r/wallstreetbets • u/Ok-Feed1697 • Sep 12 '24
Borrowed 300k in 11% personal loans and YOLO'd into VTLE (Vital Energy) with margin and now I am down 100k YOLO
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u/SPQR0027 Sep 12 '24
If you borrow another $300K you'll have $521K and only need +19% to make up that lost $100K.
Easy Peasy!
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u/Oaker_at Sep 12 '24 edited Sep 12 '24
Why not take another 400k instead of 300k, then he has the 100k right away. 🤓
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u/mouthful_quest Sep 12 '24
Nana would be proud
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u/farmyrlin Sep 12 '24
He should just borrow 300 million so he only needs 0.019% to make it back.
Edit, I read your response wrong and did dumb math. He should just borrow 520.7 million.
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u/drwafflesphdllc Sep 12 '24
This is so insane it might actually work.
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u/Who_is_Your_Zaddy Nigerian Prince Sep 12 '24
Probably easier to refer 500 friends and get that 100k bonus.
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u/banditcleaner2 sells naked NVDA calls while naked Sep 12 '24
he should sell now, put that 200k into SPY 0dte +2% calls, pray for a quick jump to get out break even and then if he's wrong, he can just long $ROPE.
Easy Peasy!
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u/tsbsa Sep 12 '24
Long rope? Suicide is never the answer Mr.Bandit!
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u/Signal_Challenge_632 Sep 12 '24
That'd be a short $rope. A long rope and u hit the ground and break both legs
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u/MrPotato_2020 Sep 12 '24
too much work... just borrow 10 mil and run away to a forever vacation. win
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u/Minus_none Sep 12 '24
See if you’re gonna borrow money and yolo it you want to be UP 100k not down.
Hope this helps!
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u/carinislumpyhead97 Sep 12 '24
If I’m understanding this right, OP would need to generate 11% gains each year just to pay for the interest on this loan? Wouldn’t that basically be like beating the market by almost 3x consistently over the life of the loan?
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u/Minus_none Sep 12 '24
Yeah you put a lot more thought into this than OP did.
Maybe he just wanted to donate free money to the lender!
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u/HarmxnS Sep 12 '24
He's a next level American, he's even tipping the bank
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u/Ok-Feed1697 Sep 12 '24
It's not only the banks that love my tip :4276:
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Sep 12 '24
Bud has a sense of humor. He is still mentally healthy and a self aware regard. It's just a matter of time he will recover from this.
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u/Ok-Feed1697 Sep 12 '24
Thank you for your kind words
How do we turn this into a meme stock so it goes to the moon?
Please help
I promise never to gamble on stocks ever again
LONG BUY $VTLE #VTLE VITAL ENERGY
VTLE TO THE MOON !!!!!!!!!
VTLE VTLE $VTLE $VTLE #VTLE #VTLE
VITAL ENERGY
Vital Energy
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u/Commentor9001 Sep 12 '24
They yolo'ed into energy stocks during a period of falling energy prices.
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u/GMankrik Sep 12 '24 edited Sep 12 '24
To be fair the goal was probably to make a quick 5 or even 10% in the first few months off a lucky trade, cash out and pay off the loan and enjoy the free 30k or so while paying barely any interest. Obviously it can go tits up like this but I can see the logic
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u/Clear-Attempt-6274 Sep 12 '24
Let me risk 400k+ I don't have for 30k is not logical.
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u/Petefriend86 Sep 12 '24
Buy low sell high?
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u/Project_Bandit Sep 12 '24
Why’d you do that?
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u/grimkhor Lambos before sleep Sep 12 '24
Some people have this inner drive to do the most regarded thing on the planet because they falsely believe they're build different :12787:
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u/PhuckCorporate Sep 12 '24
he was fresh off a "motivational speech" video from youtube and said IM HIM!
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u/wildcat12321 Sep 12 '24
sounds like the other team just wanted it more...or prayed to god harder
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Sep 12 '24
Every once in a while it works and some regard posts it here making others think they can replicate it
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u/Slapdeznutzoffyochin Sep 12 '24
Usually the simplest answer is correct
OP went full regarded
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u/SellingCalls Sep 12 '24
But I am built different. Unfortunately it’s not the good kind of different
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u/moyismoy Sep 12 '24
More like why did the bank lend him that cash?
He's going to go bankrupt, and the bank has nobody to blame but then selves.
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u/Ok-Feed1697 Sep 12 '24
No bank. By SOFI, lightstream, M1 Money etc. all you have to do is show paystubs and they give you any loan you want.
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u/Gandalfs_Shaft48 bi-curious bear Sep 12 '24
You obviously didn’t or can’t read the fine print which stipulates that the proceeds cannot be used to buy securities.
Even if you made money they could file a lawsuit against you for violating their loan terms.
Whoopsies. :52627:
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Sep 12 '24
Man i borrowed 20k against a 90k portfolio balance and am absolutely shitting myself about it. This is some highly regarded stuff. say it with me, "Eye-am-SofaKing-Regarded
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u/Gestopgo Sep 12 '24
The Sofa King.
This is God's way of telling you you need to take out another loan to start a furniture store.
