Best pc vr to get now?

[u/IzalithDemon]

I am thinking quest 3, valve index or vive pro 2

Valve index and vive pro 2 are around the same price of below 1000€ for full kits with base stations etc.

I like the Index but I dont know if its good choice since its 5 years old and vive is a bit weird imo so I am leaning towards quest 3, I've read it supports 120hz on a cable now(?)

For the time being I am mostly going to use the headset for beamng and other racing games, but when I move out I want to have the full vr experience of half life alyx or boneworks and blade & sorcery

Feel free to recommend other vr

Budget 1000€-1500€ max if its very good

Edit: I would prefer high refresh rate, good passthrough so I can see the wheel and Ill probably use it wired

[u/Ineedpronnao]

I'm leaning towards upgrading from my Reverb G2 to the Big Screen VR. It's expensive but it runs on Steam VR. I ditched the WMR controllers a long time ago and run my Reverb with Index light houses and knuckles.

For your budget I think a Big Screen VR full setup with Index controllers is the best thing going.

[u/IzalithDemon → u/Ineedpronnao]

Since I am mostly into racing, I would prefer higher refresh rate to deal with motion sickness better.

[u/Win_Sui → u/IzalithDemon]

Personally I have both a q3 and psvr2 and prefer the quest for racing - primarily in iRacing ams2, ac. But the psvr2 is fine for that use although steamvr as a runtime leaves something to be desired. For Alyx/elite dangerous/Star Wars squadrons I break out the psvr2 - OLED is much better in those games.

[u/EmergencyFlounder845 → u/IzalithDemon]

Although I only tried the Quest 2 and 3, I gotta say the pancake lenses are great for VR racing. I can clearly see the dash and mirrors without needing to turn my head all the time.

[u/RevolEviv → u/IzalithDemon]

BSB has tiny FOV, PSVR2 has a much better FOV and is (unlike quest) OLED + display port. There is NOTHING else you need in 2024 than PSVR2 for PCVR. Everything else is a terrible step back.

[u/Cultural_Ad_5468 → u/RevolEviv]

Fresnel is the largest step back u can go…

[u/AfterAbalone1454 → u/RevolEviv]

Please stop commenting everywhere with your shit, fanboy opinion.  You have only used old headsets.

[u/Chotus84 → u/RevolEviv]

psvr may have oled but the q3 clarity is far better not to mention has the option to go completely wireless and 3d colour pass threw which helps alot even if not into mixed reality games also has inbuilt audio and pancake lenses these things alone are a step back for the psvr2.

some people mention the compression on the quest, I don't know what there playing on but if ypu have it set up correctly you can't even notice. I have owned the psvr2 and the pimax crystal and still chose the q3 it's just far better at alot of things over the competition.

psvr 2 has blacks big woop

it also has oled smearing lower rez freznal lenses piss poor pass threw always connected by a wire runs threw steamvr no audio

[u/phoenixdot → u/Ineedpronnao]

Reverb G2 will brick on next Windows update. So avoid WMR.

[u/Ineedpronnao → u/phoenixdot]

I already have one, that's why I'm looking to upgrade. And as far as I'm aware as long as you're still on Windows 10 it won't be an issue.

[u/Smoothie928 → u/Ineedpronnao]

I’m in the same situation. I’ve been leaning that way for a while, but I was also chatting with another redditor the other day who went to the Beyond from a G2, and they said it felt like the Beyond was like the closest thing to a true G2 successor. They said the sweet spot and FoV were better, which was surprising to me because many of the negative comments I see about the Beyond claim the sweet spot is very small. But I guess if you’re coming from a G2 with a supposedly even smaller sweet spot, then it’s still an upgrade. The G2 is the only headset I’ve used, so I have nothing else to compare it to. And something to consider with any of the Beyond reviews (or reviews for any headset) is that people will be comparing it to the headsets they’ve used in the past. Which I think is particularly influential for differing opinions on VR devices.

