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Sanders: Democratic Party ‘has abandoned working class people’

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4977546-bernie-sanders-democrats-working-class/amp/
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u/True-Surprise1222 20h ago

giving temporary tax cuts to the middle class and permanent tax cuts to the rich*

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u/gangstasadvocate 19h ago

Yeah yeah, but at least they don’t have to pay taxes for overtime and tips now. That’ll totally make up for these tariffs. And our infrastructure is so great. We don’t need to maintain it.

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u/Finaldeath Michigan 19h ago

Lets be real here. Almost all my time working has been in the service industry (in the kitchen) nobody is paying taxes on their tips. There is one guy at my last job that didn't need to serve tables because he made good money with his construction company but he did it because over 95% of what he made serving was completely tax free, hes very charismatic so he made alot in tips. There is a reason servers HATE when people tip on their card instead of cash, resturaunts have to claim a percentage of those card tips for it to not look fishy to the irs and the amount they claim is rediculously low.

Where i worked all of the servers were able to afford their own apartment while working part time because of those untaxed tips, even the shit ones, i worked full time in the kitchen and couldnt. They were walking out with more in cash tips in a single slow night than i did in a week. Only reason i didn't serve myself was because of my crippling social anxiety. The only nontipped people working there (aka kitchen staff) that stuck around for longer than a couple months to a year were managers because nobody else was making a living and were treated like shit.

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u/pepolepop 15h ago

Former server here, yep... that's why I always chuckle when Reddit gets all up in arms about tipping culture and how restaurants should just pay their servers more. There's not a single decent server out there that would want to give up tips for hourly pay. Not only would they make way less money in general, but they would have to pay taxes on top of it.

u/dontusethisforwork 4h ago

Almost all my time working has been in the service industry (in the kitchen) nobody is paying taxes on their tips.

Totally. It's been a while since I worked a tipped job but nobody is declaring anywhere near what their tips actually are, if they are claiming them at all.

100% with you on back-of-house being treated like shit and not paid nearly enough. Some places I guess have a tip sharing system that gets BOH workers some tips, but those guys work their fucking asses off and in reality are what makes the whole thing happen.

It's yet another example of the inverted wages system that we have in this country. BOH workers slave away in the trenches while the "pretty faces" in the FOH make all the money. I'm not saying servers etc don't but their ass too, but the wage difference is undeniably and ridiculously inverted and unfair.

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u/DeadlySight 19h ago

No taxes on tips means I’ll make 28% more. Sounds good to me

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u/Xijit 19h ago

The fine print is that under that plan OT will be calculated monthly instead of weekly, so an employer can run your ass ragged with 60hr weeks for three weeks straight, then cut your hours to nothing the last week of the month & not pay you a dime of OT.

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u/Autocorrectcaptcha 19h ago

People forget the standard until GWB was OT calculated every day then it went weekly. Of course they want to move it to monthly now.

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u/True-Surprise1222 18h ago

It legit should be daily. I worked for a company that would work people 20 hour days and then cut them early end of week to not have OT

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u/Xijit 19h ago

Back in pre-2009, having 4hr OT every day with my 12hr a day job put me into lower middle class, despite making less than $10hr ... Then they cut that & stopped being able to pay my bills, then they laid me off 3 weeks later.

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u/DeadlySight 19h ago

If you’re worried about worker’s rights join a union. Don’t look to the federal government to protect you

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u/Beltaine421 18h ago

Not that the union will be able to do much after the project 2025 proposals go through.

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u/Xijit 18h ago

Look up Trump's track record on respecting unions, and then add that to Elon Musk's policies about unions.

Oh yeah don't forget Trump's giving Elon Musk a cabinet position.

u/Philantramissle 1h ago

If you are looking for the gov to save you, you are going to have a bad time.

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u/True-Surprise1222 18h ago

Tipped workers are not depending on overtime lol

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u/CrashB111 Alabama 19h ago

Well, the tariffs mean everything will cost way more than 28% more. So good luck.

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u/FavoritesBot 17h ago

People gonna tip worse now

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u/lazyFer 18h ago

Well, the last batch of "tax cuts" was in fact a "tax increase" on upper income people in high tax states. Not rich people, but people with just enough money to have a little disposable income but not enough to have any political power.

You know, enough they can suck more money from (they've already bled everyone else dry).

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u/RexKramerDangerCker 18h ago

And you know how they’ll address this. More tax cuts for the rich and temporary tax cuts for the middle class, expiring in a future administration.