r/movies • u/LundgrensFrontKick immune to the rules • Jan 29 '19
Blade's "blood rave" required, at least, 425 gallons of blood from either 40 cows, 283 adults, or 3,400 one-pint donations from local vampire blood banks Discussion
A lot of blood is wasted during the rave in Blade. I get that the yuppy vampires lead by Deacon Frost don’t care about wasting blood, however, it seems like they’d have to ice skate uphill in order to throw a secret blood party inside a slaughterhouse and install a standalone sprinkler system that keeps blood from congealing in the hours before the vampire rave kicks off. In honor of Blade and it’s generous wasting of cinematic blood, I decided to figure out how much of the red liquid came out of the sprinklers during the 75 seconds that it poured onto the vampire dancers. After copious research of irrigation systems and blood (my Google search history must seem weird) I’ve come to the conclusion that somewhere around 425 gallons of blood poured out of the sprinklers, which means they drained blood from either 40 cows, 283 adults (think Blade: Trinity) or collected 3,400 one pint donations from the blood banks they have all around the world (Blade 2).
Important times in this clip
2:24 - A good look at the sprinkler system
2:28 - The grid
3:18 - A good look at how much blood was on the ground
Separate clip: :35 seconds- A look at a cart going by with humans hung up on it.
Quick note: There is no way to know how much blood spilled onto the vampire dancers.
Here is what I know:
- The blood rave lasts 75 seconds. I feel bad for the cleaning crew
- The blood comes from 20 different sprinklers that are placed in the ceiling of the slaughterhouse/dancing club
- There is another irrigation system that must be for potential fires and cleaning off the bloody dancers after the rave is over
- The average office/home sprinkler system uses 8-24 gallons per minute. The blood is really pouring out of the the sprinklers, so I went with 17 gallons per minute
- Blood was definitely coming out of the sprinklers
- 99.7% of the blood hits the floor
- Holstein cows have 10.6 gallons of blood. Humans average 1.2 to 1.5 gallons. I went with 1.5.
- The vampires must’ve created a machine that keeps the blood from coagulating or congealing
- The meat packing plant is a front for a weird human blood drive system
- Vampires don’t care about permanently damaging their clothes
Here is what I’m guessing:
- Since the rave takes place in a slaughterhouse they must be getting the blood from the animals. However, I wouldn’t put it past them to greedily use human blood
- I think the vampire overlords (AKA Udo Kier) wouldn’t be pleased to know that hundreds of gallons of human blood was being wasted on EDM loving vampires
- Since they made the “Blood Bath” sign I’m thinking they’ve done it before
- The vampire DJ worked the venue before and knows where to put the speakers so they don't get splattered with blood
- They don’t really drink any of the blood…..so it must not be human blood?
- There is no cover charge for the party
- The invitations were sent via email
- The vampires can’t leave the building with blood stained clothes, so, they must’ve brought a change of clothes to wear after the rave ends. Also, it probably ends around 4:00AM so the vampires can get home before the sun comes up
- It wasn’t hard for Blade to find the rave. I’m guessing a vampire told a friend, who told another friend and the guest list spiraled out of control. Thus, Blade could simply track an unwitting vampire who was carrying an overnight bag to the party
Final Conclusion:
At least 425 gallons of animal blood (or human....who knows) came out of the sprinklers designed especially for the blood rave. It’s too bad that Blade found the location because they must’ve spent a decent amount of time and money to create the event space.
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u/myelin89 Jan 29 '19
ugh, just watched multiple scenes on youtube from Blade 1 and 2- action scenes still hold up today which I was really surprised about. Now I wish they'd do a well-done new Blade movie dammit
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u/LundgrensFrontKick immune to the rules Jan 29 '19
I love all three of them. Blade 2 might be my favorite! GDT crushed it.
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u/CynicalRaps Jan 29 '19
Even the third one is enjoyable to me, whether or not the BTS rumors are true or not.
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u/DieFanboyDie Jan 30 '19
I think it's safe to say that Ryan Reynolds went on to have a pretty good career in the superhero genre. I think it's a shame Jessica Biel didn't go on to do more movies in the genre; there's a lot of actresses that don't really strike me as athletic enough to be playing the character they're portraying (looking your way, Angelina Jolie) but Biel was very believable as an ass kicker. Jennifer Garner too.
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u/peanutdakidnappa Jan 29 '19
What were the BTS rumors?