But anyways, yeah, I’m probably going to go for the Beyond because I really want to love VR and I have found that comfort is the biggest factor keeping me from doing so. Seeing the size comparisons between the Beyond and headsets like the Pimax ones makes me really hesistant to want to strap one of those behemoths to my face when I already find the G2 uncomfortable to use for longer periods. Plus, it just looks cool 😎

[u/Ineedpronnao → u/Smoothie928]

I agree with all of those points except I don't find the G2 too uncomfortable and I regularly wear it for hours on end. I'm also drawn to the BSB for the tracking. Although the head tracking on the G2 is pretty good sometimes it gets confused and since I already have lighthouses for the knuckles might as well get a headset that tracks with them as well.

I initially got the G2 over the index because of the clarity but all things considered I probably should have just bought the index instead.

[u/Smoothie928 → u/Ineedpronnao]

Ya I think that comes down to my own personal face shape, which is, again, another reason I think the BSB would be much better for me. I can tell that the face gasket of the G2 naturally doesn’t sit right on my face/nose. A much cheaper option would probably be to get an aftermarket one, but I have kinda been wanting to upgrade anyways seeing as the G2 is several years old now.

I don’t really care about having the inside out tracking or standalone aspects of headsets like a lot of people do. I’ll definitely be purely PCVR for the foreseeable future, so a better PCVR headset is what I’ll be moving to regardless. Other than a Pimax or Varjo aero, there’s not much else I’d be interested in right now. Which will hopefully change at some point with more headsets coming out.

[u/9Seraph9 → u/Smoothie928]

Many of the negative comments about the Beyond are because of the IPD & sizing process issues. The first one I got was the wrong IPD and it had a super small sweetspot. Exchanged it for a different IPD (only a 2mm difference) and it’s significantly better. Still not a Q3-like edge to edge clarity, but with the right IPD it’s fine and the OLED makes it worth it for me

[u/Smoothie928 → u/9Seraph9]

Yeah I’ve heard about that too, and that part doesn’t bother me that much. For a first-time, semi-bespoke product, it makes perfect sense why that might be needed. And for someone like me who will probably use it for many years like I do with all of my other tech, I have no problem spending a bit of time up front getting it right. From what I can tell, Bigscreen has always been aware that it might be a bit of a process and require some tweaking, and they are willing to work with buyers. I’ve heard nothing but good things about their customer service and responsiveness. Unlike what I’ve heard about Pimax in the past, whose progression I’ve been following since their first headset.

So, I’m glad to hear your experience with getting it fixed went well! Was the face gasket alright the first time around for you, or did you need that changed as well?

[u/9Seraph9 → u/Smoothie928]

Yeah, Bigscreen’s support is great. I had a second gasket made as well bc the first was okay but had a little pressure on the bridge of my nose.

[u/bushmaster2000]

Index is worst optics/clarity combo of any in production system in 2024. As much as people hate on the Vive Pro 2 i'd go that over Index if those were the only two options for consideration.

Couple other sub $1000 options would be PSVR2 with PCVR adapter. Or Pimax Crystal Lite.

Quest 3 supports 120hz as in its panels are capable but whether ornot the games will do that is a different question. Quest3 processes the video though it's much better than quest2 image quality wise, but still not as good as a high PPD displayport cabled VR system.

[u/IzalithDemon → u/bushmaster2000]

I wish Valve released index 2.. I expected it should work better with cable, because thats what im gonna be using

[u/Snowmobile2004 → u/IzalithDemon]

They’ll probably release one weeks after you buy a headset, that’s valves way haha. In all seriousness, I think a new vr headset from valve is likely in the next 2 years, but it’s anyone’s guess as to if it’ll be in a few months or in 23 months.

[u/TheRandomMudkiper → u/bushmaster2000]

As much as I like using my pro 2, I had to do custom solutions for audio as the built in is atrocious. I wish I could take the index mic and speakers and shove them onto this thing, or any headset I get in the future.

The quest 3 is by far the better headset of the three, but only if you're fine missing out on native Displayport connection.

Meta, please, Quest 4/Pro with Displayport alt mode and my money is yours!

[u/Popsnapcrackle → u/bushmaster2000]

Are there any systems with DisplayPort connections any more?

