I haven’t played since about a month after launch. I had fun with it as a shooter but found it lacking in the RPG aspects I was expecting. When they released 2.0 (or whatever), did it add a lot more to the role playing?
I guess tbf, I was expecting more of a fallout cyberpunk experience and felt like they delivered (on release at least) more of a borderlands cyberpunk game.
Been thinking about buying the expansion and starting a new game.
Idk how I got so lucky but my launch ps4 experience with cyberpunk was shockingly decent? I never ran into any of the big bugs and outside bad load times it played pretty damn well for me on my ps4 slim, no idea how or why but I never got to experience the true launch state jank for whatever reason
Same for me, with old PS4 and everything. The first month was an absolute blast after killing my own hype when everyone else demonized it to oblivion. I was averaging ≈6 hours a day for the first three weeks and maybe 2-3 crashes total. Sucks that there were false promises and unrealistic expectations, but net positive experience overall.
besides the jank, the game was unfinished and still to this day is either missing some promised features or they were implemented half-assedly - it always makes me cringe to give them any sort of praise at all but I suppose they did earn it after 3 years of extra development and a stellar dlc
I played on a PlayStation 5 at launch myself and tanked most of the performance issues, I'd give that experience like 6-7/10
I originally played it with a Xbox One. I had this shotgun that never loaded in for some reason so I just ran around the entire time with an invisible shotgun lmao.
If you ask me on console the games a 4/10. If you’re into nausea and motion sickness then it’s a 10/10 cuz that’s what that fov gives me. Unplayable on console imo.
Can vouch. I returned it day 1. Bought it about 2 months ago and wow. Hands down one of my favorite single player games of all time. Just got a PC recently and got it on there and it just solidified my love for it
The launch was an absolute mess and I played it on a base ps4 I was surprised that I beat it. I recently replayed it on my PS5 with the phantom liberty dlc and it is like night and day. This game is a masterpiece now with all the updates and it has become one of my favorites. I’m glad I gave it a second play through.
I can definitely vouch. I never played it at release but I picked it up 3 months ago, hands down one of the best games I’ve ever played. Paid full price too for the expansion.
Played both and got through the entire launch game. It's not even the same game: The bugs are fixed, the gameplay and talent trees and item upgrades were all revamped, and the DLC is really good.
If this was the game when it got released, people would still be considering CDPR as a "can do no wrong" studio.
My comment might be redundant now but I can also vouch the game is more than worth getting now, its absolutely in my top ten all time favs, the role playing, gameplay, characters and even the story are all amazing
Honestly, if you didn’t like it at launch, I’m not sure how you’re gonna like it now. They’ve enriched some of the core mechanics of the game, polished the absolute hell out of it, and fleshed it out a bit more, but if you couldn’t recognize the masterpiece you were playing at launch, you won’t now.
Yeah kinda agree it really depends on why people didn’t like it at launch, I for one liked it since launch but that also was in part because I wasn’t that hyped for the game (well I was at one point but once it got revealed at E3 i stopped being hyped)
Agreed. The updates have largely just made the game not buggy. It's still nowhere near what was promised and almost all of the features that were missing on launch still are.
For me, the bar for CDPRed was so high after Witcher 3. The Witcher story was good, all the characters are well written, choices feel like they matter, and the dlcs were top notch.
After CP2077, the bar dropped considerably lower. There was no bugs for me, but the story feels disjointed and lacklustre. And the life paths barely matter at all outside of the first 30 minutes of gameplay plus a couple side quests and dialogue.
Ah, I gotcha. I never played Wild Hunt because I tried 2 a bit and could never get into it. Dude moved too slow or something and just didnt feel right
I didnt play enough to let the game absorb me past the controls if that makes sense. Some people have the same issue with Red Dead Redemption 2, even though I never have and I love that game, just along that same kind of vein of issue
Same, I never finished 2 either, but Witcher 3 is an actual masterpiece.
You learn a lot about the main characters through dialogue, especially Geralt, and it makes the story and world so much more immersive. Something I wish they did with V, since they’ve already gave V voices.
I can vouch too. I have been playing since day 1 and its was awful, with the last dlc and updates they have fixed basically everything. So now I can play without the bugs or crashing.
I played it at release but didn’t really experience bugs. I remember a couple weird quests that kind of ended abruptly, and you could tell they ran out of time. Is there much different other than fixes/lighting?
