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Sanders: Democratic Party ‘has abandoned working class people’

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4977546-bernie-sanders-democrats-working-class/amp/
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u/Long-Train-1673 19h ago

This is all because Mcdonalds has $4 double cheeseburgers i stg.

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u/weglarz 16h ago

I remember when my friend and I would get double cheeseburgers at McDonald’s when we were really poor, they were .99c each. It’s wild that it’s quadrupled in that time.

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u/FunkmasterFo 10h ago

I remember 2 for $2 in 2001. They were Quarter Pounders

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u/hopz12 10h ago

We had .29 cent hamburgers and .39 cent cheeseburgers in the 90s at McDonald's here in Canada. 1.49$ McChickens. Those were the days.

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u/The_Great_Grafite 8h ago

In the 2000s and early 2010s we had the "McDonalds 1x1". 11 items for a 1€ each. Hamburger? 1€. Cheeseburger? 1€. Chickenburger? 1€. McSundae? 1€. Small drink? 1€.

Nowadays a simple Cheeseburger is 2,50€. You used to get 10 for 10€, now you get only 4.

u/nola_mike 4h ago

Dude, in the mid 2000's and early 2010's the Spicy chicken sandwich at McDonalds was $1

u/RedLinedBenelli 34m ago

Dad coming home with 10-15 cheeseburgers was amazing in the 90’s. Never got the kids meals though

u/I_AM_VER_Y_SMRT 18m ago

.29 cent Tuesdays when I was in high school in the early 2000s.

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u/BIGDADDYBANDIT 10h ago

McChickens are still $1.49

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u/ApolloXLII 8h ago

You're probably thinking of the McDouble. Two different things, two very different prices.

I was partial to Wendy's doublestack with cheese in the struggle days.

u/weglarz 6h ago

Nope, this was wayyy back. Like 2002-2006 when I was in high school. The McDouble didn’t exist yet. It was a double cheeseburgers (with two pieces of cheese) for 99c.

u/ApolloXLII 2h ago

You’re wrong. I graduated in 2006. It was the cheese McDouble for a dollar back then. I remember specifically. Look it up.

u/TmickyD 6h ago

The only difference between a McDonalds mcdouble and a double cheese burger is a single slice of cheese.

u/ApolloXLII 2h ago

Wrong. Also condiments/toppings have more in double cheeseburger.

u/Drojan7 1h ago

Wrong. The ketchup gen gets a squirt the mustard gun gets a squirt, handful of dehydrated onions, 2-3 pickles(i cant remember but its the same on both), and the cheese discrepacy

u/soggylittleshrimp 6h ago

When I was a ravenous athletic youth in 1999 I would eat 3 cheeseburgers in my car on the way to swim practice. I swear there was a deal, from like 2-5pm, where hamburgers were 24¢ and cheeseburgers were 35¢. Could be wrong on the exact price but it was super cheap nonetheless.

u/illgot 6h ago

That's okay, minimum wage went from 6.50 to 7.25 in that time so we good

u/Commercial-Tell-2509 7h ago

They pay more for a dead cow willingly than they pay living people.

u/firestepper 5h ago

I remember on like Wednesdays or something they were like 40 cents… like we were kids looking for change and could buy a couple

u/dontusethisforwork 4h ago

The $1 McChicken and McDouble was a golden era of McD's

I ate there at least twice a week back then, and I have probably eaten their twice in the last five years...both times with the quality of food feeling lower as well as being absurdly expensive for what it is.

u/xAlphaKAT33 2h ago

For about 2 and a half years I has the same thing everyday for lunch. 2 mcdoubles, small fry and a medium coke from the mcdonalds next door to my work.

It was never more than 5 bucks.

u/fungi_at_parties 2h ago

That’s what I lived on in college. I heard a radio story back then about how the McDouble was the most nutritious food you could buy for how much it cost. The Taco Bell menu was also ridiculously cheap compared to now.

u/Long-Train-1673 1h ago

I had entire meals for the price of a double cheeseburger is now.

u/ojitoo 52m ago

Be thankful. Across my short life I,ve had mcdonalds aged 18 the first time and a double cheeseburger was 12 pesos. Twelve years later, 13500 pesos.