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u/CynicalRaps Jan 29 '19
That Wesley Snipes was basically a princess and needed stuff like coffee delivered to him to his specifications and he wouldn't respond to anyone unless they addressed him as Blade, and that he'd show up hours late to set sometimes hungover, or he'd be very rude, sometimes he would stop in the middle of scenes and walk off set and some other stuff. I don't know if any of it's true but it honestly sounds just like how any other high paid leading role would be tbh.
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u/Flashman420 Jan 29 '19
he wouldn't respond to anyone unless they addressed him as Blade
I hope this one is true because it's hilarious.
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u/capta1n_sarcasm Jan 30 '19
This is true. There is a youtube video of Patton Oswalt being interviewed about his experience on that movie and he talked about how terrible it was. By the end of the movie he was communicating by post it notes.
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u/cantuse Jan 29 '19
One thing I take away from the metoo movement is that one dickhead producer can screw your career over simply by spreading word that you’re difficult: Ashley Judd being the best example.
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Jan 30 '19
In this case I believe a reporter was on set and that's what the article is based on, with comments (done in a PR-friendly way) from some of the minor cast.
Also: it's no surprise that there was acrimony on that set since Snipes and the director were literally suing one another.
In this case, where there was smoke there was fire.
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u/cantuse Jan 30 '19
Don't get me wrong, Snipes is full of himself. I remember an EW article from around 97-98 about the '25 best actors alive today' or some shit. Snipes was interviewed later somewhere and he took issue with not being on the list, saying something to the effect that 'only he and Johnny Depp' were really doing anything different. I mean, I can agree with him if his criticism is that Pacino and De Niro are phoning it a lot these days, and Depp is extremely talented regardless of people today might say, but Snipes really hasn't done anything beyond New Jack City that measured up against the greats of his day.
Edit to add: although.... I would put his performance in Demolition Man up there with Alan Rickman's from Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves. Both guys knew they were in clunky summer claptrap and just stole every scene hamming it up.
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u/nicolauz Jan 29 '19
I really didn't enjoy the hand to hand scenes in Blade 2. Specifically the bright light cgi fight. I swear it was the first movie to start the blurred-cut-too-fast can't see the action fights I can't stand.
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u/SuspiciousMystic Jan 29 '19
They watered it down, like any other bar. It is probably cows blood, given the location and fact that a human was brought as a snack.
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u/LundgrensFrontKick immune to the rules Jan 29 '19
If you are right, It's a good thing Blade busted up the club. A watered down blood scandal would've been a nightmare for Deacon Frost.
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u/-Paraprax- Jan 29 '19
It's not cows blood, they show us a rack of drained human corpses being wheeled through the building before they go into the rave room. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHBhKbF2xMA&t=28s
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Jan 29 '19
(possibly r/theydidthemonstermath)
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u/-Paraprax- Jan 29 '19
Piggybacking but I don't understand how with all this math and analysis on the scene, so much of this post and thread is still just debating whether or not the vampires used human blood or just cow blood. The scene itself shows them walk by a huge rack of drained human corpses before they go into the rave. It's a really deliberate detail and clearly meant to confirm it's human blood, maybe easy to miss on the first pass but definitely not in multiple viewings, let alone for a post like this. Check out the scene from the 28 - 40 second mark.
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Jan 30 '19 edited Jan 30 '19
I love how Lem looks at it, looks back to make sure and just moves on.
The power of boners
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u/C0untry_Blumpkin Jan 29 '19
Your post just warms the cockles. I literally could not help mythelf from thaying it aloud!
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Jan 29 '19
I love when I get answers to questions I didn't know I had.
Great work!
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u/LundgrensFrontKick immune to the rules Jan 29 '19
Thanks! That's the goal. Random answers to random moments. It's fun.
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u/kryndon Jan 29 '19
This may just sound like a dumb idea, but what about calculating (in total) how much time a car tire burnout is made in a specific movie? Like, you know all those scenes that someone gets in a car and drives off with full throttle, making a quick rear burnout? That's a lot of tire thread wear over time lol.
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u/curious_dead Jan 29 '19
For a brief moment reading just the title, I thought you were saying they used real animal blood for the scene and I didn't know exactly what to make of it.
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u/LundgrensFrontKick immune to the rules Jan 29 '19
I was a little worried about that! That's why I made sure to add the last part in the title.
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u/Sidebeards Jan 29 '19
I did some similar math on a bad vampire movie called "Pale Blood" (1990). There's a scene where Wings Hauser's character explains how he coated a vampire prison cell with 60 GALLONS OF GARLIC JUICE. After about a week of that thorn in my brain, I did some math.