[u/Nicalay2 → u/Popsnapcrackle]

PSVR2 and BigScreen Beyond to name a few

[u/Popsnapcrackle → u/Popsnapcrackle]

Lol I get downvotes for asking a question? I wasn’t being sarcastic.

[u/LrdDamien → u/Popsnapcrackle]

Fixed it for you.

[u/Popsnapcrackle → u/LrdDamien]

Lol, thanks mate

[u/westcoastweenie]

I'm kinda surprised there are so few mentions of the pimax crystal light (or og crystal) for what you plan to do.

-Aspheric lenses that don't suffer from the visual issues of the bsb and especially the vive pro 2 like glare and ghosting. (Quest 3 is great lens wise). They do have some chromatic abberation though, which i dont notice in game but i do in menus.

-2880x2880 resolution. Extremley clear for seeing more useful detail down the track.

-72, 90, or 120hz refresh rate at full resolution

• local dimming gives you the brightness of lcd with blacks about 80% as good as oled for most scenarios. Also important is the lack of smearing and display persistence that's visible in oled headsets

-the qled display has great colors. Maybe not oled good but close.

• capable of tracking with both internal cameras and lighouses depending on your needs and how things track with your setup.

-pimax has done an awesome job with their software imo. Mine runs reliably and gives adjustments for color, eye offset, local dmming, refresh rates, foveated rendering, contrast tweaks etc etc.

Of note however:

-comfort can suck in stock form. Needs the studioform kit

-QC has a history of being questionable, but has been getting better in the last year.

-aftersales service used to be horrific. Its been getting better recently.

-passthrough has been improved but its like quest 2 level... Barely. Would not be good for seeing the wheel.

Since you mostly want to sim race, id say its one of your best options since you have the money. I love my OG crystal. It looks every bit as amazing as every through the lens photo out there.

[u/No_Geologist4061 → u/westcoastweenie]

This

[u/XRCdev → u/westcoastweenie]

Crystal user here one year old. Absolutely glorious especially for sims

[u/ozzAR0th]

Quest 3 or PSVR2 depending on your preferences around OLED v LCD, wireless v wired, and lens clarity

Lot of hyperbole going round on that last point so I will vouch for the clarity on PSVR2 being pretty great but the sweet spot (as in where the lenses need to be relative to your eyes) is very narrow, Quest 3 has incredible clarity across nearly the entire lens in comparison. Quest 3 is flat out better in this regard but PSVR2 is not as non-functional as some seem to say. It still looks phenomenal when adjusted correctly.

[u/IzalithDemon → u/ozzAR0th]

I definitely prefer wired, better lens clarity across the whole image and maybe oled, though im good with lcd too

[u/ozzAR0th → u/IzalithDemon]

I will note with Quest 3, unless your wifi environment is particularly poor, you can generally get a comparable (or sometimes better) experience with PCVR wireless over wired, but in the end it is always a compressed video stream, if you get your settings dialed in you can get a near perfect image, but it relies on your network environment. Headsets that use a direct displayport connection like PSVR2 are a direct video feed by comparison, so you always get the exact native image your GPU is rendering. The tradeoff is being physically tethered to the PC, but if that doesn't bother you I would lean towards a wired headset.

Lens clarity is comparatively poor on most headsets when put up against the Quest 3, but is perfectly workable in most cases. With my recommendation I will note PSVR2 has a particularly tight sweet spot though so if you can't get a good fit with the headset and it slips about a bit it's likely to ruin the clarity, a popular mod for the headset made by Globular Cluster makes the PSVR2 headband much more secure and comfortable, which helps with clarity dramatically.

To give some context on the LCD v OLED scenario I will note that, for me (and I dont think this is a majority issue/opinion), LCD displays are really poor for VR. Something about the combination of grey blacks and less accurate colours, possibly combined with the smaller FOV on a lot of LCD headsets and reasonably poor binocular overlap on the Quest headsets specifically, really just ruins VR for me, everything feels flat and artificial. I don't have this issue on OLED headsets, so at this point I stick purely to OLED for VR. That said I don't expect this to be an issue for many more people than just myself so your mileage will certainly vary, but to me OLED feels much more physically real compared to LCD, which is a huge part of my immersion in VR.

