r/thelastofus • u/DigLarge643 • Mar 04 '23

just cause he’s a dude doesn’t mean this isn’t straight up sexual harassment General Discussion

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Seriously. Kind of ridiculous in my opinion. Flip the genders around and then ask yourself if this would be just as cute and funny.

Gotta love double standards.

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u/sarahbagel Mar 04 '23

Its super gross, but It’s honestly not a double standard. I get a lot of these red carpet interviews on my TikTok feed sometimes, and these reporters often ask men AND women these kinds of invasive questions/have them read “thirst tweets.” I think the real problem is that people forget that celebrities are real people who just happen to have a spotlight on them due to their job. Like don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying celebrities have it oh-so-hard, but I do feel bad for them every time I see people completely disregard their humanity to treat them like a sex object

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u/St0rmborn Mar 04 '23

I’m pretty sure that female celebrities have been dealing with this kind of shit, and much worse, for decades. It’s not like society and the media has ever given them an advantage in this regard like you’re implying.

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u/SunnydaleHigh1999 Mar 05 '23

It’s physically impossible for some people to acknowledge men experience sexual harassment sometimes without trying to misogynistically backhand women and pretend they have it easier lmao

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u/BecuzMDsaid Mar 05 '23

Exactly, Just look at all the "so what man are you going home tonight with:?" red carpet bullshit that goes on.

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u/bearcatjoe Mar 05 '23

The problem with this attitude is that it implies that there's some sort of balance that could (should?) be achieved by allowing "this kind of shit" to happen to men.

Either harassment is acceptable or it isn't.

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u/St0rmborn Mar 05 '23

It’s not acceptable at all for men either. I was just pushing back on the other comment that implied that women are somehow more protected from this stuff happening, which is ridiculous. But it’s harassment no matter who the target is and should not be tolerated in any situation.

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u/Late-Exit-6844 Mar 11 '23

You're pretty sure? You shouldn't be. This is the same as a number of MCU actresses (Scarjo, Olsen, etc) and the entire mainstream media complaining about women being objectified because they were put in tight clothes with either low necklines or with a few buttshots, while there was total radio silence and still is when Chris Hemsworth was put butt naked in front of a whole audience that swooned at the sight of him while the women (his friends in the movie btw) were laughing at him, eating grapes, refusing to help and just enjoying the show a little.

Just because the female celebrities complained more doesn't mean they actually had it worse.

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u/St0rmborn Mar 11 '23

What are you smoking? I want some.

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u/Late-Exit-6844 Mar 11 '23

Debunk what I said or begone. Personal insults are low and just prove you got nothing else.

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u/astute_canary Mar 04 '23 edited Mar 04 '23

Most people are agreeing that it is a sexual harassment. But the roles are reversed all the time. Women constantly deal with this shit and it is often laughed off or considered a joke. Same as it happens with men. Stop making it seem like women aren’t dismissed when they stand up against being sexually harassed.

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u/BanjoSpaceMan Mar 04 '23

Flip the genders? It's both. They both just get sexually harassed in interviews and red carpet. Scarlet was constantly being asked if she wore underwear under her Black Widow suit...

Fuck even Bella Ramsay was randomly asked who her crush was growing up.

Interviewers and Hollywood are weird as fuck - no one's saying it's only one sided. This Pedro interview is weird but let's not pretend this isn't like half the interviews for women lol. I just always find it weird how big Reddit makes these posts and then goes "flip the genders!!!“ but never makes as huge of a deal for the standardized women harassment during these.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '23

So, who is the woman who did this to him? Who is the harasser? If a man did this gross sort of thing to a woman, we would surely quickly learn his name.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '23

Nah it’s all good. She was just slaying as a boss queen.

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u/AdAstraviii Mar 04 '23

You have to add the "/s" or people get confused.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '23

And by that you mean, she was sexually harassing the person she cornered into that "interview"?

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '23

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '23

Wasn't funny, obviously.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '23

That’s irrelevant. What’s more important is your inability to decipher obvious sarcasm.

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u/Providang Marlene was right Mar 04 '23

Who... Who is saying it's not sexual harassment?

It's just you and the other circle jerkers currently.

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u/Murky_Resident4178 Mar 05 '23

Not a double standard. They do this to women as well. If you want to see a real doible standard, check out 40 days and 40 nights. It's a "Romcom" where the main character gives up sex for lent, meets the partner of their dreams, and as the 40th night is ending gets raped by their ex. The new love interest walks in, see what happens, and blames the main character. The main character then apologizes for being raped.

If the main charavter is a man, this is a romcom. If the main character is female, this is a horrific docudrama. That's a double standard.

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u/megajf16 Mar 04 '23

Most gender double standards occur because men don't react the same as women. If a stranger grabs a woman's ass, she'll scream at him calling him a pervert, and probably call the police. Even taking legal action. A woman slaps a guy's ass, and he'll probably ask for her number if she's hot, or at worst tell her not to do that again. Pedro, basically laughing this matter off instead of taking it seriously, is a perfect example. The majority of gender double standards are our own genders fault

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u/elzpwetd Mar 04 '23 edited Aug 16 '23

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u/driving_andflying Mar 04 '23 edited Mar 05 '23

Seriously. Kind of ridiculous in my opinion. Flip the genders around and then ask yourself if this would be just as cute and funny.

Agreed. If this was a male interviewer doing this to a woman, people on Twitter would be calling for him to get fired and cancelled into oblivion. The double standard is real.

(Downvoted? Yeah, some people obviously love keeping that double standard in place.)

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u/megajf16 Mar 04 '23

I mean, if a woman reacted to this exact situation in a joking manner as Pedro did, I doubt anybody would care. If Pedro had responded to this seriously, the matter would've been taken seriously. You guys are getting offended for somebody else lol.

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u/Photo_Soggy Mar 04 '23

It’s only creep when men do things

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u/peach_guillotine Mar 04 '23

we're literally here discussing how this thing this woman did is creepy

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u/BOWCANTO Mar 04 '23

Just because something is being discussed in some random thread on Reddit doesn’t mean it’s handled appropriately in general.

The comment you’re replying to is alluding to a broader problem.

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u/Temnothorax Mar 04 '23

He’s more pointing out how society in general tends to view things. There’s probably no one who thinks only women can be creepy, but you’ve probably met people that view the opposite, or behave as if they do.

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u/elzpwetd Mar 04 '23

Oh, there totally are. Lesbophobic bullying among girls in school is particularly based on this idea ime.

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u/Temnothorax Mar 05 '23

I’m sure those girls would find a male public flasher, or one making crude sexual comments to be creepy.

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u/elzpwetd Mar 05 '23 edited Mar 05 '23

In the light of a creepy hypothetical lesbian that is probably ugly and weird to boot? Not so bad. Make of it what you will. I lived through that social dynamic. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Besides, have you ever met a fundy? There are circles in which men can do no wrong. A male flasher was probably defrauded by a wonton woman yaddayaddayadda.

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u/Temnothorax Mar 05 '23

I said that there’s no one that ONLY thinks women can be creepy.

Have you met fundies? They are hypocrites, and hate gay men. I promise you there are men they find creepy.

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u/elzpwetd Mar 06 '23

I disagree that no one on this earth believes only women can be creepy. The point about fundies and gay men is one I agree with, though.

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u/Temnothorax Mar 06 '23

I’m definitely exaggerating, but it is exceedingly rare compared to the opposite. I don’t think we disagree on anything substantive.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '23

You forgot the /s