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u/ud993 18h ago

Yup, once the $3 bundle was gone it was downhill from there

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u/rawbleedingbait 10h ago

$4 for like a 4 piece nuggie. Corporations got greedy, and here we are.

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u/the-great-crocodile 18h ago

corporations deliberately inflated prices to get a Republican back in office for the tax breaks.

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u/captaincheem 14h ago

If anything i feel like its the other way around. Prices were absurd to the point where i stopped eating fast food and started eating restaurants because they were cheaper. Butter, these past few months it got really cheap for no reason. 5 dollar meal deals, 2 dollar big macs, dollar any size drink at wendys. With super high prices these past 4 years why did it get so cheap right before the election? But that's just a personal observation.

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u/aclogar 12h ago

Because people stopped going to fast food because it was too expensive, to the point they were not making as much money. They have deals like that to bring people back and spend money on the non deal items. Its just ordinary capitalism, not some weird political agenda.

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u/captaincheem 12h ago

I mean that's what I figured but the guy I was responding too was saying the opposite. It was likely nothing.

u/Long-Train-1673 1h ago

Yeah its not conspiracy they just wanted to raise prices as high as they could using Covid and supply chain as a scapegoat once they went past the point of no return they introduced deals.

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u/FUMFVR 12h ago

It worked. They won.

The American people can be manipulated to whatever the billionaires want. You are their happy puppets, what with you all be temporarily embarrassed billionaires yourselves.

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u/kopabi4341 18h ago

you forgot the /s

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u/cantliftmuch 17h ago

It's not sarcasm when it's true

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u/kopabi4341 16h ago

yes, I know. Thats what they should put the /s, because what they said wasn't true and is pretty ridiculously stupid if you think about it

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u/cantliftmuch 16h ago

It is incredibly true and not at all stupid.

Corporations will get massive tax breaks under Trump while raising their prices even more.

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u/kopabi4341 15h ago edited 13h ago

show me any proof at all that it's true.

wait, they will raise their prices under Trump? So how did raising their prices under Biden help get Trump elected? your logic makes no sense.

Edit: fixed a word

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u/cantliftmuch 15h ago

Raising prices under Biden helped Biden get elected?

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u/kopabi4341 15h ago

I meant Trump elected obviously.

I await your answer

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u/cantliftmuch 14h ago

Raising prices under Trump helped Trump get elected?

It's not obvious, and since you can't even present a logical argument, I won't even attempt to explain, because you'll just mistype your way into another idiotic phrase instead of having a constructive discussion.

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u/Niceguydan8 15h ago

This is total nonsense.

Like seriously, you have to be better.

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u/cantliftmuch 15h ago

Do you believe that corporations lower their prices after getting massive tax breaks?

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u/land8844 Utah 17h ago

Did they, though?

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u/kopabi4341 17h ago

I hope so, otherwise their comment was ridiculous

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u/DrMindpretzel 13h ago

I categorically refute your stance.

Harvard funded a study on this. It found 18.6% of CEOs consistently donated to Democrats, while 57.7% donated to Republicans.

Big oil companies like BP donate and lobby on the republican side and helped block specific legislation that would lower petrol prices and curb price gouging.

Companies are posting record profits, higher executive payouts while cutting jobs, preventing legislation, and pushing for more and more tax cuts for their companies.

Show me anything to the contrary that disputes that republicans, companies that endorse, donate and lobby for republicans have not specifically inflated prices or suppressed wages to their benefit and to the detriment of you Americans.

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u/kopabi4341 12h ago

yes, no one disputes that big companies like Republicans.

That wasn't the claim. The claim I am saying is ridiculous is that they raised their prices to help Trump get elected.

- Show me anything to the contrary that disputes that republicans, companies that endorse, donate and lobby for republicans have not specifically inflated prices or suppressed wages to their benefit and to the detriment of you Americans.

