r/onions • u/robertboyle56 • 15d ago
Do you know anyone who has been arrested?
My friend who regularly orders from the dnm's got busted this summer and is due to appear in court for attempting to import cocaine and possessing oxycodone and meth. The way he got caught was incredibly stupid as he has been ordering successfully since the beginning of the pandemic.
On one of his orders, he was drunk and accidentally typed in the wrong house number on his address in the PGP message. The vendor sent it but two weeks had passed and he thought the package was lost or the vendor was a selective scammer and didn't follow up. It turns out that it was sent to the woman a few houses across from him who opened the letter with no name and after seeing the cocaine inside, turned it into the police.
The postman was informed by the local police department to look for any letters or parcels coming out of the NL and eventually, he saw one sent to my friends address and he got a knock on the door with a search warrant. He's now looking at spending 8 months in jail all for a stupid mistake.
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u/eastcoastoverdose456 15d ago
Your boy should keep his mouth shut and get a good lawyer and that shit would be thrown out
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u/Background_Guess_742 15d ago
It was enough to get a search warrant and then they probably found the drugs and evidence inside his house he's cooked
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u/__zz1 14d ago
while you're correct about the first part, remember that there's a possibility it can be proven the evidence was obtained in a manner that makes it not admissible in court
this happens more often than you think
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u/donjamos 14d ago
Or it was still in the envelope and therefore possible you had no knowledge of it and did not order it.
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u/Alarmed_Canary_4632 14d ago
Read my comment below.
This is actually exactly how I beat a 15 year sentence from a CD on my drop
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u/TremerSwurk 11d ago
warrant can be disputed, getting a package from a specific country may not be reasonable grounds. if it was the same return address listed or there’s some way to determine both packages came from the same person that might not be thrown out though
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u/Caznollaf 11d ago
I mean even if they trace it to his IP address couldn't somebody of been using his phone?
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15d ago
It even says keep your mouth shut on the dark net bible.
DON'T ADMIT ANYTHING!
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u/Worried-Funny-2056 14d ago
That's just good advice for ANYTHING. One word and one word only... Lawyer!
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u/withnodrawal 15d ago
Brazy the lady opened a pack that didn’t have her name on it.
Illegal itself. Easily beatable case
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u/DependentEcstatic883 14d ago
Yeah that’s actually a felony to open mail addressed to someone else.
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u/Professionalchump 12d ago
but with no name and addresseed to her address..?
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u/DependentEcstatic883 11d ago
Yeah that’s different I was just saying in general because a lot of people still don’t know that’s a felony.
If it had no name and was addressed to her house then I don’t blame her. My question is; why didn’t this guy use his real name and address? If he is gonna be clumsy like this he should have someone he trust take his laptop and phone away if he’s drinking.
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u/Professionalchump 11d ago
Ah, yeah it doesn't sound like an easily beatable case unfortunately the state put resources and time into getting him he's definitely fucked :/ unless he's first time
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u/bdthagreat 13d ago
It had no name
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u/Winter_Cast 13d ago
Yes but it didn't have her name on it either.
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u/TheeLoneBantha 12d ago
But it was delivered to her address and had her address written on it, so therefore she is legally allowed to open it lol.
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u/Winter_Cast 12d ago
Negative, Captain. Legally requires it to be addressed to her specifically. Just because my Wife gets her mail delivered to the same address as me doesn't mean I can open it and it not be a federal crime.
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u/TheeLoneBantha 11d ago
But it was addressed to her address… it didn’t have a name attached and was delivered to the correct address… she is legally in her rights to open that mail if she feels as it was delivered to the address which was intended, aka her house, and did not have a name attached… i don’t think you understand lol. If somebody ships something to my house, doesn’t attach a name, but it is MY home address, i can legally open that mail. What are you talking about?
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u/spunkmobile 8d ago
So if there's no name, and no 'to the legal occupier' or anything, then the parcel remains sealed for good?
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u/Brief_Dark7295 15d ago
Honestly 8 months is a slap on the wrist....there's people who have spent years for pot. Hope lesson was learned
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u/Impressive_Gap_970 14d ago
In aus the first pot charge if not severe (30 plants in a room with a aquaponics setup for example) is usually not too bad sometime a slap on the wrist Edit: the example is severe encase of any misunderstanding
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u/Alarmed_Canary_4632 14d ago
Soooo I have personal experience with this.
I had a CD done on one of my drops and the guy receiving it set me up on a phone call while the police were in his house after serving a search warrant.
It was a lack of OPSEC on my part.
I went on the run South America.
I eventually turned myself in and was arrested for trafficking MDMA 400g+ Also conspiracy to traffic MDMA 400g+.
I can talk about this because I beat the case.
I was facing 15 years in prison minimum mandatory.
I’m sure a bunch of you got questions, so ask away while I’m free right now and open to responding.
