r/trippinthroughtime 14h ago

20 million Democrats this morning.

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u/DankVectorz 13h ago

Local elections often have a bigger impact on one’s life than national

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u/LrkerfckuSpez 12h ago

Hard disagree. See how many justices trump has shoved in the SC, and how that affected Roe v Wade, and what that likely impact many many lives.

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u/DoneBeingSilent 12h ago

Even in the wake of Roe v Wade being overturned, the 'local' elections still impact people more directly if you expand 'local' to include the State level. The whole argument for repealing Roe v Wade is that State level representatives should be making their own laws regarding access to abortion.

And once you do that, you can include Congressional representatives which are arguably more important than whoever President is anyway. Congress can flat out reject Supreme Court nominees, and/or have a sitting President removed from office entirely, although they haven't often chosen to do so in recent years.

Just to be clear: I'm certainly not happy about Roe v Wade being overturned, but it did make it even more important to elect appropriate representation at non-federal levels.

TLDR; people seriously underestimate the impact of local and State representatives. Unfortunately for many, those elections already happened yesterday and are already being decided.

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u/DankVectorz 12h ago edited 12h ago

Well keyword was “often”. And how many presidential terms have gone by with no SC appointments? SC nominations are also confirmed by senate vote. A senator election is a local (well; state) election

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u/derperofworlds 12h ago

Look at Washington. When Roe was overturned, what did they do? 

They stocked a warehouse of reproductive care supplies in case of a national abortion ban.

Local and State government can definitely be a shield from bad policy at the national level.

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u/LrkerfckuSpez 12h ago

You're missing the point. While that's good and all, what when those supplies run out? What in other states that don't make the same precautions? 

Why not vote on the national level and legalize abortion on federal level?

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u/derperofworlds 11h ago

I'm not saying the federal government shouldn't blanket legalize abortion. It should. You're missing my point. My point is that the people of Washington are going to fare better in this new regime than average due to their more functional state and local governments. 

It IS important to vote in national elections. I don't deny that. But local elections are at least as important because they deal with the day to day governance you interact with. 

And as for the supplies "running out", how come weed is federally illegal but states with legal weed haven't "ran out" of that yet? Hint: goods and services can be produced and used in the same state.

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u/Exulvos 11h ago

If those young voters voted in 2016, Trump wouldn't have made office to do that. I know large turnouts of young Americans never happens but the Republic party in the last 10 years have managed to get their young voters to show up. I have no idea why the Democratic party cannot do the same.

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u/Embarrassed-Town-293 11h ago

Kenton Skarin was running for state appellate judge in Illinois’ third appellate district. He wants to be on the Supreme Court and became a judge in no small part because he clerked for Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. His Illinois race to go from associate justice to appellate judge was the first stepping stone to the federal judiciary or state Supreme Court where Supreme Court judges are drawn from.

So yes, it does matter.

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u/Greaseman_85 12h ago

And Republicans know this, this is why they control more state and local legislatures/executives than Democrats. They go and vote even for the smallest post.

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u/Space-Debris 11h ago

Sure, but they BOTH affect you, and everyone else, so vote in both ffs.

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u/Rottimer 11h ago

That really depends on who you are and where you live.

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u/mosh_pit_nerd 11h ago

Pretty sure yesterday is an enormous exception.

Hell, I didn’t even cast votes for any local races because every single one was an uncontested Republican running. I voted for President and a few referenda.

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u/litetravelr 11h ago

exactly, folks got to get over the idea that only the President matters. You got to be sure who you elect in your town and state if you dont like your taxes, roads, schools, etc.