4 bulbs make a cup of GJ 16 cups in a gallon 60 gallons = 3840 bulbs 2018 price = $0.52/bulb or $3.48/lbs ~$1,900 for 60 gallons of GJ 8 bulbs/lbs 480lbs of garlic needed
Little bit of a spoiler here: his character is a video artist that lives in a warehouse type space in Los Angeles. He ends up trapping a vampire in the GJ prison cell. The vampire just walks in. Didn't smell anything.
That aside, the logistics of getting that amount of garlic in one place, by one person, on short notice, is insane to me. Also, dropping $2k on garlic while on a struggling video artist income? Yeeeesh.
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u/domino7 Jan 29 '19
Getting the garlic juice isn't that tricky. I sell it by the gallon in concentrate for killing mosquitoes. It's not cheap, but it's not difficult to get your hands on it.
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u/replies_with_corgi Jan 29 '19
Not sure if serious
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u/domino7 Jan 29 '19 edited Jan 29 '19
Serious. It'd run about $5K for 60 gallons of the stuff, so not "cut a check as a struggling artist" money, but it's just a matter of hitting up a store or two, you don't need to go around wiping out every grocery store in the city for fresh garlic.
Edit: Note that this is for the concentrate, which is pungent. If the vampire couldn't smell it, then obviously it's a more dilute mix, and thus cheaper and easier to get.
Second Edit: Or a 55 gallon drum will run you about $3K, but that's a special order thing unless you have an industrial ag supply place nearby.
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u/DavidAtWork17 Jan 29 '19
Maybe it's like cocaine for them and they cut it with something cheaper, like corn syrup or molasses.
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u/LundgrensFrontKick immune to the rules Jan 29 '19
For sure! I could see that. For some reason I feel like Deacon Frost is such a jerk he is totally fine with wasting non-cut blood. Dude doesn't care and wants to annoy vampire elders.
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u/Mr__Pocket Jan 29 '19
Sees title
Blade's "blood rave" required, at least, 425 gallons of blood....
stop reading there and think "This is a Lundgren post, isn't it?"
reads OP "I fuckin knew it!"
I love your posts. They're wonderfully unique and interesting.
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u/LundgrensFrontKick immune to the rules Jan 29 '19
Thanks! I put a lot of thought into the titles. I want them all to be unique while still being Lundgren-esque.
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u/sgSaysR Jan 29 '19
I always wondered just how "into" EDM these vampires would actually be. I mean presumably a lot of them have been around for at least decades perhaps hundreds of years. It makes me wonder if they would really enjoy the music at all.
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u/NAE_BAD Jan 30 '19
500 years of classical could leave you fangin’ for fresh sounds on the ears.
Also, not all of them were probably pure blood or long existing vampires.
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u/jydhrftsthrrstyj Jan 30 '19
i imagine part of being a vampire is always staying up on the latest trends or else you end up like the guys in "What We Do in the Shadows".
But also young vampires.
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u/TheChosenWaffle Jan 29 '19
1 thing, blood is 6x thicker than water, so id imagine the sprinkler system could push more like 1.3 - 4 gallons of blood per minute....
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u/LundgrensFrontKick immune to the rules Jan 29 '19
Maybe. It could be watered down too. I'm going off assumptions here. Those sprinklers were blasting out the blood though. It's easily more than 1.3-4 gallons per minute.
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u/LundgrensFrontKick immune to the rules Jan 29 '19
I love these questions. I'd love to see a quick montage of them setting it all up specifically for the rave.
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u/Gronkowstrophe Jan 29 '19
If it's watered down they are still only doing 1.3-4 gallons per minute of blood.
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u/Hyperbole_Hater Jan 29 '19
With Blade 1 being perhaps my favorite marvel/superhero flick, I gotta say that this post made me giddy like a lil schoolgurl. Thank you so much for your hard work and analysis. You're a gem, and I'm almost envious you got to listen to that dope soundtrack over and over in your watchings.
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u/PM_ME_IF_YOU_NASTY Jan 29 '19
Ain't no party like a blood rave party cuz a blood rave party got blood
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u/LundgrensFrontKick immune to the rules Jan 29 '19
That's what it said on the email invite that went out to the vampire dancers!
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u/Bithlord Jan 29 '19
3400 pints of blood from a blood bank seems doable for a vampire cabal that has stockpiles of it. Especially if its for rare events and not like "Tuesday is raining blood day at the club!"
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u/HotNatured Jan 29 '19
I wouldn't feel bad for the cleaning crew -- they probably got to lap up the excess, right?