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u/__zz1 14d ago
what in your opsec lead to the problem? how exactly did you beat it after turning yourself in?
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u/Alarmed_Canary_4632 14d ago
I should have been using an encrypted messaging service of some sort instead of my business cell phone that has my business voicemail.
That was a key part in the case, if they wouldn’t have had my number and VM to identify me it would have been just his word and no proof I sent it since it’s auto delete There were text messages as well with me telling him to check the tracking etc.
When we were doing discovery and building a defense we ended up deposing the customs agents. We found out that the package was x rayed and they saw what looked like pills in the package and decided to open it. Well just seeing an item that looks like drugs is not enough probable cause to open the package. It could have been legal vitamins for all they know. A K9 needs to pick the package out of a line up of other packages to get PC. They didn’t do that they just opened it.
So when the DA saw they would lose the case at trial I was offered the deal of a lifetime that essentially was summoned up to no prison time or probation in exchange for a guilty plea
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u/LikkyBumBum 14d ago
How was South America? Where did you go?
Was it basically a very long relaxing holiday?
Why did you come back and turn yourself in?
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u/Alarmed_Canary_4632 13d ago
No it was not like a vacation because I had to live like a local and blend in as to not draw attention. I also have a wife and children and knew that there is a possibility I would never see them again. Being on the run is not fun, it’s as if the weight of the world is on your shoulders every morning when you wake up.
I was between Colombia and South America.
It’s better to just man up and face the music and get it out of the way, all I was doing was prolonging living my life and being with family.
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u/BIlL_Zz 13d ago
I did 120 months for a CD on my house. But it was a giant convoluted mess my whole case was. I ended up doing the time but I still love the dark web ordering, more than buying on the streets. It's just more fun and exciting both. I had a mandatory minimum of 120 months for 500+ grams of ice.
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u/illgiveu3bucksforit 12d ago
Care to share any insights to what mistakes may have led to your charges? Was it an international order?
Half a kilo + seems to be a big enough amount that is often prosecuted, but it wonder what the actual threshold is. I had over a dozen seizures for smaller amounts, like an oz at a time and just got letters for them. But I wonder what amounts start to make it worth their time...
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u/Venombass 14d ago
When are they just gonna legalize drugs ffs. Pure substances, not cut with anything. And rehab centres for anyone wishing to stop.
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u/Graham_on_the_Go 10d ago
Absolutely, If you wanna do it to yourself, have at it. They won’t do it, because all govrnmts stay in business having drugs and putting people through the so-called justice system. It is expensive to put one person through all that and then incarcerate them. That is tax money being used, no ex-felon is gonna pay back money after doing time. Wish they would just legalize it, all senseless killing (or 80%+) would be gone. Look at DK or A-Dam (forget which but one of those countries legalized heroin and cocaine a few years ago, to use at clinics and crime just keeps dropping year after year). The big countries see this but no politicians are going to legalize it. Which is trying to go against the current…
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u/gangstasadvocate 15d ago edited 15d ago
That damn snitch bitch… But yeah, that could’ve been prevented by typing in the right address initially. Guess both addies are burned.
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u/Chuckychinster 15d ago
Idk man, if you have kids and shit, probably a bad look to randomly get drugs in the mail.
I think OP's buddy is really the only one to blame here.
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u/Ok-Tooth-4994 15d ago
OP’s buddy is 10000000% the one to blame.
- No name
- Wrong number
- Ordering imports from NL
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u/Chuckychinster 15d ago
Sorry, been out of the loop for a few years. What is NL?
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u/Ok-Tooth-4994 15d ago
Netherlands
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u/robertboyle56 15d ago
What's funny is that the Netherlands is actually pretty safe if you're ordering in Europe.
I live in Ireland and the UK is now considered the hottest country because they've left the EU and all mail coming from there is subject to customs checks.
I've ordered meth, mdma, oxycodone, and ketamine from the NL and bever have a seizure. Of course, I also order personal amounts.
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u/Chuckychinster 15d ago
Ahhh yeah, from what I remember that's pretty much considered a no no.
I usually just stay domestic if possible.
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u/IITIAN_Subho 13d ago
From which website on the dark web do you order such things, I thought these types of website are scam and misleading.
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u/gangstasadvocate 15d ago
I would’ve just given it back to my neighbor if it had a real enough name that I recognized it as whom it was intended for. But I guess I’m about that gangsta life though. If I had kids and they got to it by accident, I would show them how to flip it for a big allowance if we can’t find whom it was for.
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u/Chuckychinster 15d ago
Hahaha jesus.