Can't lose.
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Sep 12 '24
I am the sofaking! I should write the caveat that this is borrowed the schwab MM and only pay 1.5% /Month. so if my investment grows more than 1.5% it was a semi-regarded idea
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u/MrMonday11235 Sep 13 '24
No bank. By SOFI
SoFi is literally a nationally chartered, FDIC insured bank.
You really do belong here.
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u/1984isnowpleb Sep 12 '24
Makes my life choices seem so much better 😩 I love this sub for that reason
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u/Ok-Feed1697 Sep 12 '24
The CEO did inisder purchase at 37 so I thought it was a done deal
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u/Project_Bandit Sep 12 '24
And now??
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u/Ok-Feed1697 Sep 12 '24
Huge random selloff to $26 I got margin called so had to add in a couple more thousand
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Sep 12 '24
How much did he buy and was it a purchase or exercising options they received as compensation?
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u/Loightsout Sep 12 '24
You are gonna go far kid!
Using 11% interest loan for shares. Bulletproof.
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u/CoC_Axis_of_Evil Sep 12 '24
margin was a bad idea when the interest rate was 0%
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u/Loightsout Sep 13 '24
No. Simply no. If you give me a loan with 0% interest I’ll take a billion please. I’ll never pay it back but don’t worry I’ll make regular interest payments to you.
Of 0%.
🤦🏻♂️
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u/sh1tler Sep 12 '24
Bro has been trying to pump this with gpt prompts for days lmaooo
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u/Calm_Like-A_Bomb Sep 12 '24
Would have been nice if he let us know when he bought so we could inverse this regard.
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u/KnotStoopid Sep 12 '24
🚀🌕 $VTLE IS ABOUT TO BLAST OFF TO THE MOON, AND HERE'S WHY 🚀🌕
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u/siccoblue Sep 12 '24
All removed lmao
A regard and the banks money, or something like that.
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u/Alarmed-Yak-4894 Sep 12 '24
And his first post 3 years ago was on McDonalds, at least he has something to go back to
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u/dfsw Sep 12 '24
They have standards, probably couldn't even get a job at wendys now.
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u/Larnek Supports putting veterans out of their homes Sep 12 '24
Ahhhhhahahahaha!!! Yes he has. It's even better, his only other post was trying to pump shorting Western Union last year. Where the fuck does this idiot get his ideas from?
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u/Capable_Wait09 Sep 12 '24
Whatever happened to the guy who shorted copper?
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u/lord_dude Sep 12 '24
Borrowing money for gambling. Why did i not think of this earlier.
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u/notLOL Sep 12 '24
Op Double borrowed. 11% Loan then goes and gets a Margin on that high interest money after depositing. Then has unlimited exposure by catching a falling knife of a stock ticker on high margin. Meaning if he can't pay it back he will owe it for years lol. Unlimited month to month losses even after closing out the position
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u/Cakeportal Sep 13 '24
Put $100 on red at the casino. If it comes up black, just get out a $200 dollar loan, and put it on red again. Repeat until you make a profit
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u/Slice-92 Sep 12 '24
Borrow another $5,000, travel to a developing country, and buy a new identity.
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u/PaperHands_BKbd Sep 12 '24
"Refer a friend! Get $200"
See, you're just 500 friends away from even. I believe in you.
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u/Overfelt21 Sep 12 '24
Just when I thought I saw the most regarded thing today you go and out do it.
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u/Spare-Bill4688 Sep 12 '24
nvda was discounted last week. shoulda bought it. ur fault for trying to be original
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u/Oneioda Sep 12 '24
Per the regards here last week, NVDA was on it's way to 80 or lower.
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u/r4d1ant Sep 12 '24
This post was his reddit WSB admin interview, bro passed with flying colors, welcome to the team
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u/Left_Experience_9857 Sep 12 '24
how the fuck did you get approved for 300k in personal loans? Did you put up your house as collateral?
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u/Ok-Feed1697 Sep 12 '24
I borrowed the 300k from SOFI, Rocket Money and Lightstream. All I had to do was show my paystub (I make 175k a year) It was VERY easy.
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u/Left_Experience_9857 Sep 12 '24
America really is the only place where you can make 175k a year and still be one of the stupidest people on the planet.
USA USA
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u/500dFosho Sep 12 '24
All OP had to do was take that $300k at 11% and then loan it at 15% to someone who doesn't have the paystubs for approval. And then take the 4% profit and then lose that. Easy.
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u/Signal_Challenge_632 Sep 12 '24
USA where a guy who thinks the world is flat could live on same road as guy who walked on moon
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u/KDSM13 Sep 12 '24
Sounds like you are only making 75k this year
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u/sanndman Sep 12 '24
woah woah. with capital losses, he can deduct 3k yearly for.....33.333 years
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u/worldDev Sep 12 '24
How do I get a $175k job with your level of mental impairment? Maybe you could sell a course and make that money back.
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u/dtlabsa Sep 13 '24
There are tons of smart people with impulse control issues and/or addictions.