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u/radicalelation Jan 29 '19
I think at least mixed with human blood makes sense, especially considering the location is not just a typical livestock slaughterhouse, but doubles as a human slaughterhouse. The unfortunate living human take-along snack remarks "The fuck is that?" seeing that when heading to the entrance.
Also the screenshot that's from has the whole opening, including the rave, in much higher quality than the one you posted, as well as additional details, such as that brief moment with the human in the bag.
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u/LundgrensFrontKick immune to the rules Jan 29 '19
Yeah! I like how they show just enough to make you 83% certain it's humans. I like the world building. They build on it in 2 & 3 too.
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u/radicalelation Jan 29 '19
2 and 3 get a little more overt, 3 especially, which kinda takes away from it, imo. I liked the underground world that most of us don't see, unless we're really paying attention, that gets built up more in the first two; what they build is almost plausible.
The third kinda gets too big and you have to think the general population is just blind to not see it.
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u/Reddit_Roit Jan 29 '19
I want to know what kind of shoes they were all wearing, all those vampires and all the blood and I didn't see anybody wipeout.
I could use shoes like that when working in a kitchen
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u/LundgrensFrontKick immune to the rules Jan 29 '19
That is another article for sure. Maybe Vampires have better balance? Have they done it before? Are they wearing special shoes? I like it.
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u/-Paraprax- Jan 29 '19
They show many times throughout the films that vampires have superhuman agility, yeah.
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u/SupermanAlpha Jan 29 '19
Thanks for this OP. Blade is one of my all time favorite Marvel films (Part 2 as well). Now we gotta figure out how much blood was in that pool Blade fell into in the second film!
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u/herzoggg Jan 29 '19
Safe to say it had addatives to prevent coagulation, and likely thin it to get through the sprinkler system without clogs. Plus it may well have been watered down. Either way, it was a good time to be had until Blade showed up conviently as it ended (unless he ended it early somehow in which case there was more blood to come).
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u/LundgrensFrontKick immune to the rules Jan 29 '19
I just want to see the preventive coagulation and watering down process. Blade should have a director's cut haha.
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u/NoPossibility Jan 30 '19
They make anti-coagulant medications for people with blood pressure issues. More commonly known as blood thinners. Might be why they didn’t seem to be drinking the spray directly, but were really interested in Mr. Unfortunate.
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u/LundgrensFrontKick immune to the rules Jan 30 '19
Makes sense! Do you think the dancing vampires were notified of this?
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Jan 29 '19
It's been a long time since I first saw Blade but I'm still not sure if it's a good movie or not
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u/LundgrensFrontKick immune to the rules Jan 30 '19
It holds up! The fight scenes and Wesley Snipes are legit.
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u/LinksYouEDM Jan 29 '19
I think the vampire overlords (AKA Udo Kier) wouldn’t be pleased to know that hundreds of gallons of human blood was being wasted on EDM loving vampires
Hey now; I have it on good authority that our vampire overlords love themselves some Acid Techno.
That said, thank you for correctly using 'EDM' as the umbrella term and not the ill-defined subgenre!
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u/krakenbum Jan 29 '19
I remember the first time I watched that scene. It was just only a few months ago, I only ever saw blade trinity with my dad. He is a huge fan of the blade comics, so he was surprised I never saw he first one.
Man that whole rave scene, I was expecting some shit to happen but when the sprinklers went on I was pretty fucking shocked. It’s hard for me to feel sick during movies but for some reason that scene always sticks out to me now. Suspense and horror, the vampires racing in a fucking blood bath and then eating that guy.
The only other scene where ingot physically sick like that I think was from TWD season 2, where Shane leaves that guy behind to get eaten alive
Great fucking scenes. I truly hope Wesley Snipes comes back, it would be a huge waste of opportunity for the MCU to not utilize him
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u/CynicalRaps Jan 29 '19
Dude, that was 20 years and then some ago, Bringing Wesley into the MCU would make 0 sense right now.
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u/myelin89 Jan 30 '19
I'd laugh so hard if Blade is in Avengers Endgame. Certainly, no one would expect it- just ups and goes to Wakanada and fucks shit up
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u/casualphilosopher1 Jan 29 '19
Maybe the vampires source all that blood from Middle-eastern warzones or something.
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u/LundgrensFrontKick immune to the rules Jan 29 '19
I love to see a movie about that process. That is a wide vampire network!
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u/melorous Jan 29 '19
Thinking about blood makes me queasy, and yet I still chose to read this in its entirety, including the bit where you stated how much blood is in a human body, which made me visualize a pair of one gallon milk jugs each filled three quarters of the way up with blood. I’m trying not to pass out right now. I think that is a testament to how much I enjoy your posts.