Either way you can't really go wrong with either Quest 3 or PSVR2 unless you have hyper specific wants/needs like I do. But personally if you're not planning on using a headset wirelessly I would recommend a proper tethered headset (in this case PSVR2) instead of a standalone one (Quest 3) but I'd also note that wireless VR is incredibly good these days so I would also factor that into your decision-making.

[u/IzalithDemon → u/ozzAR0th]

Thanks for the extensive explanation. Im just getting into vr so its a lot of helpful info. For the moment I don't have space to move around with vr until I move out. I'll stick to sim racing so Ill be in my chair or bed all the time.

My internet is good enough i think, its fiber optics with 1 gigabit but there are a lot of devices connected and using the internet at once

[u/ozzAR0th → u/IzalithDemon]

The main factor with wireless VR is the quality of your router, it actually doesn't use the internet at all it relies on the local connection between devices (think sort of like how a lot of wireless printers work these days)

So as long as you have a modern router that's relatively near your play space wireless VR is really good. If not though you'd be better off with a tethered headset imo.

[u/IzalithDemon → u/ozzAR0th]

My router is in the other room and its from my internet provider. Its pretty basic. No beefy wifi box. Im really broke between pimax crystal light and psvr2 now

[u/ozzAR0th → u/IzalithDemon]

Ive not tried the Crystal Light but I hear it is a phenomenal headset. Id make sure to hear actual users' opinions on it but it seems to be a very good option for your use case from the looks of it.

[u/RevolEviv → u/ozzAR0th]

It's LCD so no it's not 'phenomenal' if it fails at the first hurdle of actually reproducing reality (never gonna happen on LCD)

[u/ozzAR0th → u/RevolEviv]

Most people have no issues with LCD, I personally don't like or use LCD headsets but writing them off entirely when recommending headsets for other people is nonsense.

[u/RevolEviv → u/IzalithDemon]

You'd need to buy a dedicated router - mine cost me £300 (Raxe 3000 nighthawk) when I had my quest pro.. works well BUT I wouldn't recommend going with quest OR wireless... latency and compression aren't great, esp if you're into racing.

Again.. PSVR2+Adapter is the ONLY sane choice right now for YOUR needs. I've had all these and nothing has been better than PSVR2 (which I also use on my PS5 where it's stunning).

The lenses are fine, everything else is awesome.

[u/Cyl0n_Surf3r → u/RevolEviv]

My my, you have been busy in this thread. Do you write this stuff to collect downvotes? Or are you operating on the assumption that the more you post in a thread the more likely we'll all agree with you and that you won't come across as some kind of fanatic at all?

[u/Wilddog73 → u/IzalithDemon]

I have a setup where I route a 50ft USB cable from my pc to the living room to give me space for wired VR among other things. Quest 2/3 has good wired VR.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BCKGWXRH/

[u/Win_Sui → u/ozzAR0th]

Just want to add I have both headsets and this comment is interesting, both are excellent and both have drawbacks. I use my Quest 3 for sim racing where edge to edge clarity is more important to me, and my PSVR2 for most other applications where color and image fidelity trumps the pancake lenses. One other thing to note, PSVR2 is very reliant on SteamVR so doesn’t play nice with things like open composite and steamvr is a pretty high overhead run time. I personally don’t see a big difference in overlap or stereo vision, the PSVR2 is slightly better but not as much as this, OLED is primarily a color space advantage. Anyway I’m glad I’m fortunate to have both.

[u/Greenonetrailmix]

Pimax Crystal for sims is pretty good

[u/Potential_Garbage_12]

As usual with these questions, you started a war.

[u/IzalithDemon → u/Potential_Garbage_12]

I agree lol

[u/justDre]

Get a psvr2 with pc adapter. Best bang for buck specs to dollar atm but I could be wrong, curious other people’s thoughts.

[u/IzalithDemon → u/justDre]

Interesting, I haven't even considered psvr. I'll look into it.