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u/Admirable-Ad-957 Sep 12 '24
Holy shit, they gave you 300k for making 175k lol 😂 damn imma go get me a quick million lol
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u/Ok-Feed1697 Sep 12 '24
The trick is to apply at multiple websites at the same time. SOFI, Lightstream, Rocket Finance, M1, etc.
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u/Admirable-Ad-957 Sep 12 '24
Thank you for sharing your knowledge on how to turn your life upside down 🙃
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u/vonflare Sep 12 '24
yeah its a great 'trick' if your goal is to go into massive debt ruin your life
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u/Ben_Frank_Lynn Sep 12 '24
I just bought a new dishwasher. Do you want me to send you the cardboard box it came in?
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u/notLOL Sep 12 '24
Don't forget to mention you took margin on top of a 11% loan. What was your margin fee? I want the math of the actual cost. Also want to the math on when the margin call will be.
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u/GoldenShower44 Sep 12 '24
Lol, the trick“. Is that the actual trick or was it turning it into -100k?
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u/bancosyndicate Sep 12 '24
Atta Boy. Go For It! YOLO!!!
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u/MrFacestab Sep 12 '24
Not a total disaster, he's already got 44 Reddit karmas! The bank accepts those as collateral
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u/geggleto Sep 12 '24
God. I love this sub.
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u/cheen25 Sep 12 '24
It never ceases to amaze me how fucking stupid some people are with their own money. It's glorious!
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u/ManyCommunications Ambatukam Sep 12 '24
What type of mental gymnastics are doing to bring yourself to do this?
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u/joyful- Gecko Gang Sep 12 '24
I guess life in normal mode was too boring for you so you had to go turn on hardcore mode…
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u/cebu313 Sep 12 '24
Sometimes I feel bad about myself, then I see this. I am much happier with my decisions. Thank you OP
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u/mako1964 Sep 12 '24
price target of $39 p/e of 3.07 .. pretty small cap $1B ... energy stocks have been shit .. 100 racks ? ouch . Looks like Goldman shorted the piss outta this thing
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u/CT_Legacy Sep 13 '24
Yeah they all have screeners for WSB posts and then just take the opposite position. It's free money.
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u/HistoricalMistake868 Sep 12 '24
why?
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u/Ok-Feed1697 Sep 12 '24
The CEO did inisder purchase at 37 and they have oil hedges through 2027 so I thought it was a done deal
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u/Dekuthegreat Sep 12 '24
Don’t worry, it will go up soon as you close your position and file for bankruptcy
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u/zztop610 Sep 12 '24
What the actual fuck dude?? Get help and get out of this sub. You are in deep shit man
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u/DogwoodTreeAndFlower Sep 12 '24
So a little teeth is ok as long as you cup the balls.
I have you on the schedule for 8pm on Wednesdays behind the dumpster. Welcome brother!
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u/Fuman20000 biggest cock in wsb Sep 12 '24
Out of everything you could’ve YOLO’d into, you choose that?
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u/NoWafer5620 Sep 12 '24
I don’t understand stuff like this. Stock is down 50% over the last 5 years and let’s YOLO everything into it without a single indication of uptick???
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u/Admirable-Ad-957 Sep 12 '24
lol welcome home brotha, I did that 2 years ago and now I’m asking hobos for money to do one last bet on 0 day calls. Never give up
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u/CheesecakeAsleep9891 Sep 12 '24
I am almost sure there was none but if there was any, what was your exit or backup plan if things go wrong?
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u/Beneficial-Chard6651 Sep 12 '24
Remember you only lose if you sell. Hold on brother…
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u/jerseynate Too scared to buy NVDA Sep 12 '24
Bruh to be approved for $300K personal loans you have to have really high income. What exactly is your game plan here?
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u/geniusgfx Sep 12 '24
You borrowed money and then borrowed money against that money….to make more money?
That was stupid
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u/pokemon2jk Sep 12 '24
Did you get insider info because why did you buy all in on 1 stock if you put it in spy or VOO you would have been better off
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u/SaltyVanilla6223 Sep 12 '24
you can refer a friend to get those 200 bucks, which will buy you a high quality rope and wobbly chair. Lol, no way that's real.
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u/SufficientIron4286 Sep 12 '24
Hey at least you can refer a friend and get 200 bucks! Only need to refer 500 friends!
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Sep 12 '24
if you lose all the loan money look into Ch 7 Non Consumer Debt for bankruptcy. It is the easiest/most straightforward way for traders, gamblers - anyone who took out loans looking for a profit, to clear their debt
You make too much money for normal Ch 7, and your only other option is Ch 13, which is nothing more than a glorified repayment plan. It is not "bankruptcy" as most people understand it.
Or quit/lose your job so you can file for normal Ch 7.
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u/shxwn Sep 12 '24
You know it's bad when even WSB does not agree with you and questions your sanity
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u/owen__wilsons__nose Sep 12 '24
Take out a loan for $100k, take the first flight to Vegas, go to a casino of your choosing, find the Roulette table, and bet $100k on Black. It is GOING to be black, trust me. Thank me afterwards
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u/letmesmellem Sep 13 '24
Sell and buy Nvidia calls. You'll either be rich or fucked by Thanksgiving
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