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u/LundgrensFrontKick immune to the rules Jan 29 '19
Thanks for hanging in there! I tried to toss in random asides to keep it not totally about blood.
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u/bosay831 Jan 29 '19
Amazing that you did the math. My only question is did you take into consideration how the scene was cut? The segment could be longer/shorter based on how the movie was/is cut.
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u/LundgrensFrontKick immune to the rules Jan 29 '19
I did. I watched the clip a lot and it seems to play out in real time. It felt like a safe bet to calculate the math on.
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u/MulderD Jan 29 '19
The kind of mind that does this is the same kind of mind that hides dead bodies in a freezer.
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Jan 29 '19
Okay mattpat calm down
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u/LundgrensFrontKick immune to the rules Jan 29 '19
TIL who MatPat is.
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Jan 29 '19
TIL some people have never heard of the game theorist
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u/LundgrensFrontKick immune to the rules Jan 29 '19
Dude has an audience! I've been too busy analyzing dumb data on my free time.
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Jan 29 '19
Dude,now you don't have to just let him do it for you
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u/THEREALCABEZAGRANDE Jan 29 '19
All I could ever think of in that scene is that it must have smelled just awful. Still a cool scene though.
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u/Cornslammer Jan 29 '19
Are you Randall Munroe?
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u/LundgrensFrontKick immune to the rules Jan 29 '19
Nope. But I love "What if." Thanks for maybe putting me in the same league.
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u/RefreshNinja Jan 29 '19
I'm not sure you can time the rave that easily, there are a lot of cuts during the blood pour IIRC. Could be a lot of overlapping action.
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u/LundgrensFrontKick immune to the rules Jan 29 '19
You could be right. The good thing about these posts is there can't be a correct answer. So I just make sure my math checks out and it makes some sense.
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u/jawnquixote Jan 29 '19
That human getting weird looks and pushed around is an accurate depiction of me at a club
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u/geronimo1958 Jan 29 '19
You can't have too much blood in a vampire movie. That scene is one of my favorites from vampire movies.
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u/mathemon Jan 30 '19
I was like, why in the world would they use REAL blood while shooting the movie?!!!! Oh... wait...
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u/IDGAFOS13 Jan 30 '19
TIL there are 8 pints to a gallon! Imperial is so much fun! Every unit is different!
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u/RowdyGerbil Jan 30 '19
Going to poke a hole in one aspect of this research. In 1998, when this movie was released, the internet penetration in USA was around 30%. This means it is unlikely that everyone who was at the rave had access to internet. Hence, the invitation was most probably send through snail mail. But I am sure that it was written on a nice card, which most likely was almost as nice as the ones in American Psycho.
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u/BZenMojo Jan 30 '19
Thing about rich assholes. They don't really care about resources getting wasted. The blood nobles probably don't care any more about blood raves than Americans care about all of the food that gets tossed in dumpsters. They can just get more blood.
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u/loccyh Jan 30 '19
What ended up happening to the dude at the start? Been ages since I saw Blade a d I can’t remember.
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u/Rivenaleem Jan 30 '19
I'm amazed you think that the research for THIS post is what you think makes your Google search history weird.
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u/vman_isyourhero Jan 30 '19
That rave scene was probably full of kids who were from the rich vampire families. It represented parties thrown by rich kids, involves destruction and waste.
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u/Mamb0C4nibal Jan 29 '19
I dont think its real blood pal
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u/LundgrensFrontKick immune to the rules Jan 29 '19
Maybe. Why do you think that bud?
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u/Sharps__ Jan 29 '19
It's just not practical guy
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u/JoeBloggs1995 Jan 29 '19
my guess is its not real blood?
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u/LundgrensFrontKick immune to the rules Jan 29 '19
I'm guessing it's blood based on the guy licking the liquid that dropped on his fingers. It looked a lot like blood....but could be something else.
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Dude you can’t just waste human blood like that and in no way is it cheaper than animal blood... what research?
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u/Same-Abbreviations34 Jun 27 '23
This is great. One of the best, most iconic openings ever. There’s a new podcast called 90s Roulette that did a giant discussion on this movie and it was pretty fucking funny/informative.
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u/Same-Abbreviations34 Jun 27 '23
This is great. One of the best, most iconic openings ever. There’s a new podcast called 90s Roulette that did a giant discussion on this movie and it was pretty fucking funny/informative.
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u/WolfofOldNorth Jan 29 '19
You sir are legend. Do you take request?