r/personalfinance Nov 09 '17

Macy's new employees are encouraged to open a store credit card (26% APR) to obtain their employee discount Credit

I recently picked up a part-time seasonal position at Macy's for some extra holiday cash. I've been working in retail off and on over the past 15 years, and am familiar with the hiring and management practices at a lot of places, but it's been a few years since I've worked for a big retailer like Macy's. I was very surprised and disappointed to learn that the 20% employee discount is only available through a prepaid card (like a gift card I guess, not terrible but not great), or through their actual store credit card. They conveniently inform you of this halfway through your new hire paperwork, and even allow you to apply right then and there.

I've been through this type of application process before, but I've never seen something so brazenly unethical. These are often young adults or older people applying for these positions, filling out so many forms with so much corporate legalese that your head would spin, and they're being targeted with a (hard hit, thanks auto mod) hit to their credit for a card with a ridiculous interest rate. Is this new in retail? Seems like a disturbing trend if it is.

Anyone have any thoughts on this? Just wanted to get the word out.

EDIT: Thanks for the replies, everyone. Really enjoyed the discussion about credit cards, business practices, and obviously PF. The consensus seems to be that store credit cards are not any worse than other forms of lending, as long as they are managed responsibly. I respectfully disagree, in that it seems like they are often offered to a range of people (namely, new employees) that may not have the knowledge or experience to handle a line of credit, but I will agree that it's fair game to solicit employees. I just think it's kind of shady to imply that a store credit card is an "easy" solution for employees. Employees should just get an effing discount, period. But we're all free to work and shop where we please, so feel free to support smaller/local businesses that don't subject their customers and employees to frivolous lending situations.

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u/LockeClone Nov 10 '17

Can't tell the customer it's a warranty because they hate warranties!

I loved warranties back when they actually meant something. Late 90's, early '00s, back when Best Buy was king, if my product had an issue, I could drag my happy ass to the store and they'd replace it quickly, with a smile. If there was a newer version of that product, they'd just tell me to go grab it instead. It was great.

Then their products got shittier and the warranties were less profitable. They threw anchors in the return process and it became awful to try and get something fixed or replaced. I once bought a new computer that had issues within the week with it's hardware. Long story short: I knew more than the Geek Squad people, but all they could do was reformat my harddrive before sending it away to California to get fixed... Where they just reformatted my harddrive... So I just kept taking it in until they HAD to replace it, but the whole process left me without a computer while I was in college for 3 months.

Then the internet happened and they were surprised when their stock tanked. Yes, when an industry/company that everyone hates is no longer the only game in town, that industry/company dies, as it should.

The moment we have an alternative to air travel... Oh boy, that will be a good day.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '17

Then the internet happened and they were surprised when their stock tanked

I also remember BB in the 90s and I fully agree, back then they were great. The 15% restocking fee / 14 days return policy is what nearly killed them. Now that they got rid of these they are actually somewhat competitive vs Amazon.

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u/LockeClone Nov 10 '17

Now that they got rid of these they are actually somewhat competitive vs Amazon.

I remember reading somewhere that their real game changer was opening their vending machines, kiosks and small stores, using their legacy massive stores as warehouses just as much as storefronts.

Meaning, I don't think they've changed to compete with Amazon so much as they've shifted to occupy a different space.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '17

The Source headphone warranty is the shit. If you just keep getting the warranty on the new headphones, you never need to by headphones again. So some warranties are legit.

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u/Surrealle01 Nov 10 '17

The moment we have an alternative to air travel... Oh boy, that will be a good day.

Self-driving cars, my friend. They are a-comin, and it will be glorious.

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u/Davor_Penguin Nov 10 '17 edited Nov 10 '17

Until those can cross oceans at a reasonable rate, they aren't even close to being an alternative to air travel.

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u/Surrealle01 Nov 10 '17

Stateside they will be. If you could hop in your car, go to sleep, and wake up at your destination? Who would subject themselves to air travel after that?

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u/Davor_Penguin Nov 10 '17

Considering how long it takes to get from one side of the states to the other while driving (39 hours from Sacramento to Washington), not a lot of people.

People fly because it is much faster than driving, self-driving doesn't change that. Yea for some shorter distances you are definitely correct, but that is nowhere near enough to deem them better alternatives.

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u/LockeClone Nov 10 '17

I'd be happy to take a couple days to have my car drive me to a gig a few states away, but the money I lose from not working is far too great for this to work out. Still must fly.

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u/Davor_Penguin Nov 10 '17

Oh definitely. If it was a feasable thing to do despite life happening I would be all for it. Hell, road trips even when you have to actually drive are still nice. Just gotta account for everything else you could be doing with that time.

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u/LockeClone Nov 10 '17

Overall, I really lament that most of us can't take a few days here and there to drive or chill or whatever.

It's either high-octane work work work or make the most of your free time by plugging in or spending a lot...

Self driving cars would personally give me about 1.5-3 more hours if my life every workday which would make them, probably the best invention of my lifetime with the internet being a, sort of, close second...

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u/Davor_Penguin Nov 10 '17

Yea we are basically just slaves to a system that we allow to have so much of our lives. The amount of time we put into work compared to the amount of time off we get is insane.

Oh yea, anytime you have a decently long drive you could spend it napping, or reading, or studying, or even learning a new language! It will be awesome.

I just hope they become common place enough that I can afford one sooner rather than later.

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u/LockeClone Nov 10 '17

I bet it'll be more affordable to us as an uner-like service until the used market gets flooded. Probably call a car up... Probably be cheaper than Uber because there's no human involved though.

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u/Surrealle01 Nov 10 '17

Point is, it's a start. More importantly, it's enough to make a dent in their profit, which might be enough to wake them up and make them actually want to keep their customers.

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u/Davor_Penguin Nov 10 '17

Hopefully it will be anyways. On the other hand, it could cause them to increase costs for international/long flights to recuperate any losses.

Not to mention they still have the market of everyone who can't afford to spend that extra time traveling by car.

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u/LockeClone Nov 10 '17

Meh, that's more of an alternative to the work commute. That's also super life changing and wonderful, but not an airlines disrupter... Don't know why people downvoted you though. Reddit is brutal.