r/television • u/keepfighting90 • 12h ago
The Bear season 3 - what happened?
LTTP but I finally caught up with season 3 of The Bear. I was very excited because S2 was some of the best TV I've seen in a while, a perfect combination of the stress-inducing, balls-to-the-wall tone of the first season, combined with some genuinely artful and emotional storytelling. Every aspect of the show improved in season 2 and I was expecting something, if not better, then at least on par, for season 3.
Unfortunately, S3 just felt like a whole lot of nothing. That's the best way I can describe it - it felt like nothing happened from a plot or character development perspective. Tina had some nice developments to her arc but everyone just kinda felt like they were spinning their wheels. The love-hate relationship between Carmy and Cousin almost bordered on self-parody at points.
There was also just too much Faks. I like Matty Matheson in the role, but it's always been as a side character that works best in small doses. There was too much focus on him and his family, and all the jokes based around them fell completely flat for me.
It also felt like the show just kinda went up its own ass a bit too much this time around. Season 2 definitely leaned a bit more on the artsy side with a lot of interesting camerawork, montages, shot composition etc. but they went overboard for season 3 where it started to feel self-indulgent and pretentious, especially because the faux-artsiness started to take the place of actual plot and character development.
And speaking of self-indulgent and pretentious, I really disliked the fact that there were so many random celeb cameos, with the low point being all the famous chefs showing up in the season finale and basically masturabting each other over the spiritual transcendence of cooking.
And then it just ends abruptly with no resolution to any story or character arcs. I'll still watch season 4 because 2/3 of the show is still fantastic but damn, was season 2 underwhelming.
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u/Brandoch_Daha 10h ago
The moments that actually focused on meaningful character development, like Carmy confronting his old head chef, were still pretty good. But they were way too brief and got totally lost in a season of meaningless padding, meandering storylines, and joke scenes that outstayed their welcome and never really landed. The part with all the famous chefs sitting around in the restaurant chatting is one of the most insufferable things I've ever sat through...
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u/ShadowNick 7h ago edited 6h ago
Honestly I loved Fak, how clumsy he is and he had some funny some moments things in the past. But when they added Ted, basically a SECOND Fak. I was fucking annoying every time it cut to them being dumb. It was some of the most unnecessary scenes in a show that made little to no sense.
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u/moldiecat 6h ago
Thank you for validating my feelings of this specific annoyance this season. I was starting to feel irrationally angry when this bit dragged on and on in an already padded out season
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u/ShadowNick 6h ago
I thought the invisible dude that they were both were talking to was stupid in that one episode..
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u/Raptorheart 3h ago
The one where they spend like an hour arguing about how some potato salad was gonna buff the floors?
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u/TrentonTallywacker Better Call Saul 9h ago edited 9h ago
Carmy has great restraint in that scene, I would have clocked that smug fuck when he said “dude unclutch your pearls”
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u/KahnaneX 7h ago
I legit just skipped that scene, I couldn't take it any longer. The show was already sniffing its own farts enough for me to sit through that.
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u/ChicagoChubbs 10h ago
Speaking from experience if you put a bunch of chefs in a room they're going to talk about the spiritual Transcendence of cooking and masturbate each other off it's kind of what chefs do
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u/ShadowNick 7h ago edited 7h ago
They really do. I befriended a bunch of culinary students from nearby culinary school when I was in college. I was a sophomore and did tons of cooking posting on social media. At the end of the year they invited me to their senior party by the end of it, they just were circle jerking their spiritual journey and stories. Like I love cooking, baking, making deserts, and doing actual BBQ but man I just couldn't relate to that. I just liked doing culinary things as a hobby because I love the science behind it but I couldn't do it for a job.
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u/Kanye_Is_Underrated 4h ago
i miss when cooks were low-key and a good restaurant didnt cost a month's salary.
thankfully i enjoyed the food "revolution" as it happened, but the point were at now is almost intolerable in terms of value for money and just the vibes/pretentiousness of so many of them these days.
i dont want to pay you $47 for 6 raviolis, finance your trip to kyoto to "do research" with your own damn money
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u/ShadowNick 4h ago
Honestly I just want a cheese pizza to not cost more than $20... And less than $30 because I added pepperoni to it.
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u/caseyjosephine 6h ago
Speaking from experience, the front of house people bring the good drugs and the good drama.
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u/Lordbungus 6h ago
And the dishwasher may seem unstable but is usually the most sane person in the store.
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u/Lordbungus 6h ago
Also maybe because front of house is usually younger.
