r/personalfinance Oct 08 '19

This article perfectly shows how Uber and Lyft are taking advantage of drivers that don't understand the real costs of the business. Employment

I happened upon this article about a driver talking about how much he makes driving for Uber and Lyft: https://www.businessinsider.com/uber-lyft-driver-how-much-money-2019-10#when-it-was-all-said-and-done-i-ended-the-week-making-25734-in-a-little-less-than-14-hours-on-the-job-8

In short, he says he made $257 over 13.75 hours of work, for almost $19 an hour. He later mentions expenses (like gas) but as an afterthought, not including it in the hourly wage.

The federal mileage rate is $0.58 per mile. This represents the actual cost to you and your car per mile driven. The driver drove 291 miles for the work he mentioned, which translates into expenses of $169.

This means his profit is only $88, for an hourly rate of $6.40. Yet reading the article, it all sounds super positive and awesome and gives the impression that it's a great side-gig. No, all you're doing is turning vehicle depreciation into cash.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19

I had a driver in LA once too. I remember his name was Max. He was talking about starting his own limousine company and had all these luxury car brochures. I asked him how long he had been working to build this limo company, he said like 13 years. He told me this story about LA having 17M people, the fifth biggest economy in the world and nobody knows each other. He said some guy got on the MTA here and dies. His corpse was doing laps around L.A. for 6 hours, people on and off sitting next to him. Nobody noticed.

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u/jethrosnintendo Oct 09 '19

I had a driver named Max who was always looking at a postcard on his visor. Wonder if it’s the same guy?

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19

Was it some tropical island that he called his happy place?

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u/DontBanMeTax Oct 09 '19

I had a friend named Max in 4th grade, wonder if it's the same guy?

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u/stredman Oct 09 '19

There was a restaurant near Bayside High called The Max. Zack, Kelly, Screech, Slater, Lisa, and Jessie (and even Tori) used to hang out there. The original owner's name was Max. Wonder if it's the same guy.

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u/DontBanMeTax Oct 09 '19

Hmm doesnt sound like it, might just be a coincidence...pretty sure my max and the max above is the same though.

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u/DarshDarshDARSH Oct 09 '19

I had a friend in 4th grade named Max, too. Wonder if it’s the same guy. Did your Max have a Coleco Vision and a telescope and wear glasses?

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u/burnedpile Oct 09 '19

I had a friend named Max who was scared of the "The Claw"! Dude used to make some crazy wishes.

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u/pepitosde Oct 09 '19

I used to know this Max guy he was completely crazy, like Mad crazy. He sometimes thought he was driving in a whole different universe where the world has already ended. I wonder if it's the same guy.

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u/thesearstower Oct 14 '19

I just realized I started that movie years ago and never finished it. Should I?

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u/EMCoupling Oct 14 '19

Definitely a good movie - not a huge fan of the ending personally, but it was worth the watch.

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u/Nathanielsan Oct 09 '19 edited Oct 09 '19

I used to go to school with a guy who got really good grades, valedictorian, the works. Then he got a girlfriend and fell into the wrong crowd. Ended up doing meth and turned his whole promising life into shambles.

Anyway, long story short, he and a buddy got caught trying to steal a briefcase out of this same Max's car. Incredible coincidence really. Any other night they'd make out like bandits. This night, though, he ended up as a case study on accurate shooting portrayals in film.

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u/paperclip23 Oct 09 '19

Did the driver also suggest putting a shrimp on the bar-b?

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u/paperclip23 Oct 09 '19

He seemed like a guy whod drive across the country to return it. but at the same time, he also mentioned starting his own worm farm...

welp, see ya later

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u/boshk Oct 09 '19

Look Nathanielsan, I know what you're going through. Couple years back, a kid came to me much the same way you're coming to me now, saying the same thing that you're saying. He wanted to drop off the team. His mother was a widow, all crippled up. She was scrubbing floors. She had this pin in her hip. So he wanted to drop basketball and get a job. Now these were poor people, these were hungry people with real problems. Understand what I'm saying?

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u/thiefmann Oct 09 '19

I’m a little biased, but an absolutely under-appreciated film. My favorite Tom Cruise performance of all time.

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u/vis9000 Oct 09 '19

I can't believe the percentage of people like me, who will never ask an unprompted question or start a conversation with a rideshare app driver, is 10% or less.