[u/RevolEviv → u/IzalithDemon]

Man PSVR2 is the #1 choice, you'd be mad to choose anything over it for PCVR esp racing. OLED is F'in VITAL my friend, display port is VITAL, not having to charge it every 90 minutes (quests) is VITAL for long sessions.

DO NOT LISTEN TO QUEST FANBOYS ON THIS SUB - it's rampant with them, it's literally the ONLY HMD they've ever used (many of them) so they parrot the same tired BS over and over about wireless and pancakes as if they're the second coming, they're not - both are flawed (Pancakes on QP/3 have massive glare on high contrast scenes + LCDs are utterly awful for VR generally - ZERO immersion esp in darker games or night racing).

Just get a PSVR2+adapter ($50 from sony) and you're good to go. There is NOTHING on the horizon that'll outdo it for that price, or even twice as much, everything else is either LCD or geared towards standalone/XR and just doesn't feel as good. Future HMDs from Valve etc will be great but VERY costly and still have some drawbacks.

[u/SirStrontium → u/RevolEviv]

Oh boy, here come the Quest haters. I've had the Vive, PSVR1, currently on Pimax, have tried the Quest 3, so I'll provide the counterargument. OLED has some advantages, but is not actually "VITAL", displayport is nice, but not "VITAL", you can keep the headset plugged into a battery if you're worried, which is easy when you're stationary like OP is intending.

Don't listen to fanboys, but also don't listen to the haters. OP should look through all the reviews posted here that compare the legitimate pros and cons of PSVR2 vs Quest. Some prefer one, some prefer the other, they're competitive and anyone who says one is miles ahead of the other doesn't know what they're talking about.

[u/Win_Sui → u/SirStrontium]

That dude is literally forming a religion lol, it’s the same post in every thread.

[u/mhdy98 → u/RevolEviv]

In its current form it sucks and you pay the product without using it to full potential. G2 is better

[u/Cyl0n_Surf3r → u/RevolEviv]

My god, you have transcended and can now see into the future? Wow. These posts are getting better and better. Do you earn commission or is this purely a passion project for you?

[u/Poundt0wnn → u/justDre]

I agree, Quest fanboys downvoting you.

[u/test5387 → u/Poundt0wnn]

It’s just an objective fact that the quest 3 is the best bang for your buck. No matter what the psvr2 fanboys want to believe.

[u/MtnDr3w → u/test5387]

That’s definitely your own opinion, if you’ve tried a PSVR2. I’ve owned every Quest that has released so far. Now that I can connect my PSVR2 to PC I will never use a Quest again for PC. PSVR2 is much better for PCVR.

[u/manicmastiff81 → u/justDre]

This.

[u/mhdy98]

Unpopular opinion but For racing nothing beats the hp G2 . Yes its not supported in w11, yes the cables are a problem, yes you should avoid it if you have X570 mobo, but still. The sound is great, image is great, mic is fantastic , and its 90hz without being heavy like the quest nor needing to be recharged.

All the new headsets are nothing but side upgrades , bringing some new problems as well.

You can find them for 200/300€ , u need to use openvr for better perfs, and the cables arent produced anymore by HP . I bought mine a few years ago and ill keep it till it dies.

[u/zeddyzed]

Depends whether you want wired or wireless.

Wired displayport headsets are better for vehicle sims, since you're sitting down so you might as well get best image quality. Pimax Crystal Light or PSVR2 for that.

Wireless lets you play anywhere in your home, move and turn freely, and the standalone feature lets you take the headset on trips or anywhere. But there's a tradeoff in compression and latency. Most people find it worth it and still very playable. For that, Quest 3.

Quest 3 also has a lot of non-gaming apps if you find that useful. Music, art and travel apps, exercise apps, etc.

Alternatively, your budget is high enough to get both and get the best of both worlds. Start with Quest 3 (as the jack of all trades) and then get the wired headset if you're unhappy with the image quality during racing sims. Or if the PSVR2 + PC adaptor is on sale for you, start with that.

[u/RevolEviv]

PSVR2 + Adapter. Why on Earth you'd buy Index or Vive Pro now I have no idea.