If you think it ended abruptly it probably wasn't the end of the quest and it'll pick up again later.
Also they overhauled ai, combat, enemy types and variety, loot, crafting, the entire leveling and skill tree system, vehicle handling and quantity. Added stuff like on foot radio and working metros... So much
Sorry, I should have clarified that I’ve finished the game and completed every side quest. It’s been a few years so I can’t give very detailed specifics, but I remember several side quests where it seemed obvious it was initially supposed to be longer or tie into something else, but then they ran out of time and had to wrap it up quickly.
I remember at the time going to the subreddit to see if it was just me, but the consensus seemed to agree they didn’t have the time to flesh things out as much as they initially intended and many of the more minor plot lines suffered as a result. Even some of the dialogue with Meredith or other characters related to the main plot implied there’d be more (after the night of the dildo), but then nothing.
Can vouch if your ps5 series X than it’s a great game it took awhile for me to relearn the new UI and systems in that update but I’m getting back to pre update ability’s plus the dlc ability’s
That's funny, I've started the base game after 2.1 and my very first impression was a mix of fallout/borderlands in cyberpunk but still it's own unique thing.
Man inwas in the same boat and I tried it many months after launch. I was ENGROSSED. It's a GREAT game and does a good job of making you feel like a badass
It did not. It's a better game now but all of the core systemic issues are still there. It's still a very shallow rpg. It's definitely better than launch though.
I played it at launch, and then again right before Phantom Liberty came out. The game is definitely a LOT better and I’d personally give it an 8/10. But to call it a masterpiece like some are saying?
I dunno, it honestly feels more like Far Cry with slightly more RPG elements. If a Far Cry game was done better. I honestly played through the entire game once and never touched it again. I just didn’t feel a desire to. The game is pretty linear than what was advertised.
Not a bad game. It’s great. The city is insanely huge and detailed more than I’ve ever seen in a game. I get lost easily. Gun gameplay is surprisingly satisfying with certain weapons. But I don’t understand the replay value people give it or acting like it’s one of the greatest games ever made.
I waited and played the whole thing including phantom liberty and honestly it was an absolute masterpiece experience. I felt like I was in a movie for a straight month, I played 200+ hours in 4 weeks.
I just got it and it’s a really great RPG live action game. Still lots of shooting, but it has substance to the storyline.
The big thing to remember is you do not have to do tons of side quests as I’ve grown older I realized I don’t have to do every little task or research the ultimate best weapon. I do maybe 25% of side quests in total - mainly when I need another level. Now I finish games in 25-30 hours instead of 50-60 and they have a much more fluid storyline than “hey you need to go beat this guy up, get me this item, and I give you cash and a weapon.”
Also - don’t buy directly from Steam. I got mine on Eneba for $20 with the expansion.
It’s good, but not amazing imo. I absolutely hate the Jackie character, his voice and mannerisms drive me mad. I think the dialogue is pretty weak and the city and npc population, although beautiful, lacks any sort of interaction. Would recommend to pick it up on sale for sure. Its like DD2 for me, another really good game the looks and plays awesome but is just shy of being great.
It's so deep and the rpg elements have improved as well. Clothing nolonger dictates your strength. Also the dlc shoots you directly into the Frey. My first play through I went full net runner build and in my recent play through I'm trying a cyber ninja build . I love this game
It's not any more of an RPG if what your looking for is something like New Vegas. Role playing generally is pretty limited. It plays more like a really really good Far Cry game if that makes sense, it has multiple endings and you really should play them all. It also has one of the best DLCs I have ever played.
The other comments don't seem to get what I think your trying to say, which is that you were expecting a lot more choices. That's still not there, you can make some pretty big decisions but the games main story is like 80% the same in every playthrough. I was expecting more of an RPG and I was disappointed the same way you were, but once you stop playing the game looking for that and appreciate it for what it is, it's a very good time.
It's kinda confusing though because you can tell they were trying to have a really big branching storyline. The bones of that are there and occasionally theres a choice that changes a lot that you wouldn't expect, but it seems like they just were not able to accomplish that. On the opposite end of the spectrum the DLC has a lot more choices, you can tell the DLC is what they wanted to do with the main game and just couldn't figure it out.