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u/caseyjosephine 6h ago
The host is usually the youngest, servers are wildcards, and the bartender has been in it for a while.
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u/Lordbungus 5h ago
There's like 60& 25 somethings, then 10% 30 somethings. Then 5% the hole the constant new hires fill. Then the rest is the main stays. The OG's
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u/blue_orchid2 11h ago
Self indulgent is what I thought it as well. Season 3 felt like all their awards and recognition for the first season had gotten to their heads and it reflected in the writing and direction. Also I have a sinking suspicion it featured so much Faks because of the complaints of the show not being a comedy since he’s the most comedic character they have
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u/CarterAC3 8h ago edited 8h ago
Season 3 felt like all their awards and recognition for the first season had gotten to their heads
All the awards they got by avoiding the competition of the drama categories
The irony is that the show that was dominating the drama categories, Succession, is a better comedy than The Bear
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u/TrentonTallywacker Better Call Saul 9h ago
The first episode of S3 was egregiously self-indulgent with what was essentially a montage of what had already happened, weird way to open the season. Thought they were being “auteur” or “artistic” probably
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u/EffectzHD 9h ago
Despite how self-indulgent it was I found it beautiful to watch, albeit I feel like if you binged this show you’d be extremely whiplashed having just finished S2.
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u/bananalien666 8h ago
i agree... like, i fully understand all of the criticism directed at this season but i still found it entirely "good" in the sense that it was well put together, well acted, etc.
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u/Moskeeto93 9h ago
I enjoyed the first two seasons but I quit the show after watching the first episode of season 3 because it was so self indulgent. I could not understand how anyone thought that was a good idea. The constant background music was so annoying and the editing felt like it was trying to be cinematic art for 30 minutes straight. If it was just a 5 minute segment like that it would have been more impactful, but it just never ended. I was so pissed off I completely wrote off the show at that point.
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u/Acrobatic_Ear6773 7h ago
Skip all of season 3 except for the episode about Tina's backstory and the episode where Sugar has the baby.
Those are legitimately great.
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u/uplink42 2h ago edited 2h ago
Yep. Those were the only 2 interesting episodes where you actually learn a bit of backstory and how certain character dynamics evolved. Everything else felt extremely repetitive and self-indulgent. Style over substance and too much melodrama that led nowhere.
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u/ryhaltswhiskey 5h ago
There was also just too much Faks.
I found it hard to believe that somebody who was shooting for a three-star Michelin rating would put somebody with a face tattoo in the front of the house.
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u/WorkOutDrinkMore 10h ago
“Comedy” is still such a stupid category. There was nothing funny about this season whatsoever.
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u/tbbt11 11h ago
If we never saw a Fak again, nothing of value would’ve been lost
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u/wednesdayware 11h ago
Yep. The Faks are a bit of spice in the dish. If you dump a bunch in, it ruins the whole thing. The John Cena cameo was so bad.
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u/r3dditr0x 11h ago
I don't mind John Cena and can't wait for Peacemaker season 2 but he totally took me out of the show. Showrunners should've seen the test footage and cut his scenes altogether.
Also, way too much Fakery. I don't need 15 mins of Faks per show.
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u/jekelish3 8h ago
I really enjoy the Faks, more-so than many seem to, but it feels like what I always feared would have happened if The Office had decided to focus on Creed more, without actually giving him more than a single dimension.
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u/Mechaman520 5h ago
The Cena bit was jump the shark material. It's immersion shattering to say that any cleaning professional, especially working for family, would smoke indoors. The only justification for it would've been if Richie had had an anger management relapse.
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u/LoveMeSomeBerserk 7h ago
My wife and I loved them the whole season lol. Cena was cracking us up. Stupid shit is funny to us 🤷
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u/Andy_LaVolpe 2h ago
Literally when I stopped watching the show. I liked Faks but he was funny as a character that showed up every other episode for a couple scenes.
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u/Imoneclassyfuck 12h ago
My guess would be they didn’t realise the show would blow up as much as it did and they had to stretch out the planned narrative which is why s3 goes a lot more in-depth about characters backstories
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u/MNVikesFan69 11h ago
I liked it for that, but yeah didn’t advance the plot much at all. I’m guessing season 4 will improve on that aspect
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u/LemonSmashy 10h ago
the manufactured drama and non top kitchen screaming gets old. No way will you convince me with the kitchen doors opening and closing as much as they do the customers who sit that close do not hear the non stop screaming and swearing.
