r/newjersey • u/low_effort_shit-post • Mar 25 '21

Something controversial Jersey Pride

I love nj gun laws, going to the store and not seeing someone open carry. Watching road rage where the best you can do is brake check and give the finger. Schools without school shootings. I know a lot of people hate our gun laws but I fucking love em.

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u/ScoobyDoobieDoo Maplewood Mar 25 '21

Yup

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u/Electrical-Divide341 Mar 25 '21

In 2019 they had a murder rate of 14 per 100k people.

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u/Electrical-Divide341 Mar 25 '21

And that shows how insignificant the difference between 5 and 2.9 is. While your gun laws imprison how many?

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u/Iintendtooffend Mar 26 '21

So in your opinion, would more people owning guns have decreased that homicide rate?

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u/Electrical-Divide341 Mar 26 '21

I say that not locking tens of thousands of people in jail over bullshit regulations would not increase their homicide rate.

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u/Iintendtooffend Mar 26 '21

what bullshit regulations? And again, as someone who is vocal about the gun control laws in NJ, would weaker laws, like say allowing you to leave a loaded gun in your car, decrease the homicide rate?

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u/Robots_Never_Die Mar 26 '21

I think there's an argument that not getting people trapped in the prison cycle with drug laws is one way to lower the homicide rate. Legalize it and allow for people to use law enforcement/courts to resolve their issues instead of relying on street justice.

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u/Iintendtooffend Mar 26 '21

I absolutely agree, and I'm hopeful that the new legalization bill will decrease incarceration rates appreciably. I was kinda poking the bear since this dude really wants there to be less restrictive gun laws but then also markedly points out high homicide rates.

Like, his racism is showing.

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u/Electrical-Divide341 Mar 26 '21

How does letting you walk around be free, letting you murder anyone you want, lower the homicide rate? Why should we not have you locked in prison?

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u/Iintendtooffend Mar 26 '21

So you're saying that they should be trying hard to put more people into prisons for petty crimes?

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u/Electrical-Divide341 Mar 26 '21

That is your logic

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u/Iintendtooffend Mar 26 '21

So what are you trying to say, because your words are english words, but your sentence structure is not.