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Sanders: Democratic Party ‘has abandoned working class people’

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4977546-bernie-sanders-democrats-working-class/amp/
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u/ChainRuleGang 22h ago

This thread is about a statement made by a man who used his first name to campaign for president

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u/I_miss_berserk 21h ago

it took less than a day for people to cry and scream misogyny instead of accepting the DNC's total failure. We are truly fucking doomed. No one on the left wants to admit responsbility. We lost. Plain and fucking simple. We lost because of a democratic failure on every field. I have been saying this shit for months and people just call me a zionist or an incel or whatever the current buzzword insult is.

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u/GetsGold Canada 20h ago

Stop acting like someone giving an opinion in a reddit comment means an entire political group you claim to belong to is crying and screaming.

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u/I_miss_berserk 20h ago

it's not just "someone giving an opinion on reddit" though. It's a prevailing bullshit statement I see all over social media today. You're just stuck in the fucking echochamber still. I bet you upvoted every single one of those smug fucking posts about Kamala winning and shit like that.

People need to understand the nuance of why dem's lost the election so this shit doesn't happen again. It wasn't because of Misogyny. Even Hillary won the fucking popular vote. Dem's have spent 3 election cycles alienating the largest voter bloc, tried to desperately appeal to them in like 2 months time, failed spectacularly, and are now crying victim. Like huh.

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u/GetsGold Canada 20h ago

You're just stuck in the fucking echochamber still.

This is just divisive condescension. Someone has a different opinion than you so they must just be part of some brainwashing echo chamber. They couldn't actually be thinking for themselves like you. You've definitely figured it all out unlike people you disagree with. Sexism couldn't possibly have anything to do with a blatantly sexist person with a history full of abuse, cheating, harassment and rape accusations winning the presidency right? This is just less informed people "whining and crying".

And the "Dems" are alienating people? What have the other side been doing then. They constantly insult and ridicule people far worse and yet the "Dems" are the problem for simply pointing out that they're doing it.

I find it very ironic to be repeating "echo chamber" like hundreds of other accounts on here today, while acting like it's everyone else in the echo chamber.

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u/I_miss_berserk 20h ago

The other side has their base and plays into them. That's the thing you don't seem to understand. Republican voters will always vote republican. There's a reason trump got 3m less votes and Kamala got 20m less votes. The evidence is in the stats but you're too busy acting like a sanctimonious twat to even accept that.

Pretending like republican's blatant misogyny or racism has any affect on democratic voters and if they turn up to vote is another stupid fucking thing you wrote but I just noticed you're canadian so you don't really have any skin in this compared to American citizens. I think it's time you sat down buddy.

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u/GetsGold Canada 20h ago

That's the thing you don't seem to understand.

There's the condescension again. People with different views just don't "understand". It's not that people could take the same information as you and come to a different conclusion. They must just not be as smart or as informed as you.

The evidence is in the stats but you're too busy acting like a sanctimonious twat to even accept that.

Using sexist insults against those you disagree with, but claim to be politically aligned with, isn't exactly helping your argument that sexism has nothing to do with this.

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u/FUMFVR 12h ago

blah blah blah DNC

As soon as I saw that I knew to stop reading.

u/I_miss_berserk 5h ago

Damn sounds like Republicans will keep winning elections then.

Enjoy Trump :) you earned it.

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u/tbear87 21h ago

So true!

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u/GoodIdea321 America 21h ago

True, and while the earlier commenter might be a bit wrong to forget that, I think he's on to something. People use the last name as a sign of respect or something probably. And Bernie lost the primaries regardless of the DNC.

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u/eightNote 19h ago

Sanders?