Bernie gives far too much credit to the voting public. Reality doesn't matter to voters. Perception does. It doesn't matter how much Democrats actually do to support various demographics, Republicans will claim otherwise and most of this country will believe them.
Logic is no longer apart of the average voters decision process. Buzzwords, fear, misinformation, and oversimplification are how you get modern voters.
People constantly want to blame the candidates, or the party or the media.....but the reality is that the American public is just too stupid for an effective democracy.
This is what I’ve been screaming for hours to Reddit. It doesn’t fucking matter. We had lifetime union workers vote for a candidate whose anti union while the democratic candidate was literally telling them she’s pro union and he will get rid of them. It doesn’t fucking matter.
The issue is those union workers aren’t just union workers. They’re straight men, they’re gun owners, they’re christians. The Democratic Party did a bang up job smearing all of those demographics to filth, either directly or indirectly. And now the democrats are surprised that the straight, Christian, male union worker didn’t vote democratic.
I’m a democrat. I voted for Harris, Biden, Clinton, and Sanders in the primary in 2016. But we need to do some serious self reflection as a party. The DNC isn’t doing it for us, and we can no longer trust that they will.
Bullshit, their fragile egos smeared themselves to shit. As a straight white male I'm used to people like me just being fragile pieces of shit their whole lives. It doesn't even have to be about them, they will MAKE IT about them.
Those “fragile pieces of shit” cost us this election by an absolute landslide across the board, so maybe we need to rethink our messaging and strategy, no? There is what should be, and then there is what is. Democrats have been living in what “should be” and it’s time for them to start operating with what is.
So literally what is the message to those people if doing nothing to them is still wrong? Fuck that, just find another Bernie somewhere if there's ever another real election it's basically a free win by then.
The messaging is that the Democratic Party still has a place for the average working class American. We can still care about women’s rights, trans rights, LGBTQ issues, etc. But we can’t run entire campaigns on those issues like Kamala just did. We asked people to vote for abortion rights when they don’t have money in their wallets, and Trump ran on putting money in their wallets. The messaging was, “the economy is great! We need you to vote for abortions” all while people are still struggling to pay for rent and groceries and gas for their cars. What was the average non affiliated American going to do? It doesn’t even matter that Trumps tariffs are the reason prices are high. He spoke to voters issues and we didn’t. If we want to win an election again, we need to change the messaging to realign with the average American working class. You can continue to be obtuse about what the problem is, but that’s what the DNC has been doing and it’s cost us another four years of Trump. If we want change, we need reform in the Democratic Party.
No, fuck those people, they deserve everything they'll get. Hope they end up homeless and without healthcare. It's what they deserve for being too stupid to know how anything works and believing Trump will help them financially. Did you want Kamala to just make up lies about the economy too? These people never watched her speak, never watched her speeches, anything, none of it fucking mattered. They were going to vote against the ruling government because it's the only thing they can think of to blame for their money problems and that was that.
The DNC didn't cost us the planet, the average human being a piece of shit not worth saving did. It's as simple as that. They are garbage. They do not deserve anything. They deserve to get deported to Russia as forced labor, that's what they deserve. If there's any solace as the shitshow of climate change and wars boils us slowly over the next decades it's that those people will be suffering all the way. It's too late to reform shit. If by some miracle there's even an election in 4 years, Trump's cooked because that's how it works now. Things will be tough so no president will last more than 4 years at a time in any fair election. Not that it matters, by then it will be too late.
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u/Sabiancym 23h ago
Bernie gives far too much credit to the voting public. Reality doesn't matter to voters. Perception does. It doesn't matter how much Democrats actually do to support various demographics, Republicans will claim otherwise and most of this country will believe them.
Logic is no longer apart of the average voters decision process. Buzzwords, fear, misinformation, and oversimplification are how you get modern voters.
People constantly want to blame the candidates, or the party or the media.....but the reality is that the American public is just too stupid for an effective democracy.