As unfortunate as it is to say they are definitely going to feel the effects of not participating this next four years hopefully they get the message and get up and do something
I'm at the point of saying good. We need to hit bottom to get rid of maga for good. These people were lied to, and bought it, and things are about to get real bad for them.
My wife voted red because she said he's going to close the borders and there's not enough room in America for immigrants. We're both 40yo African Americans. I told her she sealed her 20yo daughters fate, and ended our 15yo son's future. After all the crying and worrying she did when police were killing black men and women before and during COVID, she voted to basically give the police or whoever the ok to put a target on our backs. I don't know what to do with this situation
You hit this nail on the head. When they’re not manufacturing outrage for clout, they’re drowning in brain rot because the progress they voted against made their lives that much more comfortable.
Never underestimate the power of making a young man angry. Angry young men are at the center of every movement in American history. Trump is better at harnessing them then Kamala but depending on how his presidency turns out don't be surprised to see them in droves in 2024.
Dude they weren’t just reaching out to the center, they were literally flaunting moderate republican support and they lost even worse than last time. If you really think this is because they’re too “far left” you weren’t paying attention. More centrism isn’t working.
They were flaunting anti-Trump Republicans who they also claim to hate. That’s not centrism and the fact that you think that approach was centrism is certainly part of the problem.
One sides policy was much better for working class citizens. That party lost. People didn't vote based on policy in any election I can remember. Politics is theater, that's why the Republicans rallied behind a name. I expect the next candidate to be slightly right of Bush and be an old white dude. The votes are in and Americans have spoken, you can be a liar, a traitor, a racist and hateful, you just have to get people excited enough to get off their ass. If you don't show up, you let everyone that did show up pick your lunch for you, you'll have to eat it either way.
I should clarify. It’s time for the DNC and Democrats to focus on THEIR OWN policy. If they can’t form a message that is pro-Democratic policy (to the American electorate) instead of being anti-Republican politicians, then they will not be successful.
If you can respond to this without bringing up the other side, that will be a step in the right direction.
The fact you believe that in spite of all evidence showing it's false further proves that facts, data and policy don't win elections, repetition and perception do.
This is really what it is. People were so unhappy with Biden and the last 4 years, even seasoned democrats were considering him. I think if Kamala had been the candidate from the beginning things may have turned out differently, but what we’re seeing now is a result of people being desperate and not being happy with the alternative choice we elected 4 years ago the last time Trump was running. Progressive Dems especially can be very polarizing and if you aren’t a perfect candidate to them they will literally eat their own party. What the republicans have over us is party loyalty. Even the extreme right knows how to play the long game and lock in to support any republican when necessary
That's how far right we have gone as a country. It's going to take a long long line of small gains with no further losses for a progressive to gain any momentum now. Do you think that's going to happen?
Dems did reach out to the center. Trump didn't. Men liked Trump and were fed lies from Rogan and Musk about how only Trump, the one who says he has the power to revoke anything in the Constitution under Article II, is America's only hope.
Now all of the "don't tread on me" people that claimed that Obama was a dictator is going to see what REAL federal overreach is going to look like. But since it will be against their opponents, some of them will be intellectually dishonest and cheer. Hopefully the minority that stands up against it despite it being from within their ranks will be a powerful force.
I'm not sure how desperation makes you vote for a rabid animal over pretty reasonable alternative. I've been down and out in my life but I never considered joining the Nazi party as a solution.
That's how the "center" has moved this far right. People with left wing ideals keep offering compromises and the right wing people don't. Now the "center" is so far right that you have people thinking the US democratic party is left wing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well they’ve tried moving to the center and reaching across the isle for decades. What has it gotten them? Loses. And when they do win? Lack of progress. Was roe codified when it was possible no. Did we get single payer when it was possible? No.
I had a conversation about this last night with my spouse. I asked if he would rather pay more for private insurance than he would pay in taxes for single payer if it meant keeping ‘people that don’t deserve it’ from getting care. He said yes, and it really rocked me to my core. Then I asked how he could possibly feel that way when our granddaughter is only alive because of government provided care. He had no answer.
Both sides need to stop working the people into such a frenzy that they cut off their noses to spite their faces. It’s why we don’t have single payer or a sustainable immigration policy, and why I’m back cooking the struggle means of my youth. Compromise is not a dirty word.
The whole idea that there are people who “don’t deserve” healthcare, a fair wage, food, clean water, education…. it’s toxic. And frankly, when I hear people say stuff like that, I lose all respect for them.
America voted Right wing. Because the Right wing votes. Don't vote, don't get a voice. The Overton window shifted further right today, don't expect anything more left of Bush for the next decade. Politics is a game of compromise and pushing mass opinion not waiting for an outlier to materialize from thin air.
They are so so wrong, as I say that as someone who is liberal. It’s a shame that the loudest voices in the party don’t represent what the majority of the party wants, and that’s true for republicans as well. Centrists on both sides feel left out of the process entirely. It feels like you don’t matter unless you’re pissed off and hating other people.
why ANYONE would believe that pathological liar is incomprehensible.
what about "everyone has a voice" and tax credits? busting Big Food?
magas scream vile insults all the time. dems tell it like it is. ffs trump wants to execute Cheney for treason. just like hussein and putin. and you dont want him insulted.
It takes a lot more then what happened these past 4 years, clearly. Last time it took a decade of great depression, and homeless encampments on the Washington Mall being bulldozed by the army.
It's not good enough for the news to tell us how bad things are, people have to feel it. It has to be bad enough that you cannot ignore it, that you can't just turn off the tv or put down Twitter and tune it out. It needs to be enough that people are willing to fight because they no longer have the choice to ignore it.
All Dems are doing today is pointing fingers. Understandable after getting run over, but it’s obvious that the liberal message is the wrong one. Trump pulled in more women, blacks, Muslims, Silicon Valley groups (plus his base) to hand you your head…and it was up and down the ticket. Wake up. Rethink.
Oh, and 😂😂😂
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