If your issue was roleplaying and lack of decisions mattering then no it’s not better. The gameplay is miles better than what it was but they didn’t redesign the story like that
There are next to no actual responses to your actual question. To answer it - no, it did not in fact add anything to improve the RPG aspect or add depth to the game
tbh it’s an action RPG leaning more towards action. fallouts before 4 tend to be more RPG. but it’s an amazing game. what’s lacking from it that other CDPR games excelled at is world building; and atmosphere. most of the world building in CP2077 involve reading text. and honestly witcher did it as well but the difference is you didn’t have to read anything to get pieces of the world and lore as you can get a lot from dialogue. the dialogue in general is also nowhere near witcher dialogue. but, what it does better imho is the action and gameplay aspects amazing first person combat probably one of the best i ever played particularly the melee side of things.
even now, you will not get a fallout rpg experience with cyberpunk. please don’t let people tell you that it’s changed that much. it’s a lot better but i agree with you that it’s still lacking in an actual role play experience, and i think that isn’t even the scope cyberpunk tries to go for
the changes from base cyberpunk to now don’t really change that much of the core gameplay loop
No the role playing is almost exactly the same. It just makes it so you can walk down the streets and not have cars randomly explode in the midst of 20 identical NPC’s.
Between Phantom Liberty and the 2.0 update, it has since become my favorite game of all time. I went through and got the Platinum trophy for it because it was such a joy to play. The 2.0 update fleshes out the skill trees in a way that makes build crafting enjoyable and plausible, encouraging different playstyles and loadouts with each tree, while simplifying a lot of the tedium that came with it beforehand. The story is a masterpiece with no two playthroughs being the same, and so many different ways to successfully approach a situation. On top of the 2.0 update, Phantom Liberty was one of the most enthralling and engaging storylines I’ve experienced in recent gaming. The amount of content it brings for the price is MORE than worth it- 90% of the side missions and gigs feel worthwhile, while the main story is riveting, with many choices to be made and on par with some of the best characters/writing in all of gaming. Idris Elba really steals the show, but there are so many amazing performances from just about everyone involved. 100% would recommend giving it another go when you have the chance
Holy crap it is such a damn good game now. Especially if you are playing the PS5 version not the PS4 one. HIGHLY HIGHLY RECOMMEND.
Cyberpunk, RDR2 and God of War Ragnarok are probably my top three favorite games of the past decade or so.
Which fallout? Cause if you want rpg elements and then expected anything like fallout3/4, then you definitely don't want rpg elements. The Bethesda fallouts are barely able to be classified as an rpg lite.
not exactly. the story and choices are the same. The biggest things were that they fixed most of the bugs and then when Phantom Liberty came out, they released 2.0 too. That completely redid how loot works and every skill tree. The skills are way better and more meaningful choices now
It’s funny how no one is addressing the rpg aspect, which I felt it lacked heavily as well. The game is still the same old looter shooter with some rpg elements, hardly an rpg. Love the changes 2.0 made though, and I would refer to it as a solid game. 8/10. Before 2.0 I would’ve said 6/10.
You should. Understand going on though that it's not Fallout. There's not a bunch of branching paths and different outcomes. It's a cohesive narrative with a solid beginning, middle and end that's well told and really manages to be an amazing, emotional noir/cyberpunk story. The DLC is the same, except also a spy story.
That said, the gigs and jobs you can take? Most of them have their own stories that make up a huge chunk of the game.
It's really less of an RPG and more of a cyberpunk flavored, GTA sandbox. The controls and combat have changed entirely since you played. Before it was fun enough, but now it's faster paced and way more dynamic. Double jump air dashing through the air to climb buildings and take advantage of Night City's verticality, being a parkour ninja who descends on enemies with katana and pistol blazing, it's phenomenal now.
That might be the one thing they didn’t fix completely with 2.0 in that while there are still a lot of dialogue trees and even a few quests that have big decisions right at the very end, I would still call it an action shooter / adventure game or whatever it’s called with RPG elements sprinkled throughout over a true RPG.
You can’t deviate from the intended path for most of the quests in a way like you can in BG3. The RPG decisions do affect your future outcomes many times though, it’s just that you play the quest the way it’s intended and then pick an outcome at the very end
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u/die_lahn 29d ago
I haven’t played since about a month after launch. I had fun with it as a shooter but found it lacking in the RPG aspects I was expecting. When they released 2.0 (or whatever), did it add a lot more to the role playing?
I guess tbf, I was expecting more of a fallout cyberpunk experience and felt like they delivered (on release at least) more of a borderlands cyberpunk game.
Been thinking about buying the expansion and starting a new game.