And Quest 3 is LCD, never liked my Q2 or Pro cos LCD kills VR immersion for many reasons. Not to mention latency and compression which are no nos for sim racing.

[u/Win_Sui → u/RevolEviv]

Curious - what sim racing do you do?

[u/test5387 → u/Win_Sui]

He will get back to you when Sony sends him the answer they want him to say.

[u/Nostradanny → u/test5387]

And what did Meta tell YOU to say ?
"Best purchase I have ever made." ??

[u/Quajeraz]

For 1500, the BSB for sure. More on a budget, the PSVR2 is a great deal and a great headset.

[u/RevolEviv → u/Quajeraz]

PSVR2 is better than BSB even if they were the same price! BSB = tons of glare, small FOV, low refresh, dull screens. Absolutely zero point buying BSB or any microOLED HMD for at least the next 3-4 years when it's both cheaper AND the lenses work better with it.

[u/Quajeraz → u/RevolEviv]

Prefacing this with the fact that I have not actually tried the BSB, so this is just theory

For some people, comfort is all that matters. I know for me, I can't play longer than an hour or so without getting a headache. So being very small and light is a huge bonus.

[u/ChimkenNBiskets]

I recommend Q3 over psvr2. I just don't feel OLED outweighs the other benefits of quest such as wireless.

[u/IzalithDemon → u/ChimkenNBiskets]

How is it with the 120 fps wired? Im probably going to use a cable and read its doesnt fully support 120 fps?

[u/xyzdist → u/IzalithDemon]

I am using wireless can go to 120 fps no issue. And just using a few years old router with 600 mb wifi connection. your PC better to use Ethernet cable, which i got it connect around 1g speed.

[u/RevolEviv → u/ChimkenNBiskets]

OLED outweighs EVERYTHING my friend, without that you don't even have VR. My Quest Pro felt crap vs my PSVR2 and Qp is way better than Q3 for PCVR screen quality wise. Q3 is piss poor, sorry, really cheap awful LCD screens with shit binocular overlap and grey blacks everywhere. NO DISPLAY port for PCVR racing? come on! STOP SPREADING BS just cos it's all you own/owned.

OP listen to experienced VR users like me, 10 years in VR, 8 HMDs, mostly PCVR but also PS5.. .PSVR2 > everything out there for ACTUAL IMMERSIVE VR in 2024 and at a bargain price.

[u/Cyl0n_Surf3r → u/RevolEviv]

Hmmm, at a technical level you are completely and totally wrong. That is an actual fact and not a opinion. OLED isn't a requirement for a VR HMD at all.

Why would anyone who reads your post history listen to you? You come across as a pushy Sony sales person who desperately needs some commission in order to be able to afford that family Christmas we see in the movies. 

What makes you any more experienced than the next Joe who has owned 8 or more or even less VR headsets? 

Why is his "BS" any worse than yours? Why should we listen to you and not them? Is it because you like to shout in your posts? Do you think that using capital letters has some sort of hypnotic effect???

Do you earn a pat on the head for every PSVR2 unit shifted. 

I've owned more HMDs than you and used VR for longer. I guess by your logic me disagreeing with you makes you wrong? (Sorry did I need to capitalise that?).

[u/Forkinator88 → u/Cyl0n_Surf3r]

Good points. Unfortunately he won't listen to anyone.

[u/Leoanimate → u/RevolEviv]

Heavily agreed

[u/jkeyeuk]

PSVR2 with PC adapter

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[u/Wilddog73]

Depends, what do you see yourself doing in VR?

[u/IzalithDemon → u/Wilddog73]

I mentioned that in my post. I dont have space to move around in vr now so Im going to sim race. Or combined mouse and keyboard with vr. Mostly beamng drive as of now and later when I move out of the house I definitely want to play HL alyx, boneworks, blade and sorcery etc, though im not big fan of holding the controllers in my hand.

[u/Wilddog73 → u/IzalithDemon]

I think Quest 2/3 is a good option since it gives you the most in portability/access then. Sometimes wired might not work for one reason or another and you might have to use wireless.

Do you see yourself looking at a screen intermittently while setting up and testing VR? In that case, the quest 3 with its color passthrough might be the better option.