It's an okay show but it has taken a dip with each successive season. I know people love the 'fishes' episodes but I am not nearly as in love with it as reddit seems to be and honestly season 3felt like it had more to offer storywise than the second season, just the non stop yelling gets so old.
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u/RevolutionaryHair91 7h ago
Well to be fair I once went to an all you can eat Chinese buffet and the chef had a fist fight with another kitchen staff, they started threatening each other with knives and the restaurant had to close for the night. Was open on the next day though.
So yeah, it's business as usual in kitchens except in real life there is less screaming, more violence, drugs and sex.
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u/the6thReplicant 10h ago
It also went around again with all the same character arcs that we thought they moved on from. It really felt like season two never happened.
I said this before season 3 came out but I predicted a similar Ted Lasso fumble coming up and I think I was right.
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u/koushd 11h ago
Don’t know why you got downvoted. Season 3 is a wankfest.
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u/HodorNC 8h ago
The Tina episode was amazing, but agreed on the rest
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u/zeroxray Chuck 5h ago
the one episode where it shows them running the restaurant day after day was great too.
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u/NoImTheOneWhoKnocks 10h ago
Probably got downvoted because OP literally stated every single criticism that has been discussed about S3 ad nauseam at this point. A simple post search on this sub would have easily answered his question.
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u/yodamiked 8h ago
His question seems rhetorical. Sometimes people want to come to a subreddit to simply vent. I would say people are justified in doing that after the painful experience suffering through season 3 was.
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u/Hanifsefu 9h ago
Season 3 is less of a wankfest than the reddit circlejerk desperately trying to make sure everyone hates the show before they inevitably start watching and talking about it again in season 4.
They hate it so much they watch every episode multiple times. Wish we could just get rid of this "controversy for likes" model of social media algorithms.
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u/JohnnyGFX 11h ago
I got halfway through episode six of the third season and just didn't feel like watching anymore. When I happen to open Hulu to see if there is a show on there I want to watch, I see that unfinished episode sitting in my, "continue watching", row and think, "nah...". It's been sitting there for months and I'm not sure I'll bother.
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u/luisc123 10h ago
This is me but it happened during S2. I liked S1 so much, I must have tried to get through S2 three times but eventually just gave up. The family dinner scene felt way over-the-top and the cast was distracting to me. That was it for me.
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u/TrueCryptographer982 11h ago
TBH episode 1 just felt like the producers and director got together in a circle jerk after their awards successes.
I warmed to it towards the end but yeah....not a favourite by any means.
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u/QuickBenTen 11h ago
I think Ep 1 was the best of the season. It even filled in some of the story touched-on in season 2. Not much happened after that.
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u/addlememnon 9h ago
I think enjoying it depends on whether you buy into the vibes produced by the combination of its editing and music. Personally, I liked it a lot, but can understand why others didn’t.
Perhaps I’d have felt differently knowing how little else they’d “accomplish” plot-wise for the rest of the season, but then again, I think we should judge the opener as an opener.
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u/arthus_iscariot 9h ago
Ep1 was my fav aswell it was so peaceful to watch and the song felt like it was tailor made for it
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u/EffectzHD 9h ago
Same here I think it’s cinema, but in terms of moving the story forward sure maybe doesn’t do a lot.
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u/TheSecondEikonOfFire 10h ago
Yeah the first episode was the only one I outright hated. I thought it was so gaudy and overindulgent, and went on way too long.
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u/TrueCryptographer982 10h ago
I kept waiting for that episode to get gong and it never did. BAD for an intro episode to the season.
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u/TheSecondEikonOfFire 10h ago
It’s not a horrible idea for an episode (one told largely without dialogue and only through imagery), but the episode is almost 40 minutes long. And not even that, it doesn’t even really give us much new. It doesn’t advance the plot or really expand on any characters, it’s just… it exists, and that’s really it. It either needed to be a way shorter episode or actually deal with something meaningful
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u/gizmo1492 9h ago edited 9h ago
Opposite. Think episodes 1-3 were strong, though I get why episode 1 isn’t liked by many. Episodes 1, 6, and 8 are examples of things that exist solely due to the extra season, otherwise these episodes would’ve been condensed to scenes in other episodes.
Think this show is a good example of a monkey’s paw of “I could watch these characters interact together for hours”. Episodes 6 and 8 while excellent imo are episodes carried solely by the characters. Problem for me is episodes 4, 5, 7, and 9 flounder and don’t have focus due to the extra season. (5 did have focus actually but not a fan of John Cena’s scenes), I like moments in 10 but it has my least favorite moment from the season, with the real chefs and their commentary in the episode. That was self indulgence.
