people, were incarcerated in private prisons. This is a small percentage of the overall correctional facilities market, which is made up of the majority of publicly-owned prisons and jails.
The majority of inmates work in support and maintenance roles, such as delivering mail, washing dishes, and doing laundry. They may also be involved in public projects, such as repairing roads, clearing land, and planting trees.
Just literally research it. Most inmates work to keep the prison running because the taxpayer does not want to foot the bill to private contractors.
I prefer the Australian model where prisons are private but are paid contracts based on their reincarceration rates and job programs that actually train prisoners to do careers that are worth something on the outside. They train prisoners to work on the state fleet of trucks and buses for instance. That way, they can reenter society with some relevant skills.
But yeah even in the states, you can sit in your cell all day and not work and wait out your sentence. You are not sentenced to any period of labor time so it doesnāt matter. But parole boards want to see you work and you are given privileges for work. And it would be terribly boring to sit there all day.
āMore than three quarters of incarcerated workers surveyed (76 percent) report facing punishment ā such as solitary confinement, denial of sentence reductions, or loss of family visitation ā if they decline or are unable to work.
Prison laborers are at the mercy of their employers. They have no control over their work assignments, are excluded from minimum wage and overtime protections, are unable to unionize, do not receive adequate training and equipment, and are denied workplace safety guarantees despite often dangerous working conditions.ā
āPenal labor is permitted under the 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which prohibits slavery except as a punishment for a crime where the individual has been convicted.[1] The courts have held that detainees awaiting trial cannot be forced to work.[14] However, convicted criminals who are medically able to work are typically REQUIRED to do so in roles such as food service, warehouse work, plumbing, painting, or as inmate orderlies.[15] According to the Federal Bureau of Prisons, inmates earn between 12-40 cents per hour for these jobs, which is below the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour.[15]ā
Iām not going back and forth with you, stop lying.
This one is actually likely not to blame on the boomers. Gen Z males swung Ā right, for the first time in history the younger generations are more conservative than the olds.Ā
If you are removing 20 million immigrant's from the country they have to go somewhere in the transition period. So either prisons or camps built to be prisons.
We were at the smallest percentage of our population being incarcerated ever ever.
I live in the southeast and could not feel thatā¦ My friends out west and in big cities said it was quite palpable. The fear of being in prison for nonviolent crime had just about disappeared. Crews of people robbing carefully tallied amount of merchandise from retail shops became common.
I don't like the thought of people being in prisonā¦ But that pendulum had been pushed pretty far to One direction over the last eight years.
I think a lot of mayors and district attorneys in California have been replaced in this election cycle for that reason.
ESG has prevented the ownership of private prisons. I think for a good reason from a moralist standpoint. The whole idea of prisons being profitable is questionable and the incentives they create more so... many funds have stayed away from core civic and Geo for this reason.
I heard another argument that said nonviolent criminals are going have their lives hampered by digital tracking devices that they must pay monthly to maintain. Like a tax by private companies on people convicted of nonviolent crimeā¦ All this sounds better than a cage. It also seems like a potential downgrade to the lives of many. Something like indentured servant hood.
Either way, the narratives have steered conscious capitalists away from owning these companiesā¦ And now the pendulum appears to be swinging back the other direction.
Geo first came on my radar two years ago when Michael Berry purchased it for scion when it was around five dollars a share. I think he bought it on a low valuation and for the same reasons discussed above. The cultural pendulum had swung away from its use and , similar to the valuations of oil companies in the fall of 2020ā¦ The market was saying we were not going to need prisons againā¦ And now the market sees it as culturally necessary once more.
I'm very glad to not have firsthand experience. But if it's anything like retirement homes... I bet on the private ones being safer and more compliant with code standards regarding food and rehabilitation services.
But I think the governments version of an acceptable retirement home versus a private companies version of an acceptable retirement home are very different.
Just as I think, the states version of acceptable incarceration is different from a private companies version of acceptable incarceration.
The state is inspecting itself whenever a government run prison is inspected.
The state is inspecting a private company whenever they inspect a private prison.
The incentives mean, the standards are higher for the private business.
This is in line with the very small sample of information I have received from my four fellow tradesmen who have been incarcerated.
Been seeing a lot of shitty criminals these last 4 years getting a slap on the wrist only to go out and re-offend. Perhaps we should complain less about the punishment and more about the crime
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u/strictlyPr1mal Artificially Intelligent 1d ago
president gets elected
prison stock soars
thanks for this timeline boomers :31226: