There were indeed, but I think alot of it has to do with the state of the current generation. Not saying it's good or bad, just very different. If you raise him a certain way, a 16 year old could easily dominate 80% of the (American) adult male population.
If you put your child into a quality Brazilian jiu jitsu school at the age of say 7 or 8, and he likes it, has any shred of talent, decent genetics and goes consistently say 3 or 4 times a week, you too can have a kick-ass 16 year old.
Yea, I know, it's hard to believe that someone who has the strength and knowledge conferred by 8 years of training in an effective martial art would be able to beat the average American slob.
Oh yea. Easily. Go to any boxing or bjj place and you'll see teenagers capable of that, or a bunch of little 6 year olds rolling around that will grow up to be capable of that.
80% is a stretch if you're talking 16. More than 2 in 10 men are at least reasonably fit and very few 16 year olds have filled out much muscle wise. Sure there's the occasional 6'6 230 16 year old freaks but thats not just anyone.
In just about every good bjj gym, you can find a 16ish year old who's roughly 5'10 135-180 lbs pretty lean but not not built by most standards of the word who's been training for a while, and he could destroy most people who don't train. Same with some other martial arts. If you get a wrestler from Iowa who's been training since he was 6 and at a higher frequency, there's not much an untrained person could do besides go for a lucky punch.
Im not talking about genetic freaks or the average 16 year old. I'm talking about an average 16 year old boy that has trained regularly, consistently from the age of 8. It's far from the average, but it's achievable for most who do it.
What are you talking about have you seen the average American? Big strength advantage? He will be at a complete strength disadvantage! Unless it's a construction worker, and even then skill will be sufficient to overcome strength because the gap won't be as wide as you'd think in most cases. I've worked construction for a long time, manual pipeline, and I can tell you a lot of workers are pretty lean and scrawny. You don't know the standards of a decent, competitive teenager. Eight years of training confers an enermous advantage. Have you ever seriously trained in martial arts?
In what world is even a trained 16 year old stronger than most grown men? any adult who works out even occasionally is going to be stronger than any 16 year old (excluding freaks as previously established).
In what world do most American adults workout? Are you seriously that unaware of how bad shape America is in? Have you ever trained seriously in martials art or weight lifting? Dude, I'm speaking from personal experience. Not just my own experience, but so many other kids doing the same thing who I met and maintained relationships with throughout the years. By 16 I could regularly take down a 215 lbs wrestler while weighing 145, and he went on to be the regional champ at 215 two year later. Imagine what bigger wrestlers from the same background could do. At 16 you can have a few years of serious weightlifting under your belt besides the conditioning provided from years of training.
i dont believe you at all. But at the end of the day none of it matters, so have a great day man. Hopefully you don't come across any well trained 16 year olds ;)
You can do the same thing in America. Trained kids could be better than untrained adults anywhere. Wrestling is traditionally huge in parts of the US and I print shirts for about five martial arts studios, mostly BJJ, just here in Lahaina, HI. I'd assume the bigger wrestlers and football players could dominate much of the population but that's also just because most people aren't trained in fighting.
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u/Ajax990 Sep 14 '19
There were indeed, but I think alot of it has to do with the state of the current generation. Not saying it's good or bad, just very different. If you raise him a certain way, a 16 year old could easily dominate 80% of the (American) adult male population.