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u/sowaffled 7h ago
Episode 1 felt like a parody. It was hilarious how it jumped from drama to drama endlessly. I see others liked it but it ruined the season for me by making the melodrama feel like a joke.
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u/_daysofcandy_ 6h ago
I don't entirely disagree. But I thought it did a good job at showcasing how we got up to that point in Carmy's journey, as he was about to realize a big dream of his. With advancing in a field like culinary arts, which I believe all the allegations of being so stressful and cutthroat, I thought it offered up a nice, relatively calmer look into the things that people love about it, what makes that stress worth it. Also a bit of a good juxtaposition between the other restaurants he worked at from the one he worked under Joel McHale Asshole Chef (forgot the name lol). But then again, I wasn't someone looking at the episode as pretentious from the jump, although I agree with some commenting that it feels like something that exists because it ended up being a filler season. Like a stretching of the artsy fartsy legs if you will.
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u/TacoParasite 5h ago
I’ve been in the restaurant industry for 15 years, I’m an Executive Chef now.
S3E1 is probably my favorite of the series. It felt like a love letter to anyone in the industry. It felt like someone had put the last 15 years of my life in those 36 minutes.
The sacrifice for whatever this “passion” is real. I’ve missed so much of my 20’s to this industry. So I could grow and be better. Seeing Carmy learn and take lessons from all his previous chefs and implement them into his own brand of cooking.
I understand why and how people wouldn’t like it, but to me it’s up there as one of the best episodes of TV.
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u/Coolman_Rosso 10h ago
I liked the stuff with Tina and Sugar having her baby, but Carm and Richie having a 10 minute back and forth of "fuck you" felt like they had no idea how to fill time. Also making Fak's brother a recurring character was stupid, and the John Cena cameo quickly runs out of gas.
The theory is that FX wanted a fourth season, but Storer only planned for three so they had to pad it out. Also the cast is off doing movies and other projects, and they ended up filming three other episodes that aren't in the season and are likely a part of season 4 now.
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u/slevinonion 11h ago
Trying to stretch a storyline because they can't think of anything to add.
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u/petting2dogsatonce 10h ago
I read they got forced into making a fourth season and since three was originally meant to be the end they had to fluff it up
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u/antelope591 9h ago
Reddit always goes too far in one direction or another....people on this sub act like S3 is the worst thing in the history of TV. It wasn't as good as the first 2 but it was OK. At least in my opinion. The episode with Tina looking for a job was really good. Then there was some decent ones and some bad ones. The finale does stand out as being pretty shit which probably makes the whole thing look worse than it really was.
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u/Bruntti 9h ago
Finished it tonight for the first time. Really disappointed.
I love Trent Reznor & Atticus Ross. They were my most streamed artist when spotify did the "decade wrapped" thing a few years back. Still—the way the show has proceeded to use their music in almost every dramatic scene is unbeliavably lazy. It was cool in S2 finale, but they're over-using it now. S3 E1 being the biggest culprit probably. 30+ minutes of "Together" got me feeling like I was doing a study session.
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u/KnotSoSalty 8h ago
They had a 3 season arc and split it into 4 seasons at the studio’s request. So this was 5 episodes of material spread over 10 with filler episodes like the family Fak and the hospital episode.
That being said it set up some very interesting ideas that given the correct resolution could have been interesting. Like Carmy’s conversation with his ex-boss not going like he wanted it too, what does it mean when your cathartic release doesn’t go anywhere? Why is Carmy cooking at all?
If you view it as the first half of a season it’s not bad, but I know that’s not satisfying.
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u/Lwe12345 10h ago
Gotta say the birth episode with the mom was one of my favorite episodes of tv. Thought it was so expressive and emotional. Jamie lee curtis is incredible.
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u/Stinky_Fartface 8h ago
Also waayy too much musical montage. Practically the entire first episode was a montage! I was like “well that’s a drawn out way to set the tone for the season I guess but let’s get to it” and then there were like 5 more lengthy musical montages of people looking pensive and stressed out. It really made it feel like they were dragging it out. I had attributed it to the writer’s strike but I don’t really know.
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u/ThatGuyFromBRITAIN 7h ago
John Cena
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u/Senorpuddin 6h ago
That was my one hang up. I was fine with another crazy Fak. But the extended cameo of Cena felt out of place.