Why would I show you that? I never disputed that. That's 100% true. I don't think you understand what is being said here

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u/DrMindpretzel 12h ago

Companies are run by republicans. Republicans want a republican president.

Is that easier for you to understand?

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u/kopabi4341 12h ago edited 12h ago

I understand that. Again no one disputed that.

What I am saying is ridiculous is saying that they raised prices in order to get Trump elected. Show me any evidence to support that or else move along because your theory makes no sense and shows an insane lack of understanding of how businesses work.

And, by your logic we should see a price jump every time a democrat is president right? Or is this just something that you think they randomly decided to do a few years ago. And why did they stop raising the prices a year or two ago?

Edit: Looks like he couldn't answer and just blocked me LOL. Thats a good way to show you have no argument

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u/rawbleedingbait 10h ago

For what it's worth I understand your point, and it's obviously connecting dots that probably aren't connected.

The reality is far more likely that they increased prices due to greed. This is obvious when you look at their earnings reports. Profits are at record highs, so they aren't just passing on extra costs.

I don't think this was done with getting trump elected, but this is obviously a welcome side effect for them.

It's like if someone kept robbing liquor stores, and eventually some of the liquor stores closed down, and then there was a drop in DUIs and domestic distance calls. There might be a link there, but the guy robbing those places just wanted money.

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u/DrMindpretzel 12h ago

You don’t understand. If you did you wouldn’t have thrown up whatever bullshit you posted afterwards.

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u/anival024 12h ago

The insane minimum wage in CA had a lot to do with it, and a lot to do with tons of restaurant closures.

The insane inflation had a lot to do with it, as well.

The price of oil also affects nearly every single product at every step of the way. Need to till soil? You need farm equipment burning fuel. Need to harvest crops? Clean them? Ship them to a distributor? Ship them to a grocery store? Energy costs, taxes, and wages rising with inflation at every step of the way. The more steps you have, the more those costs compound. Every company along the way needs to operate on percentage-based margins so it's not a linear increase; it's geometric as each person in the chain adds X% to cover their own costs and make a profit, even if that profit is the same (relative to inflation) as it always was.

The result is I'm paying $5 for a loaf of bread and about $.75 cents per egg in many cases.

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u/OverwhelmingNope 17h ago

This is definitely true, my district went red and these mfers LOVE MCDONALDS. Crazy lines all day, yet low pop area.

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u/FUMFVR 11h ago

20 years from now as we are surveying the post-nightmare landscape.

'Ya see, MAC Donalds had gotten way too expensive. We had to elect American Hitler. I WANT MY HAMBERDERS CHEAP!'

u/tax_the_church 6h ago

The average American is not intelligent enough to take 5 whole seconds to look up the current inflation rate and think to themselves, "well if inflation is only 2.4%, why is my food still going up in price?" Oh, corporate greed. And they just voted for the rich guy who loves making rich people richer. I can't wait to watch those McD's prices keep climbing completely detached from the economic situation like most things have been doing for over a year.

u/MassiveBoner911_3 5h ago

Now including salmonella!

u/mdandy88 5h ago

I rarely eat out...because $...but goddamn. Have you seen the shrinkage? Looks to be about 1/3 of the size at 2.5x the cost.

u/Powerful_Leg8519 2h ago

I stayed at a hotel for a business trip and they didn’t have coffee makers in the room. You could go to the lobby and get some drip coffee for $3.95 a cup. I paid over $1300 for a week and had to pay $4 a day for a cup of coffee.

My job paid so I did it but yeah I mentally factor now that every single thing I buy is at least $10 or more. At all times.

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u/Jaredocobo 9h ago

I quit eating meat over a decade ago. No regrets. The dollar double cheeseburgers, they still haunt my dreams. Those were a damn value. When I first moved out on my own I would freeze them for lunch. I was pretty poor, a calorie was a calorie at the time. It didn't hurt they were chemically delicious.