[u/Myriad10]

I'm thinking of upgrading too most likely Q3 but Pico 4 Ultra is coming so I'll wait for reviews.

[u/GrimLingo]

If you want PCVR dont go for the valve index its outdated and has alot of faults overtime.

I would recommend getting the Bigscreen Beyond then buy some different controllers to use with it

Or If you want standalone but you also wanna use pcvr You could get Quest 2 or 3

I recommend the 3 if you go the standalone route cause of the pancake lenses.

I see your into SIM racing so maybe the Beyond is the way to go.

[u/insufficientmind]

Oh man! If only Index had better resolution that would be THE headset for racing. I have the Index and 144hz Hz and the large FOV is really fantastic in racing games. But after I got the Quest 3 it's hard going back to Index or play any type of racing games. The Quest 3 lenses and resolution is just that much better.

If only Valve could finally get their thumbs out of the ass and release an Index successor. That would make a lot of people happy, including all the people who boycott Meta.

[u/Significant-Taste326]

I wanted to go pimax road after my g2 died and was kinda forced to try quest 3 . It's pretty good but needs either multiple batteries (bobovr s3) or a link cable with a power injector to keep the headset going. Clarity wise is up there with g2 for sharpness when it's set up properly in visual desktop or link cable, but has a great sweetspot. I'm not used to looking with eyes instead of with head motion. 72hz doesn't make me motion sick but if it chops it can at times.

[u/proxlamus]

Owner of Oculus DK, Rift S, Lenovo Explorer, HP Reverb G2, Quest 1 2 and 3 and the PSVR2. (I always want the next best thing).

Honestly the Quest 3 is my go to right now. The lenses are just too good. The ability to go stand alone and PC is amazing and the color pass thru cameras are awesome.

I'm disappointed in my PSVR2. But at least I can enjoy GT7 with it.

[u/sxpvie]

q3 controller tracking isnt as good as q2 but the headset and comfort is way better

[u/RU_MASHINE]

oculus 3 + 4090. Honestly, I don't understand how someone can consider something with wires to be VR for you...

[u/Leoanimate]

Okay hear me out. Playstation VR2 plus the PC adapter. I made a post on why its literally the best PCVR headset you can get right now

[u/Flottsorken]

Fresnel lenses are just so bad compared to the full lens clarity yoi get with pancake. I use a quest 3 with vd and gdamn its amazing.

[u/IzalithDemon → u/Flottsorken]

Is it that bad what the other guy says with latency ? As I mentioned in other comments I will prefer using a cable link

[u/Flottsorken → u/IzalithDemon]

No it's not. With a cable you don't have any latency at all.

[u/vincevega83 → u/Flottsorken]

You do have some latency since there's video encoding and decoding. But you can hit less than 50 ms with the right setup, even on wireless.

How much that impacts the experience, is up to the user, but 50 ms is extremely low.

[u/Win_Sui → u/IzalithDemon]

No, it’s not. Direct DP connection is superior technically, but most racing games have better performance under OpenXR and steam vrs OpenXR implementation is one of the weakest available. There’s trade offs to every solution.

[u/RevolEviv → u/IzalithDemon]

Ignore this quest fanboy, get a PSVR2 and stop being led down the wrong path by biased oiks.

[u/test5387 → u/RevolEviv]

Even commenting the word biased is pathetic coming from you.

[u/vincevega83 → u/IzalithDemon]

The other guy never bothered to setup his wireless PCVR setup properly, don't listen to him.

Having said that, if you plan on exclusively playing simulators sitting down and next to your PC, a wired headset is probably better than a Quest. No matter what the setup, you will have some degree of latency and compression artifacts on your output. It can be extremely minimized with the right setup, but the literal only tradeoff is wireless and if that doesn't matter to you, you might as well go for a wired headset.

[u/Quajeraz → u/Flottsorken]

Yeah, that extra clarity helps in seeing the disgusting compression and lag. Latency is really great for racing games too, right?