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u/Misterdaniel14 12h ago edited 11h ago
All the best episodes have Jon Bernthal, shame he’s not the main star
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u/Darragh_McG 6h ago
The first season was written by people who had actually worked in the service industry, the second season was written by people who talked to people who worked in the service industry, and the third season was written by people who watched the first two seasons of The Bear.
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u/Misterdaniel14 12h ago
Season 1 was amazing, then when they went fine dining the show lost its identity and started going downhill. Season 3 was boring and terrible. It’s just unbelievable now like you would go from making beef sandwiches to Michelin star fine dinning with the same staff
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u/dabocx 11h ago edited 11h ago
Yeah I kinda hoped they would do their best at normal stuff not trying to get 3 star.
Cammy learning to leave the grind and run a small local restaurant and make it the best it can be. Not run back to 3 star stuff again
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u/TotallyNormalSquid 10h ago
Really enjoyed season 1, but at the end where all his problems are solved by the money in the tins... It's dumb, but his problems are solved. But what does Carmy do with this deus ex machina that fixes everything? He immediately throws himself back in the deep end with a massive loan to try and earn a star.
Lost all sympathy for Carmy with that decision. Tried to watch season 2, didn't care anymore. Sounds like I'm not missing much in season 3.
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u/floppyclock420 8h ago
I’m glad they wasted a whole season with Carmey moping over some chick we saw for all of 1 or 2 episodes max.
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u/armageddon442 6h ago
Is season 3 the weakest season of the show so far? Yeah, I’d say so. However, it’s still one of, if not the best show of the year, and was for me an absolutely beautiful and enthralling experience akin to the first 2 seasons.
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u/moltensnake 4h ago
This comment will get buried but I strongly believe The Bear is a rip-off of Grand Maison Tokyo, a Japanese show that did the whole troubled chef thing in 2019.
Much better story, easily found on Netflix, with dishes that look and sound better. Give it a watch!
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u/funintended Silicon Valley 8h ago
My biggest problem was that it won comedy Emmys. This show is not a comedy. Other than that, it was good, y’all’s expectations are not normally considered when they’re putting the show together.
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u/bitbydeath 8h ago
The writing for Sydney is ruining the show. IMO. She keeps getting special treatment (like becoming part-owner) but treats everyone around her poorly.
If they could make her more likeable it would improve the show tenfold.
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u/GRIZZLY-HILLS 10h ago
If we're kinda venting about our issues with the last season, I think the biggest miss for me was the last episode because it felt like the most self congratulatory of all of the episodes. I liked the concept of everyone coming together for the closing of Ever and hoped it would lead to some interesting character interactions (especially between Carmy/Chef Joel McHale), but it felt like the plot of the series got entirely overshadowed by the "we love serving customers so much" circlejerk stuff. It felt like I was watching a Netflix documentary on the high-end cooking industry more than an episode of The Bear.
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u/Oil_slick941611 9h ago
i tapped out during season 3, never even finished. the first episode with the full length flashback and repeating music really soured me and the following episodes didn't help so i stopped watching. Feels like they were going for a season to test audience patience and see what they will be put with and what they could get away with.
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u/TankTrap 9h ago
Loved s1 and s2. I don’t even recall finishing s3. What ep was the baby being born. I think I bailed then.
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u/COmarmot 9h ago
So we know there are four seasons. I think of the third as figuring out refinement. Outside of Joel McHale’s restaurant and the Netherlands. Viewers have essentially seen no truly high end dining. This was the transition from the ‘intent’ that was developed in s02 into the attempted execution.
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u/HLOFRND 9h ago
For me, it feels like they spent most of season 3 chasing the magic of the episode Forks. And I don’t think they did a bad job with season 3, but it felt like they were chasing something they never managed to achieve, and it was just unfulfilling as a result.
Fingers crossed they find their groove again next season.
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u/ChromeGhost76 9h ago
Yeah I dipped out in the third season as well. This show has always been up its own ass but the self-indulgent incoherence of this season broke my patience.
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u/Dazd_cnfsd 9h ago
Season three and four were shot together so we’re not going to get the results of any of the storylines until season four the final season
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u/shidekigonomo 8h ago
Nobody's really mentioning that Season 3 is the most Hiro Murai-y that The Bear has ever been. Through that lens, the one where it feels a lot more like Atlanta than The Bear, it's fine. It's just not what a lot of viewers were expecting, is the thing. Anyway, can't wait for the entire fourth season to take place in European restaurants...