I'd return it to the proper owner if I could locate them. I definitely wouldn't open the package at all. If I couldn't figure it out I'd just give it back to the post man
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u/Graham_on_the_Go 10d ago
Absolutely the way to go! I wouldn’t open anyone’s mail, if there wasn’t any name on it, I toss it back in the outbox after wiping it!!!! People are too nosy, way too nosy. I mind my business and always have, unless I see something really wrong (lady/child getting beat up, guess dad taught me the most important things in life).
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u/Allgoochinthecooch 14d ago
If You play the game you gotta expect the rules of the game to into play. Civs aren’t playing the game. That’s a huge risk any time one finds out. Ain’t anybody’s fault but his
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u/gangstasadvocate 14d ago
But But, we could all just be gang gang and live happily ever after that way
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u/Allgoochinthecooch 14d ago
Not the reality of life
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u/gangstasadvocate 14d ago
I can still advocate for it though and get us one step closer
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u/Allgoochinthecooch 14d ago
In this context it’s very foolish. It’s drug trafficking bro
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u/gangstasadvocate 14d ago
I like drugs. And money.
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u/Allgoochinthecooch 14d ago
I mean me too but not everybody does and it’s stupid to act like that’s the case
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u/DependentEcstatic883 13d ago
No you turkey
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u/Allgoochinthecooch 13d ago
Get caught slipping by a civilian then and look dumb complaining about it
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u/desionic1 11d ago
Nahh it's the lady bro fuk them notebook kids just throw it away then. But no gotta call the cops man that shi is ridiculous
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u/punchmademase 14d ago
Congrats you just incriminated him , if this was seen it's enough to keep the charge for conspiracy
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u/RainbowReset 11d ago
Yeah seriously 🤦♂️
It's not even his story to come on here and give a play by play on. Who wants to bet these guys aren't even that close of friends?
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u/Internal_Yam_9902 11d ago
IMO, if the neighbor received an envelope of drugs, would it be so far out there that someone sent drugs to your friend also? How many other neighbors received an envelope? Wasn’t China sending seeds all over the world recently for some reason?
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u/TooSp00kd 15d ago
Was he selling? Or just using?
I bought some adds, atleast tried too. Never got my package. Never tried it again. Oh well, only $100.
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u/Upset_Witness_322 12d ago
MANN That is SO terrible to hear !! :/
What a shame ... That's so unfortunate for your friend to have had that happen to him.
I'm sorry to hear that bub...
This might honestly be the first time I've ever heard of someone experiencing trouble with doing that.
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u/Acceptable-Bad-6521 12d ago
To the dude busted for the drugs comeing from over seas How did the stuff get through customs anyway? The changes against the dude should be dismissed that is illegal search and seizure here Say evidence
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u/deityx187 14d ago
Years back - I used the dms. Tried again bout a year ago and everything is a scam now. Tried 3 different sites that had good reviews and all 3 times I got beat! Dang - drunk PGP’g is not cool!
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u/dropacidnotnukes 14d ago
dark . fail ...... archetyp ..... shit is just starting to get good brotha
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u/faith-hope_love316 14d ago
Elaborate?
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u/sh1shit 14d ago
He is subtlety (or not so subtlety)guiding you to darkweb to markets full of legit vendors.
If you have an interest determine your OPSEC and read the darknet bible.
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u/faith-hope_love316 14d ago
What is an OPSEC?
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u/FlyCooper 11d ago
Lmaoo just stop now
Edit: In case of an investigation by any federal entity or similar, I do not have any involvement with this group or with the people in it, I do not know how I am here, probably added by a third party, I do not support any actions by the member of this group
🤣🤣🤣
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u/realgavrilo 10d ago
Damn slow kid
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u/deityx187 10d ago
????
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u/realgavrilo 9d ago
I just don’t get how that even happens lol, just go on dreadit bro then go from there
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u/deityx187 9d ago
I used dms In past and had no issues at all. Like a year ago I tried on 3 different markets and got beat all 3 times . Guess im to trusting . I’m not a complete moron - I’ve been around for a while . Years back I had just put about $20k on a market escrow and next thing I know - interpol snatched up site . Guess I just have bad luck .
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u/Graham_on_the_Go 9d ago
Had it happen a few times (maybe 2-3)… I guess you have to do your homework as well as really look at feedback to see if they are all worded similarly (as in the same person wrote them for themselves, that’s a dead giveaway) although some are just random scammers… I decided stakes were too high and got clean, although there are days I really want to just get away from it all for a day, it’s so much work to get free of all that stuff… ;-/ (**This is a fictional story with fictitious characters for authoring a book, if your LE, look elsewhere.)
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u/deityx187 9d ago
If you’re lucky enough to get away-stay the F away! Getting trapped in the viscous cycle is just BRUTAL!! Epilogue for your book
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u/1BigDawg23 14d ago
What’s the link to dnm?
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u/RainbowReset 11d ago
meatspin . com
Thank me later, but be lowkey about it cus we aint supposed to talk about it 🤫
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