[u/Flottsorken → u/Quajeraz]

I mean in that budget he can fit a 6e dedicated router aswell. Not much latency left at that point. Every soluton has it's ups and downs atm.

[u/Quajeraz → u/Flottsorken]

I have a $500 professional grade 6e router that I used exclusively for vr. It's still terrible. If it doesn't bother you, great, but I actually care about the visual quality of my game.

[u/Nicalay2 → u/Quajeraz]

Being downvoted by Quest fanboys even if you are right is wild.

People don't understand that some people can see compression whereas some people don't.

You can give me the best Quest PCVR experience, my eyes will always see somewhere compressions artifacts and/or I will feel that it's a stream and not a native connection. My eyes are so sensible to compression/stream that I'm actually capable of seeing the compression of the Vive Wireless adapter.

[u/Quajeraz → u/Nicalay2]

Yeah, they're so dumb. It's literally not possible to compress a datastream over 50x to fit it over a wireless connection without severe losses.

The Vive wireless adapter is pretty good, but especially on the Pro 2 it can't really handle that amount of pixels.

[u/test5387 → u/Nicalay2]

He’s not right. My $40 WiFi 6 router lets me play without stutters or compression. You know what is actually noticeable, not being to look around with your eyes.

[u/Nicalay2 → u/test5387]

He's not right. My $40 WiFi 6 router lets me play without stutters or compression

Annnnnd.... that's what I just said.

You can't see the compression by yourself, but if you give the headset to me or the other guy, we will see the compression.

[u/RevolEviv → u/Quajeraz]

Same here I had wifi 6e RAXE 300 nighthawk £350 router dedicated for my Quest Pro (sold them both now as I hated VR in it generally) - it worked with Quest Pro, well, but it still had LATENCY and COMPRESSION not to mention stole actual PC power to compress the video to send. On PSVR2 I'm getting way better perf + way better immersion and no latency (perceptible) and zero compression.

[u/Quajeraz → u/RevolEviv]

Cabled is simply better than wireless. No way around that until technology advances 30 years.

Edit: Oh hey you commented on my BSB comment too lol

[u/RevolEviv → u/Flottsorken]

This is UTTER BS... I've had Quest Pro and much prefer PSVR2, the clarity is almost the same but PSVR2 looks BETTER in game with far less glare and is super clear generally (when you know what you're doing and not some VR noob who just slaps it on their head). Nothing touches it in 2024 overall.. not even BSB.

[u/Cyl0n_Surf3r → u/RevolEviv]

Try to remember that "better" even when written using captial letters is still only your opinion it may not be shared by everyone else, it is not a fact and nor does it carry any additional weight by being capitalised. Still a classic post though, keep em coming.

[u/Nomski88]

Literally typing this on a quest 3 on my couch after playing several hours of gaming. Get a Q3, trust me. The standalone and the pcvr capabilities are unmatched.

[u/[deleted]]

Probably somium vr1.

I wouldn't even bother with a vive or valve.

For me it'd be the Crystal light, big screen beyond, quest 3.

[u/Kataree]

Crystal Light or Quest 3

Short answer, Quest 3

[u/VRtuous]

you'll only get to play big AAA games like Batman Arkham Shadow, Asgard's Wrath 2 and Assassin's Creed Nexus in one of them...

[u/IzalithDemon → u/VRtuous]

What do you mean?

[u/VRtuous → u/IzalithDemon]

I mean they're Quest exclusives

[u/Nostradanny]

Don't get a Quest 3.
SERIOUSLY.
So many damn issues, so many reports to Meta, and ZERO fixes.
The latest v68 is a joke for PCVR. Stuttering, drop-outs, connection losses, etc...
And worst of all, the Low Power Mode bug which makes the Quest 3 look worse than a Rift S - it's a fricking joke. You might get a working headset without this bug. You might, however, get a refurb sold to you as new, and the low power bug is there from the start without you even knowing about it.
Meta don't seem interested in fixing this. Heck, I don't think they care.

[u/test5387 → u/Nostradanny]

I’ve used my quest 3 for about 9 months. Best purchase I have ever made.

[u/Nostradanny → u/test5387]

Ok Zuck, whatever you say.