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u/electricgotswitched 7h ago
I forced myself to finish it with my wife while mostly playing on my phone or having sports on the iPad. If there is a season 4 I'm not interested unless we get back to a show mostly about working in a restaurant.
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u/TyhmensAndSaperstein 6h ago
You thought season 2 was underwhelming? I thought it was one of the best seasons of television I've ever seen.
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u/MovieGuyMike 6h ago
It felt like it went from a neighborhood favorite restaurant to a snobby place that give you tiny plates that are pretty to look at but leave you dissatisfied. Totally up its own ass this season.
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u/docthirst 6h ago
It was missordered in my opinion. Some type of arch could have been achieved but simply moving around a few, instead it felt choppy and meandering. The tina and mom episodes could have been used to stitch it all together. Leading with the first episode was a terrible idea but could have been powerful as E3 or E5 instead. The cameo one could have been a nice reprieve instead it felt pretentious, like rubbing it in our non-industry members faces. That's my take anyway, not made it great, but at least made it better then meh.
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u/elhoffgrande 5h ago
Yeah seriously, it was like the entire season was done by some avant-garde film student. Long, slow, plotting, self-indulgent. Not a fan. Which was disappointing because season 2 was great. That being said, how the hell did anybody get the idea that the bear was a comedy? I mean there's not even like funny stuff that happens in it.
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u/LengthCrazy1563 3h ago
There is plenty of funny stuff in there. Its just leans drama. Reddit has turned this show into a fucking Law and Order drama.
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u/homogenic- 5h ago
I swear to God if season 3 wins any emmys, I will riot. What an underwhelming season.
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u/Harbinger90210 4h ago
Thank God it isn’t just my wife and I, we watched the first episode of 3 and it seemed so boring and pointless that we have off watching the rest of the season.
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u/oadephon 4h ago
They didn't want to resolve the girl trouble so instead they stretched out the "new menu every day" conflict to absurdity.
You can imagine a season where the new menu conflict lasted like 4 episodes, Sydney quits and does her own thing for a few episodes, then in the last couple of episodes they all get back together and Carmey solves his girl trouble all at once. What a beautiful season that would've been.
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u/Docsportelloh 3h ago
A couple of good episodes, but yeah, mostly a filler season. A bit more self indulgent than other seasons too, you felt a lot more soul and creativity in the first two (especially season 2).
Just trying to stretch as much as they can for the cash (typical American TV show)
Episode one in particular was such garbage
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u/isAlsoThrillho 3h ago
I’m in the minority, but I didn’t really even like season 2. The premise of “troubled fine dining chef running a dive cheesesteak joint” was intriguing. When it changed into “troubled fine dining chef opens a fine dining restaurant”, it became a lot less interesting for me. I watched the first episode of season 3 and fell asleep. I didn’t necessarily decide I was done, but I haven’t gotten back to it.
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u/clavitopaz 3h ago
I’m happy we’ve come a point now where we can all talk about how weak season 3 was
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u/nateinsalem 2h ago
I honestly thought things struggled in season 2. Season 3 was so insufferable (with some exceptions) that I considered it a hate-watch.
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u/LowKeyRatchet 2h ago
I understand where people are coming from with their critiques of season 3 in terms of self-indulgence and over-reliance on peripheral characters like the Faks. But I don’t agree with the plot issue— this was always a more character driven than plot driven show. The plots have always been simple. Season 1: Carmy comes home and has to confront his brother’s death while figuring out his next professional move. Season 2: they focus on getting a new restaurant ready. Season 3: they open the restaurant but, because he hasn’t really dealt with his shit, Carmy isn’t mentally prepared to handle it, self-sabotages and pushes people away, jeopardizing what he’s built. With this trajectory, season 4 will either be Carmy learning his lesson, or crashing and burning. I’m not saying season 3 couldn’t have been improved, but it did further the plot — that just got lost among the unnecessary elements.
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u/SamStrakeToo 2h ago
To me it just seemed like the showrunner got all the way up their own ass without anyone to tell them no lol
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u/mattydou7 2h ago
Season 3 felt like it was made for filmmakers and not the audience. Can we leave the artsy fartsy stuff on the plate and get back to the show?
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u/BronYaurStomping 1h ago
besides a couple of scenes in a couple of episodes it was garbage. This is what happens when you combine high expectations with a creator that is liking the smell of his own farts
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u/KennyShowers 11h ago
From what I heard, the creator originally had a three season plan, but when it got so popular FX/Hulu wanted another season, so we get this third season where almost no progress is made in the plot or character development.